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1. 05:00 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:43 AM - Re: Rebuild SteveE (Phillips, Jack)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: SteveE broken fuze (Tim Willis)
4. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Jeff Boatright)
5. 06:48 AM - Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool (Tim Willis)
6. 06:52 AM - Even F-15's suffer from longeron breaks (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
7. 07:09 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (Tim Willis)
8. 10:11 AM - Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool (Matt Naiva)
9. 10:32 AM - Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
10. 10:33 AM - step stool ? Dig a hole (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
11. 10:33 AM - Gary Meadows (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
12. 11:48 AM - Re: Rebuild SteveE (Steve Eldredge)
13. 11:51 AM - Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! (Steve Eldredge)
14. 12:01 PM - Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool (Catdesigns)
15. 12:12 PM - Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! (Tim Willis)
16. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool (Bill Church)
17. 12:53 PM - Re: step stool ? Dig a hole (Michael Groah)
18. 12:53 PM - Re: step stool ? Dig a hole (Michael Groah)
19. 01:15 PM - Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
20. 01:40 PM - Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
21. 02:01 PM - Airfoil discussion (Don Emch)
22. 02:07 PM - Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! (Gary Gower)
23. 02:30 PM - Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! (Steve Eldredge)
24. 03:12 PM - Re: step stool ? Dig a hole (walt evans)
25. 03:15 PM - Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool (walt evans)
26. 06:21 PM - bits, bolts nusts,screws hardware stuff (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
27. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: wood struts (Steve Ruse)
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news |
Steve,
I know better than most the heartbreak of having to rebuild an airplane
you built with your own hands. The damage my Pietenpol sustained in the
forced landing it went through one month after its first flight was not
as extensive as yours, although I did have a cracked lower longeron to
deal with. It took me 8 months to repair the damage and I nearly had to
whip myself to make me go down in the basement to work on it. Building
an airplane is fun. Re-building it is no fun at all. However, once
done you will be glad you did it. I'll bet John Dilatush is sorry now
that he sold "Mountain Piet" after its crash. He couldn't bear the
thought of rebuilding it. Now I'll bet he wishes he had kept it and
rebuilt it.
Hang in there - you can do it, and as many have suggested, you can make
it better than before.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news
Steve,
I'll join the crying too. Once again the Piet structure pulled through
to protect the pilot. That's really great your brother was okay. Like
Graham said building a fuselage might not be a bad idea. The structure
itself does go together pretty quickly. The ambition can get kinda low
after something like that but I'll bet if you give it a little time the
desire will really burn to get it going again! You and your plane have
created it's own legend over the last several years!
I say go for it too!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Good to have you back on the list, Gary. Haven't heard much from you in
a long time.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Meadows
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rebuild SteveE
Hey Steve,
It's been a long time and I've only been back on the list for a few
weeks, so I saw your heartbreaking post about your Piet. I'm not sure
I'd have the gumption to rebuild after a serious crack-up, heck, I'm
having trouble getting through the initial build, but I agree with Mr.
Cuy (hey Mike!) and everyone else - I sure hope you do. You have a ton
of good reusable parts and I've heard that the second time through is
much easier with all those building smarts you have now. So if it were
up for vote, I'd cast my as an AYE in favor of the rebuild!
Hey everyone else out there in Piet-list land - it's been awhile, but
I'm back and building again and it's fun again. I took a break from
aviation for a few years there, but I'm back now. I guess I'll go back
out and make a ton of obnoxious metal screaming noises and try to finish
all those steel parts that seem so inconsequential when you look over
the plans, but yet to painful for me to actually finish!
Jack Phillips - I have the picture of your Piet in front of your hangar
as my wallpaper on my workstation at work. It's a beautiful plane and a
non-stop reminder to keep at it.
Mike Cuy - I STILL watch your video (VHS- and heck, you still look as
young there!!!) on my tv in the bedroom and it's STILL great and I'm
STILL married!! What a gal!!
Take care everyone and good luck Steve in whatever you choose to do.
Gary Meadows
Spring, TX
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| Subject: | SteveE broken fuze |
Steve,
If a complete short fuze would fit your plans, contact me on my email address.
