---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/15/08: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:31 AM - Re: Re: wood struts (jbveazey.7ok@netzero.net) 2. 04:09 AM - Re: step stool ? Dig a hole () 3. 05:03 AM - heels (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 4. 06:04 AM - Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan (jimd) 5. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan (Phillips, Jack) 6. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: CONTACT! Magazine, Pietenpol Issue/Don Emch (BScott116@aol.com) 7. 07:06 AM - stepping into a hole/valve covers (Oscar Zuniga) 8. 07:41 AM - Re: CONTACT! Magazine, Pietenpol Issue/Don Emch (jimd) 9. 08:10 AM - Re: stepping into a hole/valve covers (Phillips, Jack) 10. 08:53 AM - Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan (jimd) 11. 10:12 AM - Re: stepping into a hole/valve covers (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) 12. 10:48 AM - Re: stepping into a hole/valve covers (Phillips, Jack) 13. 11:31 AM - BHP site up and nice now (jimd) 14. 01:17 PM - airworthiness certificate and first flight (RBush96589@aol.com) 15. 01:24 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 16. 01:26 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (Phillips, Jack) 17. 01:30 PM - Re: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG) 18. 01:33 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 19. 01:34 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (HelsperSew@aol.com) 20. 04:06 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (Gene & Tammy) 21. 04:12 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (Arden Adamson) 22. 04:13 PM - carb and prop (RBush96589@aol.com) 23. 05:40 PM - chiselling floor brace (Marc Dumay) 24. 05:53 PM - Re: airworthiness certificate and first flight (Skip Gadd) 25. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: wood struts (Steve Ruse) 26. 06:34 PM - BHP site up and nice now (Oscar Zuniga) 27. 06:51 PM - Re: chiselling floor brace (walt evans) 28. 07:05 PM - Re: chiselling floor brace () 29. 08:56 PM - chiselling floor brace (Marc Dumay) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:52 AM PST US From: "jbveazey.7ok@netzero.net" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood struts Steve, Was that your GN-1 at Thompson airport about 2 months ago? I'm not build ing anything right now. I hope to one of there days. Did you build your GN-1? As best I remember it was a nice looking plane. I just sold my Cessna 152 in October. I got a private license in it. I'm retired and planeless. I'm a member of chapters 98 and 1098 in Tuttle and Shawnee. Maybe I'll see you there .. Jim Veazey Harrah, OK _____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4t0DXAw7oXawrygOaPR Uh3xBPlG3DhicIy4sQjIPrw3Phd22/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:41 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: step stool ? Dig a hole From: Man,would you look sweet in those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt evans Sent: January 14, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: step stool ? Dig a hole Mike, Good idea, but if I go to a strange airport, they won't have a hole. Thought more about getting these. Not sure if I can modify them for a rudder bar, tho. At a fly-in, guess I'd have to pack more comfortable shoes walt evans NX140DL "No one ever learned anything by talking" Ben Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: step stool ? Dig a hole Walt, I say dig a hole for your tailwheel to rest in while you start the engine and then get inside. Your longerons will be that much closer to mother earth. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat r onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: heels From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" That was hilarious, Walt ! At least you wouldn't get bothered much by anybody ever wearing those.....but very stylish. Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan From: "jimd" Gene, I checked out Ron W's website with the Fly Baby windshield info a while back. Not sure if that was what you were referring to, as a search on "fly baby windshield" doesn't return any hits and with no quotes, it returns about 30 thousand. Anyway he suggest a faceted Lexan windshield. I have .040 aluminum, and Plexiglas in large quantities.. thats pretty heavy to try to form into a frame by bending, so I would be in to making inside/outside pieces, bonding/riveting.. etc, pretty complex compared to getting a single piece of Plexiglas cut and shaped and mounting it with simple aluminum fittings. The Pietenpol Aerial at the St. Louis air museum has exactly the type of faceted windshield suggested, and my second choice way of doing the windshield would be to go study it and get measurements/construction details and do it that way. What I would love to do, but think is too complex/heavy/time consuming, would be to make up a PT-26 style sliding canopy, then add cabin heat and gain a few more months of flying time a year. Thought about it till I looked at where the supports and cables for the center section of the wing run. It would be really tricky to make slides and canopy sections that could work around all the stuff in the way. So, I want to keep it simple. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158266#158266 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:28 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan From: "Phillips, Jack" I made my faceted windshields per the Fly Baby plans, using 1/8" Plexiglas and .025" 3003 Aluminum. Fairly lightweight, but probably the most difficult part of the whole project. