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1. 03:31 AM - Re: Center Struts (Skip Gadd)
2. 08:42 AM - Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Jack T. Textor)
3. 09:15 AM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Ben Charvet)
4. 10:51 AM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Richard Schreiber)
5. 10:56 AM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Jack T. Textor)
6. 11:18 AM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 11:30 AM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib ()
8. 01:39 PM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Richard Schreiber)
9. 03:02 PM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib (Jack T. Textor)
10. 03:05 PM - Fuel tank question (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
11. 03:23 PM - Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib ()
12. 04:56 PM - Re: Question (MikeD)
13. 06:57 PM - Skiing (Don Emch)
14. 07:08 PM - All points bulletin for Jim Markle (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
15. 07:44 PM - Re: Skiing (Rick Holland)
16. 07:59 PM - Re: Skiing (Don Emch)
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Gary,
Yes, Just change the geometry, like Rick said. You pretty much have to leave the
attach points the same as they should coincide with the uprights in the fuse
side.
Skip
Hales Landing West Virginia
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
Sent: 2/23/2008 9:11:49 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center Struts
Skip,
Thanks! That was Mr. Pietenpols advice, too. Did you leave the attach points the
same and just change the geometry?
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Skip Gadd
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center Struts
Gary,
Bill Rewey says to move the axle forward 3" if you have brakes, thats what I did.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
He went on to discuss moving the landing gear forward about 4, but I dont think
very many have.
Thanks, Gary
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib |
I've cut out the rib where it interferes with the strap and 3/32 ply.
What is everyone else doing about the bottom 3/16" bolt that interferes
with the rib?
Thanks!
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root |
rib
I noticed that interference before I drilled the brackets, and moved
the hole (and bolt) inboard so it would clear. It sounds like you and I
are at the same stage in our projects. I've been studying the archives
for trammeling advice, and hope to paint the hardware for my left wing
this afternoon.
Ben Charvet
Jack T. Textor wrote:
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> Ive cut out the rib where it interferes with the strap and 3/32 ply.
> What is everyone else doing about the bottom 3/16 bolt that
> interferes with the rib?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>
> www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib |
Jack:
I sheeted the 2 inboard ribs with 1/16 ply wood. I then cut and removed the lower
portion of the vertical 1/4 x 1/2 spruce member so that it only contacts the
spar where it is sheeted with the 3/32 ply. I then opened up the 1/16 ply sheeting
enough to allow for clearance on the lower 3/16" bolt.
I have completed my right wing and am actually attaching the inboard straps today.
I just took a couple of photos which I will attach
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, In
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
Sent: 2/24/2008 10:45:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib
Ive cut out the rib where it interferes with the strap and 3/32 ply. What is everyone
else doing about the bottom 3/16 bolt that interferes with the rib?
Thanks!
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root |
rib
Thanks Ben, I was thinking the same but may brace the rib with ply to
allow access to the bolt. After checking your progress on Chris's site,
your fuselage is further along than mine. Good luck with squaring the
wing.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root |
rib
Ben,
A little trammeling advise if I may:
Be sure your compression struts are precisely the same length. I added an
additional comp strut at the outer terminals
Make your cables with a few threads showing when first drawn up semitight.
Tram a little, tighten a little, tram again, tighten. When cables are tight
to your satisfaction, tune them. If you are non musical find a friend or
neighbor who plays guitar and ask their help
Corky
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root |
rib
I set my cables up to my AME standards which were to a thud, thud sound.
I'm not sure which tone you are looking for but I doubt if there is a
tuning fork that goes that low. He also manufactured these neat little
round fibreglass spacers to go in between the two where they meet so
they won't rub on one another and eventually break. Some of these old
guys are pretty crafty. I say he's old; he's really only ten years older
than me but that's old eh. I'm 61 years young.
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: February 24, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with
root rib
Ben,
A little trammeling advise if I may:
Be sure your compression struts are precisely the same length. I added
an additional comp strut at the outer terminals
Make your cables with a few threads showing when first drawn up
semitight.
Tram a little, tighten a little, tram again, tighten. When cables are
tight to your satisfaction, tune them. If you are non musical find a
friend or neighbor who plays guitar and ask their help
Corky
________________________________
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Living.
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s-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib |
Jack,
Let me revise what I said. As you can see from the photos my 3/32 sheeting on the
spar only extends about 1/2 above the strap. The vertical rib member only comes
down to the top edge of the plywood sheeting on the spar.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Schreiber
Sent: 2/24/2008 12:57:10 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib
Jack:
I sheeted the 2 inboard ribs with 1/16 ply wood. I then cut and removed the lower
portion of the vertical 1/4 x 1/2 spruce member so that it only contacts the
spar where it is sheeted with the 3/32 ply. I then opened up the 1/16 ply sheeting
enough to allow for clearance on the lower 3/16" bolt.
I have completed my right wing and am actually attaching the inboard straps today.
I just took a couple of photos which I will attach
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, In
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
Sent: 2/24/2008 10:45:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib
Ive cut out the rib where it interferes with the strap and 3/32 ply. What is everyone
else doing about the bottom 3/16 bolt that interferes with the rib?
Thanks!
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root rib |
Rick,
Thanks so much for the help and pictures!
