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1. 12:25 AM - Brodhead camping (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 12:32 AM - stainless tank (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: Spruce Alternatives (Owen Davies)
4. 05:39 AM - Dan H. and Poplar Grove (shad bell)
5. 07:19 AM - Re: [!! SPAM] Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas Fir Piets (Ryan Mueller)
6. 07:32 AM - Re: [!! SPAM] Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas Fir Piets (Gary Boothe)
7. 08:03 AM - Re: Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas Fir Piets (montanacos)
8. 09:03 AM - (no subject) (Isablcorky@aol.com)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: stainless tank (Dick Navratil)
10. 09:22 AM - Re: (no subject) ()
11. 09:33 AM - Re: (no subject) (Dick Navratil)
12. 09:38 AM - Re: (no subject) ()
13. 09:46 AM - Re: (no subject) (Rick Holland)
14. 09:51 AM - Re: (no subject) (Isablcorky@aol.com)
15. 09:52 AM - ping pong balls (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
16. 09:59 AM - Let's look at altimeters (John Egan)
17. 10:00 AM - Re: (no subject) (Dick Navratil)
18. 10:07 AM - Re: (no subject) ()
19. 10:09 AM - Re: Brodhead questions (Rick Holland)
20. 10:09 AM - Re: Dan H. and Poplar Grove (HelsperSew@aol.com)
21. 10:10 AM - Re: (no subject) (Dick Navratil)
22. 10:25 AM - Re: (no subject) (Isablcorky@aol.com)
23. 10:40 AM - Re: (no subject) (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
24. 10:40 AM - Re: (no subject) (Phillips, Jack)
25. 10:42 AM - Re: Brodhead questions (Ryan Mueller)
26. 10:59 AM - Re: (no subject) ()
27. 11:37 AM - How not to be a responsible member of the aviation community (Ryan Mueller)
28. 11:42 AM - Re: (no subject) (Catdesigns)
29. 11:50 AM - Re: How not to be a responsible member of the aviation community (Ryan Mueller)
30. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: (no subject) ()
31. 01:01 PM - Re: (no subject) (Roman Bukolt)
32. 01:07 PM - Re: (no subject) (Roman Bukolt)
33. 01:10 PM - Weight of water- the last word (HelsperSew@aol.com)
34. 01:44 PM - Re: (no subject) (Gordon Bowen)
35. 02:35 PM - Re: (no subject) (Gene & Tammy)
36. 02:43 PM - Re: (no subject) (Isablcorky@aol.com)
37. 02:48 PM - Re: Let's look at altimeters (gcardinal)
38. 02:59 PM - Re: Let's look at altimeters (Gene Rambo)
39. 03:30 PM - Re: Weight of water- the last word (walt evans)
40. 03:48 PM - Re: ping pong balls (Michael Silvius)
41. 04:35 PM - Re: (no subject) (MaxHegler)
42. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: (no subject) (MaxHegler)
43. 05:16 PM - Re: [!! SPAM] Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas Fir Piets (jimboyer@hughes.net)
44. 05:31 PM - Re: Let's look at altimeters (Owen Davies)
45. 06:55 PM - Re: Dan H. and Poplar Grove (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
46. 06:59 PM - Re: (no subject) (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
47. 08:12 PM - Re: Weight of water- the last word (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Brodhead camping |
I've never stayed at the are motels, but I know there are some around,
someone else can answer that one.
Camping is allowed, they ask for a donation which is very fair, and
there are showers.
My wife and I camp each year we can make it and it's one lf the
highlights of our year.
Douwe
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Thanks all for your input, glad we have this group to save one from
making stupid choices. Stainless is way too heavy.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Spruce Alternatives |
Ryan Mueller wrote:
> AC 43.13-1B is the latest version of that circular. If you go to:
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> http://rgl.faa.gov/
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> ....you can find PDF's of that and any other AC's and assorted docs.
Got it! Many thanks.
Owen
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| Subject: | Dan H. and Poplar Grove |
Dan, We should be up at Brodhead this summer in Dad's piet, and plan on stopping
off at Poplar Grove as a last fuel stop on the way. Some on the list may rember
the story of our last Brodhead attempt in 06 which ended in a 600 mile trailer
ride from Poplar Grove due to the engine acting up. Not sure if we'll be
up that way on the Thurs or Fri before it all starts, But if you see a blue
and orange piet come in give us a shout, we'd love to see your project.
Shad Bell
NX92GB
P.S. Tell Steve Thomas, Shad And Gary Bell say hello, the guys from Ohio who
borrowed his trailer a couple years ago.