Also proivide your phone number. Recognizing your heartbreak, I will give you
a good deal that I would not give anyone else. The fuze and I are a little
north of Austin.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
>Sent: Jan 14, 2008 6:58 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news
>
>
>Steve,
>
>I know better than most the heartbreak of having to rebuild an airplane
>you built with your own hands. The damage my Pietenpol sustained in the
>forced landing it went through one month after its first flight was not
>as extensive as yours, although I did have a cracked lower longeron to
>deal with. It took me 8 months to repair the damage and I nearly had to
>whip myself to make me go down in the basement to work on it. Building
>an airplane is fun. Re-building it is no fun at all. However, once
>done you will be glad you did it. I'll bet John Dilatush is sorry now
>that he sold "Mountain Piet" after its crash. He couldn't bear the
>thought of rebuilding it. Now I'll bet he wishes he had kept it and
>rebuilt it.
>
>Hang in there - you can do it, and as many have suggested, you can make
>it better than before.
>
>Jack Phillips
>NX899JP
>Raleigh, NC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:03 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news
>
>
>Steve,
>
>I'll join the crying too. Once again the Piet structure pulled through
>to protect the pilot. That's really great your brother was okay. Like
>Graham said building a fuselage might not be a bad idea. The structure
>itself does go together pretty quickly. The ambition can get kinda low
>after something like that but I'll bet if you give it a little time the
>desire will really burn to get it going again! You and your plane have
>created it's own legend over the last several years!
>
>I say go for it too!
>
>Don Emch
>NX899DE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news |
Steve,
I agree with Jack and others. It is no fun rebuilding - it's easy to
lose motivation. Part of the problem, for me anyway, is that it's not
always clear what an acceptable repair is or even how to most
efficiently and safely remove damaged pieces. Few people build wood
planes; even fewer rebuild them! However, we are nearing the finish
line with our rebuild, so it can be done!
My only advice (not that you asked) is to bone up on the FAA AC
43.13, the Bingelis books, and archives of this list before you start
cutting. We made more work for ourselves by not doing that.
Good luck,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool |
Walt,
I share your interest in getting into the plane without injury. In fact, I find
I am getting decrepit faster than I am finishing the plane. I've thought of
this stepstool, too, but like the idea fo permaqnanet steps outside the plane
better than anything that would be underfoot in the too-tight Piet cockpit.
In fact, I am planning two steps for the pilot on the port side of the craft, and
also having the center wing flipper connect to the first rib bay on the port
wing, so it flips as well. I am hoping thus that head, shoulders, knees, and
feet can all make it into the plane without dismemberment. I saw a pic of a
Piet with two steps, and I have the steel streamline tubing dedicated for two
steps. I still need some square steel tubing to go into it, for most of the
assembly's strength. That tubing will extend insdie the fuze and bolt down well
inside as a counter-lever to my great weight.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net>
>Sent: Jan 13, 2008 6:01 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool
>
>Now that we'uns in the North East are bracing for a So-Wester. And 10 to 12 inches
of snow is expected,,,Been thinking about flying in the spring.
>Saw Mike Cuy on the EAA flick, and got to thinking.
>
>Been getting harder and harder to do the high Kick to get into the Piet.
>Is there a foldable step stool around that would help in getting in, and could
be brought in with a cord to fly with me in the back seat?
>
>Thanks
>
>walt evans
>NX140DL
>
>"No one ever learned anything by talking"
>Ben Franklin
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| Subject: | Even F-15's suffer from longeron breaks |
Note to self: don't pull 8 g's if ever at the controls of an
F-15......or a Pietenpol.
http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/images/f-15_missouri_crash.wmv
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| Subject: | Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
Rick,
Actually, I believe we have one member who did a side-by side comparison. He changed
the wings from Piet to Riblett, made comparisons and then LATER changed
the engine to a more powerful radial. I don't recall his name, but think I have
the related notes on my other computer. I recall the builder was in "Piet
country"-- MN or WI, in my memory.
The results were a softer landing stall and 10 mph higher cruising speed, as I
recall, with no offsets in takeoff roll, climbrate, etc. There should have have
been better glide ratio and improved range, too.
This is about all you would expect from such a change, but surely enough to warrant
using the Riblett airfoil, unless you want "pure Piet." If you are a purist,
it's a sacrilege, and if not, it's an advantage. In my case, Corky built
some beautiful Piet ribs, and I will be using them. If he had not, I would likely
use the Riblett foil.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>Sent: Jan 9, 2008 10:25 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again)
>
>Actually Rick, my ribs are all built.
>And they're 100% Pietenpol FC10.
>The comparison was done purely out of curiosity, to see how the two
>compared.