Jack
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint
strap-intference with root rib
Jack:
I sheeted the 2 inboard ribs with 1/16 ply wood. I then cut and
removed the lower portion of the vertical 1/4 x 1/2 spruce member so
that it only contacts the spar where it is sheeted with the 3/32 ply. I
then opened up the 1/16 ply sheeting enough to allow for clearance on
the lower 3/16" bolt.
I have completed my right wing and am actually attaching the
inboard straps today. I just took a couple of photos which I will attach
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, In
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor <mailto:jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: 2/24/2008 10:45:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint
strap-intference with root rib
I've cut out the rib where it interferes with the strap
and 3/32 ply. What is everyone else doing about the bottom 3/16" bolt
that interferes with the rib?
Thanks!
Jack
www.textors.com
< FONT>
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| Subject: | Fuel tank question |
Members:
Any suggestions on the set-up and hanging of the header tank in the piet? Is
most using two strap material, belting, or ?? If so, any photos of how you are
attaching the sides??
Just asking.......
Village idiot
Ken H
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return,
to break the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of God!"
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| Subject: | Spar butt joint joint strap-intference with root |
rib
Could you forward the pictures please?
Would appreciate it very much.
Lynn Knoll
Wichita
Piet/Vair
dknoll@cox.net
---- "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Thanks so much for the help and pictures!
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint
> strap-intference with root rib
>
>
>
> Jack:
>
>
>
> I sheeted the 2 inboard ribs with 1/16 ply wood. I then cut and
> removed the lower portion of the vertical 1/4 x 1/2 spruce member so
> that it only contacts the spar where it is sheeted with the 3/32 ply. I
> then opened up the 1/16 ply sheeting enough to allow for clearance on
> the lower 3/16" bolt.
>
>
>
> I have completed my right wing and am actually attaching the
> inboard straps today. I just took a couple of photos which I will attach
>
>
>
> Rick Schreiber
>
> Valparaiso, In
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jack T. Textor <mailto:jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
>
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: 2/24/2008 10:45:47 AM
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spar butt joint joint
> strap-intference with root rib
>
>
>
> I've cut out the rib where it interferes with the strap
> and 3/32 ply. What is everyone else doing about the bottom 3/16" bolt
> that interferes with the rib?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
>
> < FONT>
>
>
--
Lynn
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Amsafetyc wrote:
>
>
> I guess you have never had to clean a carburetor that was gunked up form old
fuel.
>
>
> From personal experience with my motorcycle I know that to be true!
>
> So what exactly are your disputing in my slightly exaggerated statement of
45 day no longer being gasoline?
>
> John
>
Yeah I have. I know over time there is separation, I didn't argue that. But also
intrusion of water in polyethylene containers, which is increased by the presence
of alcohol AFAIK, which is an issue dependent on storage conditions. That
also affects model engine fuels based on methanol, though most people use up
a poly gallon jug in short enough time not to have worries. Whatever bit of experience
I have comes from motorcycles and small engines too.
"my slightly exaggerated statement of 45 day no longer being gasoline?"
Ah I see, you were exaggerating a bit. Well, I thought 45 days was a little too
quick from my experience. If you meant to exaggerate then I missed that completely
(gesture of low flying jet over my head)!
--------
Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer
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Just thought I'd share a couple of shots of my day spent skiing today. Just when
I thought I had as much fun as I could have with the Piet I borrowed these
skis from Frank Pavliga. What a ball! I think I'm going to try to copy these
skis. When I get some measurements made up I could share them with others if
interested.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | All points bulletin for Jim Markle |
I know ,I should know better, but some times one gets too engrossed in the
conversation to pay attention to details.
I had a visit from Jim Markel today he visited me at my shop where he gave
me the once over, we had great discussion about Piets, designs and
modifications build progress all the things that builders discuss having limited
time.
We went out had pizza and continued the discussion over beer the adult
beverage of builders he suckered my into paying for it, I fell for the old where
is the men'sIts room trick and still thought nothing of it.
We returned to my shop where we shook hands and he drove away, I went back
into my shop low and behold something just didn't look quite right. I wnet to
rip a piece of lumber and noticed I couldn't, my table saw was missing, gone
disappeared just gone. I know I locked the shop and I remember Jim asking a
bunch of questions about it, was it new? how much did I pay for it? How do you
collapse the legs to uses the pull around wheels and finally how much doe it
weigh? can one man move it easily? I paid no attention to his questions I
just thought he like the saw and was considering getting one like it. I didn't
not realize he was sizing it up because he wanted not one like mine, he wanted
my saw.
That rascal, I sure am glad my wife wasn't there she would be missing too
and I really liked that saw!
Had the pleasure of Jim's company this afternoon, I really enjoy meeting
with him over beer and pizza the ambassador and I have had several meeting over
beer and found we have a common piet interest and builders affinity, yup its
beer! No question about it.
Its always a pleasure to meet with Jim a gentlemen and good friend,
NOW where's my SAW?
I wish him safe travels and hope to see him again soon.
I WANT MY SAW BACK NOW!
John
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
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Looks like fun Don, did you have to do anything with your tailwheel?
Rick
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd share a couple of shots of my day spent skiing today.
> Just when I thought I had as much fun as I could have with the Piet I
> borrowed these skis from Frank Pavliga. What a ball! I think I'm going to
> try to copy these skis. When I get some measurements made up I could share
> them with others if interested.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=166044#166044
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ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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No I just dragged it around. Next year I'll make a ski for it because the airstrips
get rough when they are all frozen up and the wheel doesn't glide over them
the way a ski does.
Don Emch
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