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     1. 05:23 AM - Larry Harrison (Matt Naiva)
     2. 05:45 AM - Re: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22 (MikeD)
     3. 05:50 AM - Re: Front Page News, Dick Navratil on Sport Aviation Cover ! (Jack T. Textor)
     4. 06:05 AM - Again GREAT article (Scott Schreiber)
     5. 07:33 AM - .Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/04/08 (edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net)
     6. 09:00 AM - Re: Again GREAT article (Dick Navratil)
     7. 10:45 AM - Re: Again GREAT article (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     8. 10:56 AM - Ada Air Expo 2008, Ada, OK (Terry Hall)
     9. 11:35 AM - Re: Again GREAT article (James)
    10. 05:55 PM - Re: Again GREAT article (Isablcorky@aol.com)
    11. 07:55 PM - Re: Again GREAT article (Dick Navratil)
    12. 08:57 PM - Re: Again GREAT article (Scott Schreiber)
 
 
 
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      *Bill,*
      **
      *2 years ago I called Larry he is quite a good fellow to speak with.
      Unfortunately the net is foreign to him. He actually built the Scout with
      Aircamper wings because he was planning ahead.  I think he has built 3-4
      Pietenpol type of aircraft in all and I count him as one of my heroes.*
      **
      *Matt*
      **
      **
      *07:17:50 AM PST US*
        *Subject: * *Alternate engines*  *From: * *"Bill Church" <
      eng@canadianrogers.com>*
      
      
            Don't know if anyone else noticed this or not, but Brian's Sky Scout
            fuselage and motor was originally built by Larry Harrison (the builder
            of the Poplar Piet that Leon referred to). I recognized the nice
      looking
            fuselage from a couple of pictures that were published in the Brodhead
            Pietenpol Association newsletter about a year ago. If you're good at
            reading slightly blurry photos you can see Larry's name right below
      the
            cockpit. According to the newsletter, it was Larry himself that
      removed
            the wings and tail - to mount on a new Air Camper fuselage he built -
            turning his Sky Scout from a one-seater into a two-seater.
            Sky Scout wings and tail on an Air Camper fuselage - would that make a
            Sky Camper or an Air Scout?
      
            Bill C.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22 | 
      
      
      
      Amsafetyc wrote:
      > FYI, neither is mine, but its still a Piet, wide body and improved to meet  my
      needs. Guess what, here's a real surprise I even used epoxy rather than the
      purist casein glue, that Bernie and all the other purist used in their  builds.
      All the purists out there building are using casein glue, aren't  they?
      >   
      >  Actually, if its not the exact same materials, constructed using the  same techniques
      and tools, hand saws etc exactly the way Bernie did it  than by the
      purist definition none can be called a Piet.
      >   
      >  However, following the innovative spirit of Bernie its creator and the idea
      of it being experimental in nature, design and construction, well you  decide.
      >     
      >  John
      
      
      And does your name have to be Bernie too..? This purist thing is sometimes a bit
      much. You can bet your whatevers that if a decent quality epoxy system was off
      the shelf when BHP was building he might have taken a hard look at more modern
      alternatives. After all, he seemed to have developed an interest in Corvair
      engines in the '60's. To me, a Pietenpol is a personal thing - IMHO if you want
      to do this and that to make it your own, then that is bang on in the spirit
      of the aircraft. Vive le difference!
      
      --------
      Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162499#162499
      
      
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| Subject:  | Front Page News, Dick Navratil on Sport Aviation Cover | 
      !
      
      Just got mine last night also Dick, a real beauty!  How do you like
      routing the cables outside of your fuselage?
      
      Jack
      
      www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> 
      
      
      I waited to respond till my issue came today and I got a chance to see
      the article.
      
      
      Thanks Mike, I grabbed an extra copy of the 1999 Sport Aviation that
      featured your plane and your pics have been on the board in my hangar
      ever since.  I still watch your video occasionally on winter nights.
      