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| Subject: | Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas |
Fir Piets
Yes...if I had just kept my yap shut and read a little farther down in the article,
I would have noticed that it said the following:
"If your spruce ship weighs, say, 800 pounds empty you would have probably around
100 to 150 lbs of wood in it. With fir your ship would pick up 25 to 35 lbs
more, which isn't very much, all things considered."
Disregard my previous stupidity, if you would.
Ryan
Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote: Not so fast there, young fella...
The 680 pounds includes a whole lot more than spruce (or fir). That weight includes
all the plywood, glue, metal fittings, fabric, paint, cables, fittings,
wheels, and among other things, an ENGINE.
Using Fir won't add that much to the weight to the finished plane. But this is
a small plane, and whatever the weight difference is will be EXTRA weight.
Bill C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Pietenpol-List: Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas
Fir Piets
According to the text of an article in the EAA Aircraft Building Techniques: Wood
book, fir is approximately 26% heavier than spruce.
Say a Piet built from spruce was 680 lbs. If you built the whole thing from fir
(without reducing dimensions), it would be 826. Based on those calcs....
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| Subject: | Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas |
Fir Piets
Ryan,
Stupidity duly noted and disregarded. I often need the same considerations..
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: [!! SPAM] Pietenpol-List: Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs.
Douglas Fir Piets
Yes...if I had just kept my yap shut and read a little farther down in the
article, I would have noticed that it said the following:
"If your spruce ship weighs, say, 800 pounds empty you would have probably
around 100 to 150 lbs of wood in it. With fir your ship would pick up 25 to
35 lbs more, which isn't very much, all things considered."
Disregard my previous stupidity, if you would.
Ryan
Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
Not so fast there, young fella...
The 680 pounds includes a whole lot more than spruce (or fir). That weight
includes all the plywood, glue, metal fittings, fabric, paint, cables,
fittings, wheels, and among other things, an ENGINE.
Using Fir won't add that much to the weight to the finished plane. But this
is a small plane, and whatever the weight difference is will be EXTRA
weight.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. Douglas Fir Piets |
Thanks for the advise on waiting until I have the plans. I certainly don't want
to waste time and money. Just the kind of input that I am looking for.
Have a good day
Tim
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167643#167643
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Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one gallon milk
jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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| Subject: | Re: stainless tank |
Douwe
If you are interested in checking out the realistic weight of stainless
tanks, I have 2 wing tanks that I will be bringing to Sun n Fun to sell
at the Fly mart. They are 3/4" too long to fit into the Piet. They
aren't all that heavy.
Dick N.
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From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: stainless tank
Thanks all for your input, glad we have this group to save one from
making stupid choices. Stainless is way too heavy.
Douwe
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1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that's any help.
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Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one gallon
milk jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
Dick N.
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From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that's any help.
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Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one gallon
milk jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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That's your gallon.Our gallon is bigger.
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Navratil
Sent: March 4, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
Dick N.
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To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that's any help.
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Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one
gallon milk jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
You can always count on a swimming pool designer/builder to know the density
of water to two decimal places.
Rick
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net>
wrote:
> Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
> Dick N.
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> 1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that's any help.
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> Pieters,
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> Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one gallon milk
> jug support? Thanks
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Obviously I misstated my question. Let me put it from a practical view.
If a 750 lb Aeronca with a 190 lb pilot were to find himself floating in the
gulf of mexico how many EMPTY SEALED gallon milk jugs should he have stached
aboard to keep he and the Aeronca floating until???????????
Nathan again
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So Corky, are you planning another nonstop solo flight from San Diego to
Honolulu in your new Aeronca ? Wasn't the Fisherman in Florida
wanting
to make his Piet buoyant when he embarked on his never-to-be-realized
flight to his beloved Belize ?
Don't forget to fill your tires with helium:)
Mike C.
in Ohio
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| Subject: | Let's look at altimeters |
Hello Group,
I am interested in learning what type of altimeter people like to use in their
Piets as well as how well they like the function of thier altimeter. I would
like to hear thoughts when comparing sensitive, non-sensitive and uma altimeters.
I am in the building stage. This plane will only fly on clear days where the
ground will be visible and the Piet will fly at way less than 10,000 feet above
sea level.
I have a vintage altimeter where the needle always points straight up, and the
face rotates to a given altitude, however this altimeter can not be corrected
for pressure changes. I like the idea of having the needle move (not the face),
so at a quick glance, a person can quickly see approximately what the altitude
is by needle location. I'm sure other people have valid preferances that may
be interesting to hear.
Thank you in advance!