>
>I think the only way to do a real comparison of the two airfoils, as
>applied to the Air Camper, would be to build a complete plane with the
>traditional Pietenpol airfoil, and fly it, and record the performance
>data, and then remove the Pietenpol wing, and replace it with a wing
>built with the Riblett airfoil (without making any other changes to the
>airplane), and repeat the process. Only then would one get a real
>"apples to apples" comparison of how the airfoil affects performance of
>this plane.My plan for the time being is to proceed with the first part
>of the comparison - that is, build a complete plane with the traditional
>Pietenpol airfoil. My gut feeling is that the Riblett airfoil probably
>would give some performance improvements, but nothing near some of the
>claims I have heard (someone I overheard at Brodhead said the Riblett
>airfoil would double the cruise speed, cut takeoff distance in half AND
>lower the stall speed - somehow I don't think it will do that.).
>
>
>Bill C
>
>
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| Subject: | Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool |
Walt,
You may want to experiment with the stability of some of the shorter tripod
campstools. The stool would also come in handy when Aircamping on a
riverbed when you cook up the morning catch.
Regards,
Matt
examples from $6 to $109
http://amplestuff.safeshopper.com/217/cat217.htm
http://sportsdirection.stores.yahoo.net/sportsseat.html
http://www.nextag.com/tripod-stool/search-html
*07:03:22 PM PST US* *From: * *"walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>* *Subject:
* *Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool*
Now that we'uns in the North East are bracing for a So-Wester. And 10
to
12 inches of snow is expected,,,Been thinking about flying in the
spring.
Saw Mike Cuy on the EAA flick, and got to thinking.
Been getting harder and harder to do the high Kick to get into the
Piet.
Is there a foldable step stool around that would help in getting in,
and
could be brought in with a cord to fly with me in the back seat?
Thanks
walt evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool |
Check out West Marine.....they have a good selection of various types of ladders
and steps you could attach to the plane and fold up! They do have a unique aluminum
step you attach to the side of the boat and you simply lift it up and
fold it over.....
Matt Naiva <corvaircoupe@gmail.com> wrote: Walt,
You may want to experiment with the stability of some of the shorter tripod campstools.
The stool would also come in handy when Aircamping on a riverbed when
you cook up the morning catch.
Regards,
Matt
examples from $6 to $109
http://amplestuff.safeshopper.com/217/cat217.htm
http://sportsdirection.stores.yahoo.net/sportsseat.html
http://www.nextag.com/tripod-stool/search-html
07:03:22 PM PST US From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Subject: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool
Now that we'uns in the North East are bracing for a So-Wester. And 10 to
12 inches of snow is expected,,,Been thinking about flying in the
spring.
Saw Mike Cuy on the EAA flick, and got to thinking.
Been getting harder and harder to do the high Kick to get into the Piet.
Is there a foldable step stool around that would help in getting in, and
could be brought in with a cord to fly with me in the back seat?
Thanks
walt evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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| Subject: | step stool ? Dig a hole |
Walt,
I say dig a hole for your tailwheel to rest in while you start the
engine and then get inside. Your longerons will be that much closer
to mother earth.
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GREAT to see you back on the list Gary ! I'll catch-up with you
offline once the whips and chains here stop flailing about. Big
project, short leash.
Last I talked with Gary he had his fuselage and tailfeathers done and
his son was just learning how to drive so who knows where he's at these
days but I'm glad
you kept your project and are back on it. Never too late to continue
building. Glad your VHS tape still works. Your warranty expired
years ago on that thing:)
Mike C.
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Thanks for all the encouragement to rebuild! A rebuild will happen for sur
e. Andrew (my brother) has just joined the list, and he is the one who had
the run-in with terra-firma. He and the piet are near Tucson AZ. The pl
an right now is to see if we can get any remuneration from the driver who c
ontributed to the runway incursion. Andrew will then rebuilt two-niner-ro
meo. I'll probably visit during the rebuild. I've got other projects on
the burner right now, including a 1931 Model A Town Sedan, and the top wing
s to a Marquart Charger biplane. The biplane may fill my low and slow desi
res for a while... Day dreaming of a new, larger, pietnepol.... 150 hp L
OM perhaps?
Dunno,
Steve E.
PS Welcome back Gary!!
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips, Jack
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:42 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rebuild SteveE
Good to have you back on the list, Gary. Haven't heard much from you in a
long time.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Meadows
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rebuild SteveE
Hey Steve,
It's been a long time and I've only been back on the list for a few weeks,
so I saw your heartbreaking post about your Piet. I'm not sure I'd have th
e gumption to rebuild after a serious crack-up, heck, I'm having trouble ge
tting through the initial build, but I agree with Mr. Cuy (hey Mike!) and e
veryone else - I sure hope you do. You have a ton of good reusable parts an
d I've heard that the second time through is much easier with all those bui
lding smarts you have now. So if it were up for vote, I'd cast my as an AYE
in favor of the rebuild!