      Skip Gadd had a huge role in this building projects, keeping me from
      making some big mistakes.
      
      P.F Beck was also a big help with the volunteers and building at SNF.
      
      I took the idea for the center section radio cut out from Jack Phillips.
      
      Greg Cardinal and Dale Johnson built a great elevator linkage system and
      provided me with the help to copy.  Greg also helped with the fuel
      tanks.
      
      There are too many people on and off of this list to recall right now,
      but thanks to all.
      
      Dick N.
      
      	----- Original Message ----- 
      
      	From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
      <mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>  
      
      	To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
      
      	Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:04 AM
      
      	Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front Page News, Dick Navratil on Sport
      Aviation Cover !
      
      	 
      
      	What a great shot in the arm for the Pietenpol world and
      potential builders out there reading the latest issue of Sport Aviation,
      Dick.
      
      	That was a fine article with excellent photos of you flying your
      radial powered Pietenpol over some gorgeous fall colors up north. 
      
      	You've done us all very proud !     
      
      	 
      
      	Mike C. 
      
      	 
      
      	PS-- you even shaved for that photo !    
      
      	 
      
      	 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Again GREAT article | 
      
      Any chance of some details on that external cabeling? That might well be 
      worth doing from a visual and functional approach.
      
         -Scott
      
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| Subject:  | Re: .Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/04/08 | 
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Again GREAT article | 
      
      Here is another pic that may help.
      Dick
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Scott Schreiber 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:04 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
      
      
        Any chance of some details on that external cabeling? That might well 
      be worth doing from a visual and functional approach.
      
           -Scott
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Again GREAT article | 
      
      Not to appear to be a smart a--,
      
      I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of  self 
      locking nuts.
      
      Nathan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ada Air Expo 2008, Ada, OK | 
      
      Mark your calenders for the 2008 Ada Air Expo to be held June 13-14 at 
      the Ada Municipal Airport, Ada, OK (KADH).  Hope to see from Piets here 
      for this year's event.
      
      Terry Hall
      Announcer 
      Airport Mananger
      www.adaairexpo.com
      
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| Subject:  | Again GREAT article | 
      
      Those are heim joints, no castle nut is needed.  The center of the joint 
      is
      not supposed to pivot.
      
       Jim
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Isablcorky@aol.com
      Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:42 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
      
      
      Not to appear to be a smart a--,
      
      I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of 
      self
      locking nuts.
      
      Nathan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Again GREAT article | 
      
      Sorry, my stupidity is showing again but it pays to be doubly sure.
      
      Nathan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Again GREAT article | 
      
      Those pics were taken in the construction process.  Although not really 
      required as pointed out in another response, before flying, they were 
      changed to castle nuts with cotter pins.  Also a proper fitting clevis 
      pin was installed, it was just easier to have a longer pin in hand while 
      installing and adjusting.
      Dick N.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Isablcorky@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:42 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
      
      
        Not to appear to be a smart a--,
      
        I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of 
      self locking nuts.
      
        Nathan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Again GREAT article | 
      
      What I was thinking of was a stock piet system right up to the tube 
      behind the pilots seat. At that point the tube could extend beyond the 
      fabric and have external horns like Dick's. Only thing that would really 
      have to be figured out is the size of the horns for the right 
      throws/rates. Dick, any pics of those external horns you can bless us 
      with, and your reasoning behind going pushrod rather than cable up to 
      the tube? Absolutly wonderful work!
      
         -Scott
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Dick Navratil 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:51 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
      
      
        Those pics were taken in the construction process.  Although not 
      really required as pointed out in another response, before flying, they 
      were changed to castle nuts with cotter pins.  Also a proper fitting 
      clevis pin was installed, it was just easier to have a longer pin in 
      hand while installing and adjusting.
        Dick N.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Isablcorky@aol.com 
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:42 PM
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
      
      
          Not to appear to be a smart a--,
      
          I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu 
      of self locking nuts.
      
          Nathan
      
      
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