---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/17/08: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: windscreens (Phillips, Jack) 2. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: CONTACT! Magazine, Pietenpol Issue/Don Emch (BScott116@aol.com) 3. 09:21 AM - (Brian Kraut) 4. 12:54 PM - new source for Corvair parts? (Oscar Zuniga) 5. 01:14 PM - Re: new source for Corvair parts? (Tim Willis) 6. 02:27 PM - Re: new source for Corvair parts? (Bill Church) 7. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: windscreens (walt evans) 8. 03:21 PM - FAA waivers = EAA refusal to support chapter events (Mike Whaley) 9. 04:40 PM - first flight (RBush96589@aol.com) 10. 04:43 PM - Re: aircamper project (jmccarth) 11. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: aircamper project (Tim Willis) 12. 07:22 PM - Re: aircamper project (jmccarth) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens From: "Phillips, Jack" As I recall (this was about 5 years ago) it took me a couple of weeks of work so maybe a total of 20-25 hours? I've attached another couple of photos of the plane so you can see the finished product, as well as a couple of pictures of a Stearman's windshield. You can tell I was copying it wherever I could. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimd Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens Jack, Those look great, now I am starting to consider going with faceted windshields.. looks like a lot of work. Still might try the simple one first.. How much time you think you will end up having spent building those? Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158616#158616 _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:02 AM PST US From: BScott116@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: CONTACT! Magazine, Pietenpol Issue/Don Emch Jefferson City area. 12 miles north Brent Scott-573 999 4120 **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:22 AM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just got this message on the KR list. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Pramod Kotwal Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: KR> New company Aerovair for Corvair parts for experimental aircraft I have started a new company Aerovair to manufacture and sell innovative new products and kits for Corvair engines. Details are on my web site www.aerovair.com. This business is separate from Nitron, Inc. specializing in ion nitriding. For more info etc. contact me off list at info@aerovair.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:54 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: new source for Corvair parts? Pramod posted- >New company Aerovair for Corvair parts for experimental aircraft >I have started a new company Aerovair to manufacture and sell innovative new >products and kits for Corvair engines. >Details are on my web site www.aerovair.com. >This business is separate from Nitron, Inc. specializing in ion nitriding. A visit to the website shows that he will be flight testing the products on his Zenith, tail number N1777W. If memory serves me correctly, William Wynne's Pietenpol was tail number N1777W... I guess since the Piet was destroyed the airplane went off the registry and that number was available, but to me using that tail number is almost like marrying your sister-in-law after your brother dies ;o) Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:16 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: new source for Corvair parts? At first I thought that this biz was going to compete with WW. Now it seems to me that his product line is doing things that WW is not doing. I see that he was nitriding Corvair cranks before. I wonder if he has been the fellow nitriding for WW. I guess we will find out more. Oscar, you are right about the tail number seeming strange. Maybe they are great pals. His product line is neither mainstream nor cheap. The cast iron liner/Al. cylinder is an interesting combo. I know that has workded quite well in some water-cooled autos, lessening weight and still giving iron cylinders. Iron cylinder walls are superior in lubricocity to steel walls, and are softer, wearing out rings more slowly. Is this iron/Al. combo common in aircraft? I did not think so. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga >Sent: Jan 17, 2008 2:51 PM >To: corvaircraft@mylist.net, krnet@mylist.net, Pietenpol List >Subject: Pietenpol-List: new source for Corvair parts? > > > >Pramod posted- > >>New company Aerovair for Corvair parts for experimental aircraft >>I have started a new company Aerovair to manufacture and sell innovative new >>products and kits for Corvair engines. >>Details are on my web site www.aerovair.com. >>This business is separate from Nitron, Inc. specializing in ion nitriding. > >A visit to the website shows that he will be flight testing the products on his Zenith, tail number N1777W. If memory serves me correctly, William Wynne's Pietenpol was tail number N1777W... I guess since the Piet was destroyed the airplane went off the registry and that number was available, but to me using that tail number is almost like marrying your sister-in-law after your brother dies ;o) > >Oscar Zuniga >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:20 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: new source for Corvair parts? From: "Bill Church" Nitron was the company that William Wynne was recommending for nitriding cranks. Pramod was the contact at Nitron. N1777W was the tail number for WW's Piet. He kept the number and used it for his Zenair 601. Last summer William mentioned on his website that he was thinking about selling his 601, so that he could have the space to possibly build a