---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/10/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Leonardo da Vinci Quote (Steve Glass) 2. 11:29 AM - Stearman-type fuel gauge (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 12:04 PM - Compression struts (Jack T. Textor) 4. 12:51 PM - Re: Compression struts (gcardinal) 5. 03:17 PM - Re: Compression struts (Jack T. Textor) 6. 03:29 PM - Re: Stearman-type fuel gauge (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) 7. 04:21 PM - external bellcrank assy (Dick Navratil) 8. 06:20 PM - Re: Compression struts (Don Emch) 9. 06:34 PM - 6' Hinges (Gary Boothe) 10. 08:36 PM - Re: Stearman-type fuel gauge (BScott116@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:27 AM PST US From: Steve Glass Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Leonardo da Vinci Quote Magee was actually flying for the RCAF. Steve G Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Leonardo da Vinci Quote From: tbyh@aol.com "Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return, to break the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of God!" -da VinciTh is is not correct. Leonardo da Vinci did not write the words "to break the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of God!" Those words were written b y John Gillespie Magee in his famous poem "High Flight." Magee was an Ameri can flying with the RAF in WW2 and was killed in action. Some people also l ike to attribute those words to Ronald Reagan for his space shuttle Challen ger speech - neither Reagan nor his speechwriters were capable of writing a nything anywhere near that poetic! FW Beseler ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:34 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stearman-type fuel gauge With all this talk of Stearman-type fuel gauges, I'm surprised that Steve Eldredge didn't pipe up with his comments. He built a clever one for his Piet and used to have photos and a narrative of it on his website at BYU (linked from Grant McLaren's BPA website), but that link is now dead. If there is any interest, I can sketch out what Steve did and copy the narrative text onto a webpage to go with the sketches. I printed out the pictures and text back when they were on the BPA website but the picture quality is WAY too low for me to re-scan and I think I can sketch it up fairly accurately. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Compression struts From: "Jack T. Textor" Hi all, Gluing up my left wing, should the mid-wing compression struts be parallel, or be towards the top and bottom of the spars as shown on the plan? Also, same question for the root end struts. Thanks! Jack www.textors.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:20 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Compression struts Jack, The inter-spar compression struts should be towards the top and bottom of the spars. The lower one will need to allow for the airfoil under-camber by either installing it away from the bottom edge of the spar or by carving the under-camber curve into the strut. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack T. Textor To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Compression struts Hi all, Gluing up my left wing, should the mid-wing compression struts be parallel, or be towards the top and bottom of the spars as shown on the plan? Also, same question for the root end struts. Thanks! Jack www.textors.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:05 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Compression struts From: "Jack T. Textor" Greg, Thanks for the note and heads-up on the under-camber. My main concern is with the upper strut. If I place them 1/8 inch below the spar tops, it won't be parallel with the bottom strut, because the front spar is higher than the rear spar. Loving seeing the wing in assembled, getting close to making airplane noises. Thanks, Jack www.textors.com Jack, The inter-spar compression struts should be towards the top and bottom of the spars. The lower one will need to allow for the airfoil under-camber by either installing it away from the bottom edge of the spar or by carving the under-camber curve into the strut. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack T. Textor To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Compression struts Hi all, Gluing up my left wing, should the mid-wing compression struts be parallel, or be towards the top and bottom of the spars as shown on the plan? Also, same question for the root end struts. Thanks! Jack www.textors.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat r onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:19 PM PST US From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman-type fuel gauge Oscar, You havemy attenton as I am either going to custom fabricate one or but one and modify it to my liking.... I am interested! Ken H Oscar Zuniga wrote: With all this talk of Stearman-type fuel gauges, I'm surprised that Steve Eldredge didn't pipe up with his comments. He built a clever one for his Piet and used to have photos and a narrative of it on his website at BYU (linked from Grant McLaren's BPA website), but that link is now dead. If there is any interest, I can sketch out what Steve did and copy the narrative text onto a webpage to go with the sketches. I printed out the pictures and text back when they were on the BPA website but the picture quality is WAY too low for me to re-scan and I think I can sketch it up fairly accurately. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP "Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return, to break the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of God!" -da Vinci/John Gillespie Magee --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:42 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Pietenpol-List: external bellcrank assy Although if was -8 degrees F today,I went out to the hangar and took a couple of pics of my bell crank set up. It is made to the same dimensions in plans. Again, my reasons for going with this set up first was for an antique look but it is also simpler and I dont have to worry about wear on the cable that makes a 180 degree turn on the torque tube. I have also noticed that there is much less friction on the stick. The only thing I would do differently is to raise the assy by 2" to clear the horiz stab. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Compression struts From: "Don Emch" Hi Jack, I might be reading your question all wrong and may not understand what you are saying, but since the spars are the same height the compression struts should work out to be parallel to each other. If I remember right I think the bottom strut is spaced up a little, front and rear, to keep it away from the undercamber of the airfoil. But it would still work out to be parallel with the top strut. But I may not be understanding the question, which would be normal for me! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163396#163396 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:37 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 6' Hinges How are all of you attaching the 6' piano hinges to the spar? Gary Boothe Cool, CA ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:52 PM PST US From: BScott116@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman-type fuel gauge Please post dimensions and materials!. I'm installing my gas tank now! In a message dated 2/10/2008 5:30:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, kmheidecpo@yahoo.com writes: Oscar, You havemy attenton as I am either going to custom fabricate one or but one and modify it to my liking.... I am interested! 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