Hey everyone else out there in Piet-list land - it's been awhile, but I'm
back and building again and it's fun again. I took a break from aviation fo
r a few years there, but I'm back now. I guess I'll go back out and make a
ton of obnoxious metal screaming noises and try to finish all those steel p
arts that seem so inconsequential when you look over the plans, but yet to
painful for me to actually finish!
Jack Phillips - I have the picture of your Piet in front of your hangar as
my wallpaper on my workstation at work. It's a beautiful plane and a non-s
top reminder to keep at it.
Mike Cuy - I STILL watch your video (VHS- and heck, you still look as youn
g there!!!) on my tv in the bedroom and it's STILL great and I'm STILL marr
ied!! What a gal!!
Take care everyone and good luck Steve in whatever you choose to do.
Gary Meadows
Spring, TX
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| Subject: | Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! |
That's right, in 1999 we celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Piet. Tha
t makes 2009 the 80th Anniversary of this great design!
Brodhead is bound to be the gathering place. It would be awesome to see 30
or more together. In 99' we had 22 or 23 if I remember right. The mass f
lyin to OSH was a sight to behold!
We are just a short 18 months away!
Steve E
Steve E
Low and Slow Since 1929
Pietenpol Aircamper
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| Subject: | Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool |
Stools are to modern. What you need is a stirrup hung off the top longeron.
Chris
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WestCoastPiet.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158075#158075
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| Subject: | Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! |
I am planning to make 2009 at Brodhead-- to hell with OSH.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Eldredge <steve@byu.edu>
>Sent: Jan 14, 2008 1:50 PM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary!
>
>That's right, in 1999 we celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Piet. That makes
2009 the 80th Anniversary of this great design!
>
>Brodhead is bound to be the gathering place. It would be awesome to see 30 or
more together. In 99' we had 22 or 23 if I remember right. The mass flyin to
OSH was a sight to behold!
>
>We are just a short 18 months away!
>
>Steve E
>
>Steve E
>Low and Slow Since 1929
>Pietenpol Aircamper
>steve@byu.edu<mailto:steve@byu.edu>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step |
stool
Actually, stools might not be too modern for the Piet. I believe they
were invented in the early 1920's, and were sold door-to-door.
The salesmen would travel around from town to town carrying with them
their ...(wait for it) ... Stool samples. (Groan)
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Stools are to modern. What you need is a stirrup hung off the top
longeron.
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| Subject: | Re: step stool ? Dig a hole |
and you can take the dirt from the hole and mound it up next to the plane as a
step.
Goot
"Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
Walt,
I say dig a hole for your tailwheel to rest in while you start the engine and
then get inside. Your longerons will be that much closer
to mother earth.
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and you can take the dirt from the hole and mound it up next to the plane as a
step.
Good
"Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
Walt,
I say dig a hole for your tailwheel to rest in while you start the engine and
then get inside. Your longerons will be that much closer
to mother earth.
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| Subject: | Re: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary! |
I hear you on that one....Say Tim..... ever design a "Wide Body" Pietenpol logo
yet? I am working on one for the groups approval!
Ken H
Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
I am planning to make 2009 at Brodhead-- to hell with OSH.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Eldredge
>Sent: Jan 14, 2008 1:50 PM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary!
>
>That's right, in 1999 we celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Piet. That makes
2009 the 80th Anniversary of this great design!
>
>Brodhead is bound to be the gathering place. It would be awesome to see 30 or
more together. In 99' we had 22 or 23 if I remember right. The mass flyin to OSH
was a sight to behold!
>
>We are just a short 18 months away!
>
>Steve E
>
>Steve E
>Low and Slow Since 1929
>Pietenpol Aircamper
>steve@byu.edu
>
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Ken,
That's Great, I am building the wide body which makes me really interested
in seeing what you come up with.
John Recine
In a message dated 1/14/2008 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kmheidecpo@yahoo.com writes:
I hear you on that one....Say Tim..... ever design a "Wide Body" Pietenpol
logo yet? I am working on one for the groups approval!
Ken H
Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim Willis
I am planning to make 2009 at Brodhead-- to hell with OSH.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Eldredge
>Sent: Jan 14, 2008 1:50 PM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary!
>
>That's right, in 1999 we celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Piet. That
makes 2009 the 80th Anniversary of this great design!