new plane. Looks like Pramod bought WW's 601 (maybe without an engine). So, Oscar, maybe it's more like marrying your friend's second wife, that he divorced after the first wife died. -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga >almost like marrying your sister-in-law after your brother dies ;o) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:51 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens Jack, That's one beautiful picture of yours and Mike Cuy's on the tarmac walt evans NX140DL "No one ever learned anything by talking" Ben Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillips, Jack" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens As I recall (this was about 5 years ago) it took me a couple of weeks of work so maybe a total of 20-25 hours? I've attached another couple of photos of the plane so you can see the finished product, as well as a couple of pictures of a Stearman's windshield. You can tell I was copying it wherever I could. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimd Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens Jack, Those look great, now I am starting to consider going with faceted windshields.. looks like a lot of work. Still might try the simple one first.. How much time you think you will end up having spent building those? Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158616#158616 _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:19 PM PST US From: "Mike Whaley" Subject: Pietenpol-List: FAA waivers = EAA refusal to support chapter events I figured that it would interest many of my friends... My local EAA chapter is organizing a rather large "aviation day" type fly-in (Feb.16) for the second year. We were just informed by EAA that if an EAA chapter fly-in has *any* FAA waivers for any reason, they will absolutely NOT sanction the event or provide insurance. This would apply to ANY event that has skydiving demos, balloon races, aerobatics, certain demonstrations, military fly-bys, etc. I don't wanna start a big thing on this list per se, but I know this will affect many aviation days, fly-ins, etc. that many of you might be involved with. We were SHOCKED to hear this and it seemed to fly in the face of what I understood they were saying about how the well-publicized changes to the regional event sponsorships. They said that those changes wouldn't affect chapter-level events and fly-ins, but it obviously does. I guess IAC is just out of luck now and can't hold acro contests unless they go it alone? In short, now we have to find our own insurance, and from what I heard at the meeting today, many of the very active chapter members are *seriously* angry with EAA... to the point that many experienced homebuilders have started to question the benefit and purpose of even belonging to EAA and why does our chapter even need to be be affiliated any more if they're not going to help us promote aviation beyond a pancake breakfast? I don't know if this is coming from the underwriters, lawyers, EAA board, or who, but it sure seems to confirm a lot of the rumors that were going around since last year. I've also been told that the new Young Eagles forms have legal language that many pilots can't go along with and which requires the parents to sign away all rights to sue EAA unless they pay EAA's expenses, I'm not a lawyer but I heard about that at Oshkosh from some VERY high-number YE pilots. I didn't place much stock in that story before but now, the pieces seem to fit together rather well. Has the heart and soul of the EAA finally been destroyed by lawyers? I sure hope not, but I'm pretty alarmed right now and sad for the inevitable side-effects. If they can't support their chapters holding reasonable, safe events, then what CAN they do to support local aviation? Oshkosh is wonderful and all, but that's NOT the focus of where new pilots come from! They're basically saying that "if you work with the FAA and follow the rules to keep the event safe, then we expect you to have an accident so we don't want anything to do with you." I should point out that they won't cover ANY part of the event, they're not just excluding covering the parts of it requiring FAA waivers. Anyway, I just thought that many of you would like to know about this situation. We weren't told anything about this until just now... less than a month out from our event! How many other EAA chapters are going to get this same rude awakening at the last minute, and just cancel events entirely? Sad, sad, sad. And they wonder why aviation is so expensive... -Mike ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:43 PM PST US From: RBush96589@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight Hello Don, Thanks to you and everybody else for the congrats.yes I have a few pictures,here are a couple. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aircamper project From: "jmccarth" Is your project still available? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158911#158911 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:23 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: aircamper project Yes. Where are you? Tim -----Original Message----- >From: jmccarth >Sent: Jan 17, 2008 6:41 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aircamper project > > >Is your project still available? > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158911#158911 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aircamper project From: "jmccarth" I'm in Elgin Il, in between Rockford and Chicago. Are there pictures available? You can use my email jmccarth@aim.com. I have tried emailing the address in the link but it has been kicked back to me each time. 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