John E.
in Wisconsin waiting for the shop to warm up this spring
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| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
Rick
It has gotten pretty bad when I find myself doing volume and flow rate
calculations and calculating water heating BTU's in my head without a
calculator.
Dick
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From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
You can always count on a swimming pool designer/builder to know the
density of water to two decimal places.
Rick
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Dick Navratil
<horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
Dick N.
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From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that's any help.
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Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one
gallon milk jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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The sharks are going to get you first anyway.Use Archamede's principle
for this one.It's a displacement formula which at this time escapes me.
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Obviously I misstated my question. Let me put it from a practical view.
If a 750 lb Aeronca with a 190 lb pilot were to find himself floating in
the gulf of mexico how many EMPTY SEALED gallon milk jugs should he have
stached aboard to keep he and the Aeronca floating until???????????
Nathan again
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead questions |
Just for your info, flying commercial into Milwaukee is closer to Broadhead.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I'm seriously contemplating a trip to Brodhead and Oshkosh this summer.
> I am planning to fly commercial from Orlando to Chicago and rent a car
> from there. Is there a motel close by Brodhead, or do some people camp
> at the airport for the weekend? I could probably just buy a tent when I
> get up there and use it both at Brodhead and at Osh if that is
> possible. I'm hoping to have my Piet project finished by the 80th
> anniversary and would love to meet some of the guys on the list and
> maybe even get a ride in one.
>
> Ben Charvet
> Mims, Fl
> Baby Ace N39D
> Piet Project NX866BC
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| Subject: | Re: Dan H. and Poplar Grove |
Shad,
I will be in Brodhead on Friday, but if you come in Thursday give me a call
on my cell 815 298-5680 and I would love to show you and your dad my airplane.
Yes Steve Thomas is a wonderful man and we here (the people who live at
Poplar Grove) are very fortunate to have him as the benevolent man in charge of
things.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Didn't we do this same calculation for Corkey a couple of years ago
using ping pong balls? Was he going to invade Cuba or some such thing
back then?
The basic answer is 113 to achive neutral bouancy, theoretically. That
equalls approximatly 15 cu/ft.
Maybe you should carry 3-4 innertubes and a tire pump to save some
space.
Dick
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Obviously I misstated my question. Let me put it from a practical
view.
If a 750 lb Aeronca with a 190 lb pilot were to find himself floating
in the gulf of mexico how many EMPTY SEALED gallon milk jugs should he
have stached aboard to keep he and the Aeronca floating until???????????
Nathan again
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Dick, have you priced ping pong balls lately???????????????????
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Actually its 8.322
In a message dated 3/4/2008 12:34:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
horzpool@goldengate.net writes:
Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
Dick N.
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1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that=99s any help.
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Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one gallon milk
jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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Why do you need the airplane to float? Do you think it will be worth
much after gettting a dunking in salt water? Just buy a pair of water
wings.
Or better yet, build a pair of floats for it and turn it into a seaplane
Jack
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Didn't we do this same calculation for Corkey a couple of years ago
using ping pong balls? Was he going to invade Cuba or some such thing
back then?
The basic answer is 113 to achive neutral bouancy, theoretically. That
equalls approximatly 15 cu/ft.
Maybe you should carry 3-4 innertubes and a tire pump to save some
space.
Dick
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Obviously I misstated my question. Let me put it from a
practical view.
If a 750 lb Aeronca with a 190 lb pilot were to find himself
floating in the gulf of mexico how many EMPTY SEALED gallon milk jugs
should he have stached aboard to keep he and the Aeronca floating
until???????????
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If you don't mind connecting flights you can even fly in to Madison for about $20
to $40 more. That puts you a hop, skip, and jump from Brodhead. Then you don't
have to deal with Milwaukee (don't get me wrong, dealing with Gen'l Mitchell
is far better than either Chicago airports). Saves some hassle and drive time.
Plus, if you fly in to Madison you can go over to the general aviation terminal
on the east side of the field and eat at the Jet Room. A fine diner in and
of it's own right, plus the whole west wall is solid glass looking out onto
the ramp and the airport. Fantastic food, great atmosphere...you can't beat it.
Ryan
Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: Just for your info, flying commercial
into Milwaukee is closer to Broadhead.
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My best non-engineer guess
Buoyancy of the jug equals weight of water displaced
F=(Vw)
F= force (in this case buoyancy)
V=volume of fluid displaced in cubic feet (1 gal=0.1336806 cubic feet)
w = specific weight of the fluid (Sea water which is slightly heaver then fresh
water weighs in at about 64 pounds per cubic feet. Anyone know the actual density
of sea water in the Gulf?)
