Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/05/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:23 AM - Larry Harrison (Matt Naiva)
     2. 05:45 AM - Re: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22 (MikeD)
     3. 05:50 AM - Re: Front Page News, Dick Navratil on Sport Aviation Cover ! (Jack T. Textor)
     4. 06:05 AM - Again GREAT article (Scott Schreiber)
     5. 07:33 AM - .Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/04/08 (edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net)
     6. 09:00 AM - Re: Again GREAT article (Dick Navratil)
     7. 10:45 AM - Re: Again GREAT article (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     8. 10:56 AM - Ada Air Expo 2008, Ada, OK (Terry Hall)
     9. 11:35 AM - Re: Again GREAT article (James)
    10. 05:55 PM - Re: Again GREAT article (Isablcorky@aol.com)
    11. 07:55 PM - Re: Again GREAT article (Dick Navratil)
    12. 08:57 PM - Re: Again GREAT article (Scott Schreiber)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:23:35 AM PST US
    From: "Matt Naiva" <corvaircoupe@gmail.com>
    Subject: Larry Harrison
    *Bill,* ** *2 years ago I called Larry he is quite a good fellow to speak with. Unfortunately the net is foreign to him. He actually built the Scout with Aircamper wings because he was planning ahead. I think he has built 3-4 Pietenpol type of aircraft in all and I count him as one of my heroes.* ** *Matt* ** ** *07:17:50 AM PST US* *Subject: * *Alternate engines* *From: * *"Bill Church" < eng@canadianrogers.com>* Don't know if anyone else noticed this or not, but Brian's Sky Scout fuselage and motor was originally built by Larry Harrison (the builder of the Poplar Piet that Leon referred to). I recognized the nice looking fuselage from a couple of pictures that were published in the Brodhead Pietenpol Association newsletter about a year ago. If you're good at reading slightly blurry photos you can see Larry's name right below the cockpit. According to the newsletter, it was Larry himself that removed the wings and tail - to mount on a new Air Camper fuselage he built - turning his Sky Scout from a one-seater into a two-seater. Sky Scout wings and tail on an Air Camper fuselage - would that make a Sky Camper or an Air Scout? Bill C.


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    Time: 05:45:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22
    From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
    Amsafetyc wrote: > FYI, neither is mine, but its still a Piet, wide body and improved to meet my needs. Guess what, here's a real surprise I even used epoxy rather than the purist casein glue, that Bernie and all the other purist used in their builds. All the purists out there building are using casein glue, aren't they? > > Actually, if its not the exact same materials, constructed using the same techniques and tools, hand saws etc exactly the way Bernie did it than by the purist definition none can be called a Piet. > > However, following the innovative spirit of Bernie its creator and the idea of it being experimental in nature, design and construction, well you decide. > > John And does your name have to be Bernie too..? This purist thing is sometimes a bit much. You can bet your whatevers that if a decent quality epoxy system was off the shelf when BHP was building he might have taken a hard look at more modern alternatives. After all, he seemed to have developed an interest in Corvair engines in the '60's. To me, a Pietenpol is a personal thing - IMHO if you want to do this and that to make it your own, then that is bang on in the spirit of the aircraft. Vive le difference! -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162499#162499


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    Time: 05:50:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Front Page News, Dick Navratil on Sport Aviation Cover
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    From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
    Just got mine last night also Dick, a real beauty! How do you like routing the cables outside of your fuselage? Jack www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> I waited to respond till my issue came today and I got a chance to see the article. Thanks Mike, I grabbed an extra copy of the 1999 Sport Aviation that featured your plane and your pics have been on the board in my hangar ever since. I still watch your video occasionally on winter nights. Skip Gadd had a huge role in this building projects, keeping me from making some big mistakes. P.F Beck was also a big help with the volunteers and building at SNF. I took the idea for the center section radio cut out from Jack Phillips. Greg Cardinal and Dale Johnson built a great elevator linkage system and provided me with the help to copy. Greg also helped with the fuel tanks. There are too many people on and off of this list to recall right now, but thanks to all. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] <mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front Page News, Dick Navratil on Sport Aviation Cover ! What a great shot in the arm for the Pietenpol world and potential builders out there reading the latest issue of Sport Aviation, Dick. That was a fine article with excellent photos of you flying your radial powered Pietenpol over some gorgeous fall colors up north. You've done us all very proud ! Mike C. PS-- you even shaved for that photo !


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    Time: 06:05:55 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Schreiber" <got22b@subarubrat.com>
    Subject: Again GREAT article
    Any chance of some details on that external cabeling? That might well be worth doing from a visual and functional approach. -Scott


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    Time: 07:33:40 AM PST US
    From: edwinljohnson@bellsouth.net
    Subject: Re: .Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/04/08
    ____________________________________________________________ "Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return."-da Vinci http://bellsouthpwp2.net/e/d/edwinljohnson On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Pietenpol-List Digest Server wrote: > This message has been processed by Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. > > Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels of files were found. > > > For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit > http://ses.symantec.com/


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    Time: 09:00:28 AM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Again GREAT article
    Here is another pic that may help. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Schreiber To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:04 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article Any chance of some details on that external cabeling? That might well be worth doing from a visual and functional approach. -Scott


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    Time: 10:45:38 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Again GREAT article
    Not to appear to be a smart a--, I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of self locking nuts. Nathan **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)


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    Time: 10:56:11 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Hall" <adaairport@cableone.net>
    Subject: Ada Air Expo 2008, Ada, OK
    Mark your calenders for the 2008 Ada Air Expo to be held June 13-14 at the Ada Municipal Airport, Ada, OK (KADH). Hope to see from Piets here for this year's event. Terry Hall Announcer Airport Mananger www.adaairexpo.com


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    Time: 11:35:37 AM PST US
    From: "James" <jthursby@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Again GREAT article
    Those are heim joints, no castle nut is needed. The center of the joint is not supposed to pivot. Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article Not to appear to be a smart a--, I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of self locking nuts. Nathan _____ Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL <http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00 30000 0002548> Music.


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    Time: 05:55:20 PM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Again GREAT article
    Sorry, my stupidity is showing again but it pays to be doubly sure. Nathan **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)


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    Time: 07:55:16 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Again GREAT article
    Those pics were taken in the construction process. Although not really required as pointed out in another response, before flying, they were changed to castle nuts with cotter pins. Also a proper fitting clevis pin was installed, it was just easier to have a longer pin in hand while installing and adjusting. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article Not to appear to be a smart a--, I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of self locking nuts. Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.


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    Time: 08:57:11 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Schreiber" <got22b@subarubrat.com>
    Subject: Re: Again GREAT article
    What I was thinking of was a stock piet system right up to the tube behind the pilots seat. At that point the tube could extend beyond the fabric and have external horns like Dick's. Only thing that would really have to be figured out is the size of the horns for the right throws/rates. Dick, any pics of those external horns you can bless us with, and your reasoning behind going pushrod rather than cable up to the tube? Absolutly wonderful work! -Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Navratil To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article Those pics were taken in the construction process. Although not really required as pointed out in another response, before flying, they were changed to castle nuts with cotter pins. Also a proper fitting clevis pin was installed, it was just easier to have a longer pin in hand while installing and adjusting. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article Not to appear to be a smart a--, I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of self locking nuts. Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c




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