>
>Brodhead is bound to be the gathering place. It
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| Subject: | Airfoil discussion |
With the airfoil discussion coming alive again, it got me thinking. If someone
can sell me an airfoil that would make my Piet takeoff and land like this then
I think I would leave my Pietenpol Purism and build a new wing! Can you believe
this guy!?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6XYFcw1c-Oo
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Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158108#158108
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Hello Steve,
I realy hope that 18 months will be enough time for you two, to rebuilt your
great airplane... With the international fame of your airplane, you deserve
to be there.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
Steve Eldredge <steve@byu.edu> wrote:
Thats right, in 1999 we celebrated the 70th anniversary of the
Piet. That makes 2009 the 80th Anniversary of this great design!
Brodhead is bound to be the gathering place. It would be awesome to see 30 or
more together. In 99 we had 22 or 23 if I remember right. The mass flyin to
OSH was a sight to behold!
We are just a short 18 months away!
Steve E
Steve E
Low and Slow Since 1929
Pietenpol Aircamper
steve@byu.edu
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Gary,
You give me too much credit... Frank Pavlig's Sky Gypsy, Mike Cuy's Award
winning Pietenpol, Don Emch, G-BUCO, Bill Rewey... These are world famous
Pietenpols!
Best regards,
Steve E.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Gower
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Guess what?! 80th Anniversary!
Hello Steve,
I realy hope that 18 months will be enough time for you two, to rebuilt y
our great airplane... With the international fame of your airplane, you de
serve to be there.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
Steve Eldredge <steve@byu.edu> wrote:
That's right, in 1999 we celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Piet. Tha
t makes 2009 the 80th Anniversary of this great design!
Brodhead is bound to be the gathering place. It would be awesome to see 30
or more together. In 99' we had 22 or 23 if I remember right. The mass f
lyin to OSH was a sight to behold!
We are just a short 18 months away!
Steve E
Steve E
Low and Slow Since 1929
Pietenpol Aircamper
steve@byu.edu<mailto:steve@byu.edu>
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| Subject: | Re: step stool ? Dig a hole |
Mike,
Good idea, but if I go to a strange airport, they won't have a hole.
Thought more about getting these.
Not sure if I can modify them for a rudder bar, tho.
At a fly-in, guess I'd have to pack more comfortable shoes
walt evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: step stool ? Dig a hole
Walt,
I say dig a hole for your tailwheel to rest in while you start the
engine and then get inside. Your longerons will be that much closer
to mother earth.
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| Subject: | Re: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool |
Matt,
Thanks, The plastic one from China looks good at first glance.
I'll check them out
walt evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
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From: Matt Naiva
To: waltdak@verizon.net
Cc: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool
Walt,
You may want to experiment with the stability of some of the shorter
tripod campstools. The stool would also come in handy when Aircamping
on a riverbed when you cook up the morning catch.
Regards,
Matt
examples from $6 to $109
http://amplestuff.safeshopper.com/217/cat217.htm
http://sportsdirection.stores.yahoo.net/sportsseat.html
http://www.nextag.com/tripod-stool/search-html
07:03:22 PM PST US From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Subject: Calling on all you creative minds,,,need a step stool
Now that we'uns in the North East are bracing for a So-Wester.
And 10 to
12 inches of snow is expected,,,Been thinking about flying in
the
spring.
Saw Mike Cuy on the EAA flick, and got to thinking.
Been getting harder and harder to do the high Kick to get into
the Piet.
Is there a foldable step stool around that would help in getting
in, and
could be brought in with a cord to fly with me in the back seat?
Thanks
walt evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
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| Subject: | bits, bolts nusts,screws hardware stuff |
I am getting ready to begin my quest for fasteners, rather than buy too many
or too few of the wrong sizes , is there anyone out there that can give me
starting point to begin collecting those hardware elements basic to the
construction of the long fuse/wide body Piet? Not that wide body has much to do
with it, Any suggestions regarding sizes lengths types of nuts bolts washers nut
plates screw, all out fasteners and hinges in basic quantity would really be
of great help.
bill of materials for hardware best sources etc right now down to the nut
and bolt count accuracy is not as important as sizing
Thanks for your help
John Recine
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Jim (Veazey),
I'm in Norman, OK, just a few miles from you. My GN-1 is in
Slaughterville, just a few miles south. Are you currently building? We
should get together sometime.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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----- Original Message -----
From: jbveazey.7ok@netzero.net
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood struts
Harrah is 20 miles east from Oklahoma City
Jim Veazey
Harrah, OK
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