So 64 x 0.1336806 = 8.5555584 pounds per gallon at full submersion
Now Cork woops I mean Nathans plane sitting in the water will weigh 940 pounds.
If we assume the plane has zero flotation on its own, it will require
940 / 8.5555584 = 109 gallons of floatation.
Lets round up to 110 to account for the added weight of the jugs.
So 110 gal x 0.1336806 = 14.70 cubic feet of space Nathan needs to find
Milk here in California is $3.99 per gallon so the cost of flotation will be $438.90.
However, you could probably scrounge around and get them for free.
Containment of the jugs post water landing might be a problem. In addition, the
plane will want to float nose down. You will want to have the flotation in front
of and below the pilot so you will stay high and dry until you can get out.
NO sense in placing it behind you as all the rescue people will see is the
tail bobbing up and down in the water. And you probably didn't have time to get
out.
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Chris Tracy
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As I said before Jaws is going to get you anyway. How bout filling the
plane up with those little packing thingies that come with everything
you buy these days. It's a good way to get rid of them and it will give
the searchers a trail to find what's left of you.Styro foam packing.
There's the ticket;Strips of styro foam glued through out the plane for
boyance.You could also have some way to jettison your engine to lighten
things up a little.If you get out it will lighten it up even more.;-)
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Actually, one gallon of water weighs 8.345 lbs.
(last time I checked)
Roman Bukolt
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On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:19 AM, <harvey.rule@bell.ca> wrote:
> 1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that=92s any help.
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com
> Sent: March 4, 2008 12:00 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Pieters,
>
> Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one
> gallon milk jug support? Thanks
>
> Nathan
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Now this is a whole different story.
Sea water is heavier than fresh water.
Sea water weighs 64 lb./cu.ft. whereas fresh water weighs only 62.4 lb/
cu.ft.
therefore the Champ in the Gulf will require fewer empty milk bottles
than if it ends up in somebody's swimming pool.
Roman Bukolt
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On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Isablcorky@aol.com wrote:
> himself
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Guys,
Actually, the precise weight of a gallon of water is
8.34592064524857635249487625145629957355 lbs.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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If memory serves right, Corky was trying to figure out how many plastic
gallon milk jugs he needed on board to make his Piete float, think it
was the Cuban invasion thing.
Gordon
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From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
Didn't we do this same calculation for Corkey a couple of years ago
using ping pong balls? Was he going to invade Cuba or some such thing
back then?
The basic answer is 113 to achive neutral bouancy, theoretically.
That equalls approximatly 15 cu/ft.
Maybe you should carry 3-4 innertubes and a tire pump to save some
space.
Dick
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From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
Obviously I misstated my question. Let me put it from a practical
view.
If a 750 lb Aeronca with a 190 lb pilot were to find himself
floating in the gulf of mexico how many EMPTY SEALED gallon milk jugs
should he have stached aboard to keep he and the Aeronca floating
until???????????
Nathan again
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Corky, forget the milk jug thingy and buy booze in plastic jugs. It'll
make your stay at sea a whole lot happier. Besides, you can only drink
just so much milk.
Gene
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What a drum of worms I opened, SORRY
just wanted to know what a gallon of air would support in water
HOWEVER
You more adventurer Pieters will soon be wanting to take the new suuthern
flight cruise with others now that Cuban air space will soon open normal
international operations. Let's say that Oscar, Mike King, Mike Cuy, Jack Phillips,
Smokie from Wichita and others meet in Key West. File a group flight plan
for Havanna, Cozemal, Vera Cruz, Tampico, Brownsville and San Antonio. Drink a
lot of beer, see a lot of water, get in real good graces with their wives.
Now, isn't that worth some time collecting old milk jugs?
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These are sweet, but pricey......
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Let's look at altimeters
Hello Group,
I am interested in learning what type of altimeter people like to use
in their Piets as well as how well they like the function of thier
altimeter. I would like to hear thoughts when comparing sensitive,
non-sensitive and uma altimeters. I am in the building stage. This plane
will only fly on clear days where the ground will be visible and the
Piet will fly at way less than 10,000 feet above sea level.
I have a vintage altimeter where the needle always points straight up,
and the face rotates to a given altitude, however this altimeter can not
be corrected for pressure changes. I like the idea of having the needle
move (not the face), so at a quick glance, a person can quickly see
approximately what the altitude is by needle location. I'm sure other
people have valid preferances that may be interesting to hear.
Thank you in advance!