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimd Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan Gene, I checked out Ron W's website with the Fly Baby windshield info a while back. Not sure if that was what you were referring to, as a search on "fly baby windshield" doesn't return any hits and with no quotes, it returns about 30 thousand. Anyway he suggest a faceted Lexan windshield. I have .040 aluminum, and Plexiglas in large quantities.. thats pretty heavy to try to form into a frame by bending, so I would be in to making inside/outside pieces, bonding/riveting.. etc, pretty complex compared to getting a single piece of Plexiglas cut and shaped and mounting it with simple aluminum fittings. The Pietenpol Aerial at the St. Louis air museum has exactly the type of faceted windshield suggested, and my second choice way of doing the windshield would be to go study it and get measurements/construction details and do it that way. What I would love to do, but think is too complex/heavy/time consuming, would be to make up a PT-26 style sliding canopy, then add cabin heat and gain a few more months of flying time a year. Thought about it till I looked at where the supports and cables for the center section of the wing run. It would be really tricky to make slides and canopy sections that could work around all the stuff in the way. So, I want to keep it simple. Jim _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:21 AM PST US From: BScott116@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: CONTACT! Magazine, Pietenpol Issue/Don Emch I would contribute to your issue. What's really interesting to me and others maybe, is the radial Lambert engine I am assembbling for my Piet project. 90 HP , 5cyld antique. Have all parts plus spares. Expect to run this summer . Just the engine variations alone should fill your issue. brent Scott in Missouri **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:55 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers Walt wrote- >Good idea, but if I go to a strange airport, they won't have a hole. No problem. Before you leave your home field, just roll up the hole and ta ke it with you in the airplane ;o) And I see Gary Gower posted to the list... I thought you had fallen off the face of the earth, Gary! How about those cast "Air Camper" valve covers f or the Corvair? Any luck making some new molds?Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: CONTACT! Magazine, Pietenpol Issue/Don Emch From: "jimd" Brent scott in Missouri.. where in Missouri? I am in independence? Jim (GN1 Biplane project) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158293#158293 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:54 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers From: "Phillips, Jack" I ran across a set of Corvair heads with the Air Camper logo when I did my Technical Counselor thing and inspected a Zenith 601 project last week. They are planning to use different heads on their Corvair and just had these Air Camper heads sitting around. If anyone is interested, I can put them in contact with the owners and see if they are available for sale or for free. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers Walt wrote- >Good idea, but if I go to a strange airport, they won't have a hole. No problem. Before you leave your home field, just roll up the hole and take it with you in the airplane ;o) And I see Gary Gower posted to the list... I thought you had fallen off the face of the earth, Gary! How about those cast "Air Camper" valve covers for the Corvair? Any luck making some new molds? Oscar Zuniga _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan From: "jimd" Jack, I don't doubt it was hard. Took aircraft sheet metal classes 28 yrs ago and learned to rivet and work with aluminum.. but haven't' done it since, and don't want to make things harder. I feel like a simple couple of windshields will suffice. Even thought about buying speed boat ones and using them, but they looked to modern. (www.greatlakesskipper.com) has a bunch, mounting hardware too. Have enough to do, need to learn how to do fabric work, then cover upper and lower wings (biplane) and 4 ailerons. Need to get a 1950's Spanish engine running (found a 130meg electronic copy of its manuals) of course they are in Spanish, and I don't know it. Have to figure out how to make a graceful hood bump to cover the magneto's poking up through my cowling. Finish plumbing the engine, fabricate two more exhaust stacks. Cut and reroute some 4130 tubing so my legs will fit more comfortably. Make and install windshields. Assemble everything, figure out how to rig it and if I have all the stuff. (No notes, just bucket full of fittings and cables.. ) Starting to understand that 90% done/90% to go thing. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158306#158306 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:15 AM PST US From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers Jack, I would certainly be interested in the valve covers..... Ken H "Phillips, Jack" wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I ran across a set of Corvair heads with the Air Camper logo when I did my Technical Counselor thing and inspected a Zenith 601 project last week. They are planning to use different heads on their Corvair and just had these Air Camper heads sitting around. If anyone is interested, I can put them in contact with the owners and see if they are available for sale or for free. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC --------------------------------- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers Walt wrote- >Good idea, but if I go to a strange airport, they won't have a hole. No problem. Before you leave your home field, just roll up the hole and take it with you in the airplane ;o) And I see Gary Gower posted to the list... I thought you had fallen off the face of the earth, Gary! How about those cast "Air Camper" valve covers for the Corvair? Any luck making some new molds? Oscar Zuniga Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:53 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers From: "Phillips, Jack" I have contacted the builders of the Zenith 601 and told them that Air Camper valve covers are a hot item on the Pietenpol list. They are going to let me know if they are interested in selling them, and I will post their interest to the group. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers Jack, I would certainly be interested in the valve covers..... Ken H "Phillips, Jack" wrote: I ran across a set of Corvair heads with the Air Camper logo when I did my Technical Counselor thing and inspected a Zenith 601 project last week. They are planning to use different heads on their Corvair and just had these Air Camper heads sitting around. If anyone is interested, I can put them in contact with the owners and see if they are available for sale or for free. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:06 AM To: Pietenpol List Subject: Pietenpol-List: stepping into a hole/valve covers Walt wrote- >Good idea, but if I go to a strange airport, they won't have a hole. No problem. Before you leave your home field, just roll up the hole and take it with you in the _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: BHP site up and nice now From: "jimd" http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/ Looks sharp. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158351#158351 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:38 PM PST US From: RBush96589@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight hello every one, NX294RB now has an airworthiness certificate and a first flight.every thing went great just a little heavy on the right wing .came back in adjusted the struts a couple of turns and its gone,the corvair really does great.ground run on grass of about 400 feet and it is up and climbing.to all you guys out there building keep after it ,it took me seven years and four months ,but was all worth it! Robert (Randy) Bush NX294RB Lexington TN **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:23 PM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight Congratulations! Well done! **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:26:24 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight From: "Phillips, Jack" Way to go Randy! Great feeling, isn't it? Are you still grinning? Now fly off the hours so we can meet in Jackson and fly to Brodhead together this summer. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RBush96589@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight hello every one, NX294RB now has an airworthiness certificate and a first flight.every thing went great just a little heavy on the right wing .came back in adjusted the struts a couple of turns and its gone,the corvair really does great.ground run on grass of about 400 feet and it is up and climbing.to all you guys out there building keep after it ,it took me seven years and four months ,but was all worth it! Robert (Randy) Bush NX294RB Lexington TN _____ Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:21 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan Just a thot. Perhaps a Motorcycle windshield like those used on Harleys? Steve Dortch ----- Original Message ----- From: jimd Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Forming Plexiglass and Lexan > > Jack, > > I don't doubt it was hard. Took aircraft sheet metal classes 28 > yrs ago and learned to rivet and work with aluminum.. but haven't' > done it since, and don't want to make things harder. I feel like a > simple couple of windshields will suffice. Even thought about > buying speed boat ones and using them, but they looked to modern. > (www.greatlakesskipper.com) has a bunch, mounting hardware too. > > Have enough to do, need to learn how to do fabric work, then cover > upper and lower wings (biplane) and 4 ailerons. Need to get a > 1950's Spanish engine running (found a 130meg electronic copy of > its manuals) of course they are in Spanish, and I don't know it. > > Have to figure out how to make a graceful hood bump to cover the > magneto's poking up through my cowling. Finish plumbing the > engine, fabricate two more exhaust stacks. Cut and reroute some > 4130 tubing so my legs will fit more comfortably. Make and install > windshields. Assemble everything, figure out how to rig it and if > I have all the stuff. (No notes, just bucket full of fittings and > cables.. ) > > Starting to understand that 90% done/90% to go thing. > > Jim > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158306#158306 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:16 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight Robert, Congratulations on getting it done an inspiration to all us us that are still building. I am looking forward to seeing it at Broadhead this year Great job! John Recine In a message dated 1/15/2008 4:19:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, RBush96589@aol.com writes: hello every one, NX294RB now has an airworthiness certificate and a first flight.every thing went great just a little heavy on the right wing .came back in adjusted the struts a couple of turns and its gone,the corvair really does great.ground run on grass of about 400 feet and it is up and climbing.to all you guys out there building keep after it ,it took me seven years and four months ,but was all worth it! Robert (Randy) Bush NX294RB Lexington TN ____________________________________ Start the year off right. _Easy ways to stay in shape_ (http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489) in the new year. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:54 PM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight Randy, Good for you!!! The end of a loooooooong road. Congratulations! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:02 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight Congratulations Randy!! As soon as the weather improves and we both have the time off I'll fly down. Today would have been a great flying day but I spent it at work. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: RBush96589@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight hello every one, NX294RB now has an airworthiness certificate and a first flight.every thing went great just a little heavy on the right wing .came back in adjusted the struts a couple of turns and its gone,the corvair really does great.ground run on grass of about 400 feet and it is up and climbing.to all you guys out there building keep after it ,it took me seven years and four months ,but was all worth it! Robert (Randy) Bush NX294RB Lexington TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 1/11/2008 10:19 AM ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:39 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight From: "Arden Adamson" Congratulations Randy, That's great!! Enjoy!! It is motivating to hear your enthusiasm. The rest of us will keep building. Arden Adamson Waupaca, WI ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of RBush96589@aol.com Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 3:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight hello every one, NX294RB now has an airworthiness certificate and a first flight.every thing went great just a little heavy on the right wing .came back in adjusted the struts a couple of turns and its gone,the corvair really does great.ground run on grass of about 400 feet and it is up and climbing.to all you guys out there building keep after it ,it took me seven years and four months ,but was all worth it! Robert (Randy) Bush NX294RB Lexington TN ________________________________ Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:03 PM PST US From: RBush96589@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: carb and prop Hi Dan, The prop was made by TN propellers and is a 64-34 pitch.carb is a marvel schebler ma3spa.static 2700 rpm,about the same on take off,2300 rpm cruise shows close to 80 mph. I will have to check the air speed indicator by GPS to see how accurate this is ,but I think it is pretty close. Randy Bush **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:30 PM PST US From: "Marc Dumay" Subject: Pietenpol-List: chiselling floor brace Fellow Piet Builders and mentors We are starting to glue in the braces between our fuselage sides and have noticed, in many build photos, that other builders have chiselled away the first front brace. Both ends, where they meet the longeron. What is the purpose of doing this? captmarcus@sympatico.ca ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:53:44 PM PST US From: "Skip Gadd" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight Congratulations, Randy, so this year maybe it will be a 3 wheeler instead of an 18 wheeler! Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 1/15/2008 4:23:07 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: airworthiness certificate and first flight hello every one, NX294RB now has an airworthiness certificate and a first flight.every thing went great just a little heavy on the right wing .came back in adjusted the struts a couple of turns and its gone,the corvair really does great.ground run on grass of about 400 feet and it is up and climbing.to all you guys out there building keep after it ,it took me seven years and four months ,but was all worth it! Robert (Randy) Bush NX294RB Lexington TN Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:46 PM PST US From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood struts Jim, That was me in the yellow GN-1 at Thompson. I didn't build my GN-1...just bought it. I would love to build one eventually though. We'll see you around. Steve Ruse ----- Original Message ----- From: jbveazey.7ok@netzero.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:27 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood struts Steve, Was that your GN-1 at Thompson airport about 2 months ago? I'm not building anything right now. I hope to one of there days. Did you build your GN-1? As best I remember it was a nice looking plane. I just sold my Cessna 152 in October. I got a private license in it. I'm retired and planeless. I'm a member of chapters 98 and 1098 in Tuttle and Shawnee. Maybe I'll see you there. Jim Veazey Harrah, OK _____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:24 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: BHP site up and nice now Welllll... it's nicer, perhaps, but still pretty much as it was a few years ago when I bought my plans and manual from Pietenpol. Still shows "Buckey e Pietenpol Association" links in the "What's New" page, Charlie Rubeck rib s, things like that. But still the ONLY place to get authentic Pietenpol family plans and manual s!Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http:/ /www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:08 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: chiselling floor brace Fellow Piet Builders and mentorsMarc, I know it's in the original plans. I'd have to go back and see exactly why. Think it's got something to do with the inside brackets lining up with the landing gear brackets on the outside. Where the ash beams go across, is where the landing gear loads are taken in the side of the fuse. walt evans NX140DL "No one ever learned anything by talking" Ben Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Dumay To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:37 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: chiselling floor brace Fellow Piet Builders and mentors We are starting to glue in the braces between our fuselage sides and have noticed, in many build photos, that other builders have chiselled away the first front brace. Both ends, where they meet the longeron. What is the purpose of doing this? captmarcus@sympatico.ca ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:26 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: chiselling floor brace Fellow Piet Builders and mentorsWell, seeing as that is my picture you have attached I guess I should explain why I tapered the ends. Drawing No 1 drawing entitled "Bottom Plan View of Fuselage", shows the two ash cross braceses as 3/4-inch by 2-inch white ash. However, Drawing No 3 "Bottom of Fuselage" shows the front to be 2-inch by 1-inch white ash inside cross strut taper to 2-inch by 3/4-inch at end. This is also shown on the "Sectional View of Left Front Fitting"". At first I installed the ash cross brace as a 1-inch thick piece and later discovered it was supposed to taper on the ends. I had to do it after I glued it in but it wasn't to hard. It helps to have the ends taper so the inner fitting will line up with the outer gear fitting. Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Dumay To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: chiselling floor brace Fellow Piet Builders and mentors We are starting to glue in the braces between our fuselage sides and have noticed, in many build photos, that other builders have chiselled away the first front brace. Both ends, where they meet the longeron. What is the purpose of doing this? captmarcus@sympatico.ca ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:35 PM PST US From: "Marc Dumay" Subject: Pietenpol-List: chiselling floor brace Fellow Piet Builders and mentors We are starting to glue in the braces between our fuselage sides and have noticed, in many build photos, that other builders have chiselled away the first front brace. Both ends, where they meet the longeron. What is the purpose of doing this? captmarcus@sympatico.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.