John E.
in Wisconsin waiting for the shop to warm up this spring
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John, in the non-sensitive altimeter you describe, the needle DOES move
when you start ascending, just not when you turn the knob. Set it to
zero on the ground and the needle moves up as you climb. There is
absolutely nothing wrong with this, it is very light, simple and
accurate. All you ever really need to know is an approximate pattern
altitude from time to time. Otherwise, the Piet doesn't need an
altimeter.
Gene
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From: John Egan<mailto:johnegan99@yahoo.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Let's look at altimeters
Hello Group,
I am interested in learning what type of altimeter people like to use
in their Piets as well as how well they like the function of thier
altimeter. I would like to hear thoughts when comparing sensitive,
non-sensitive and uma altimeters. I am in the building stage. This plane
will only fly on clear days where the ground will be visible and the
Piet will fly at way less than 10,000 feet above sea level.
I have a vintage altimeter where the needle always points straight up,
and the face rotates to a given altitude, however this altimeter can not
be corrected for pressure changes. I like the idea of having the needle
move (not the face), so at a quick glance, a person can quickly see
approximately what the altitude is by needle location. I'm sure other
people have valid preferances that may be interesting to hear.
Thank you in advance!
John E.
in Wisconsin waiting for the shop to warm up this spring
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| Subject: | Re: Weight of water- the last word |
OK let's call it 8.3 lbs.
That means that a weight above the water , of 8.3 lbs,,,standing on that
empty jug, would find neutral bouyancy.
Something IN the water holding on to the jug would have more bouyancy
cause the water that "something" is in, is floating him at the rate of
how much water HE displaces.
Talk to the old Submarine man.
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From: HelsperSew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weight of water- the last word
Guys,
Actually, the precise weight of a gallon of water is
8.34592064524857635249487625145629957355 lbs.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: ping pong balls |
Michael:
Ping Pong balls are so old news - - - -
inflated prophylactics is where its at, Back in 1999 Marcelo Matocq a
motorcycle mechanic from Argentina flew his ultralight via the caribean
to S&Fand later Oshskosh he filled his wings with inflated condoms and
had an air matress riged with a fire extinguisher ready to be deployed
under his seat in the eventuality of a water landing.
http://www.hangar57.com/Cristobal%20Colon%20.htm
http://www.southern-aviator.com/editorial/articledetail.lasso?-token.key=
1119&-token.src=column&-nothing
Michael
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ping pong balls
So Corky, are you planning another nonstop solo flight from San Diego
to Honolulu in your new Aeronca ? Wasn't the Fisherman in Florida
wanting
to make his Piet buoyant when he embarked on his never-to-be-realized
flight to his beloved Belize ?
Don't forget to fill your tires with helium:)
Mike C.
in Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.3452641 lbs. ;)
Max
On 3/4/08 11:30 AM, "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
> Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
> Dick N.
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>> 1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if that=B9s any help.
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ilk
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A lot of the "popcorn" they put in packages today is made of water soluble
corn starch. I think as it dissolved, it would leave a trail for the sharks
to find you. ;)
Max
On 3/4/08 1:57 PM, "harvey.rule@bell.ca" <harvey.rule@bell.ca> wrote:
>
> As I said before Jaws is going to get you anyway. How bout filling the
> plane up with those little packing thingies that come with everything
> you buy these days. It's a good way to get rid of them and it will give
> the searchers a trail to find what's left of you.Styro foam packing.
> There's the ticket;Strips of styro foam glued through out the plane for
> boyance.You could also have some way to jettison your engine to lighten
> things up a little.If you get out it will lighten it up even more.;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Finished wieghts of Spruce Piets vs. |
Douglas Fir Piets
Bad calculations Ryan.
Your 680 pound Piet only has about 100 pounds of wood in it. So its possible a
fir Piet might be 26 pounds heavier.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Let's look at altimeters |
gcardinal wrote:
> *These are sweet, but pricey......*
This reminds me of an aviation artifact I once REALLY wanted to buy. It
sold perhaps ten years ago for $1000, which I didn't have at the time.
No doubt it would have been wrong of me to expose such a precious thing
to danger, but I would have mounted it in any airplane I flew.
It was Wrongway Corrigan's compass!
Owen
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| Subject: | Re: Dan H. and Poplar Grove |
Say Shad.....
Since you have extensive engine building knowledge on corvairs,.......I could
bring my corvair engine ready to be assembled for a engine build seminar?...
Ken
shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dan, We should be up at Brodhead this summer in Dad's piet, and plan on stopping
off at Poplar Grove as a last fuel stop on the way. Some on the list may
rember the story of our last Brodhead attempt in 06 which ended in a 600 mile
trailer ride from Poplar Grove due to the engine acting up. Not sure if we'll
be up that way on the Thurs or Fri before it all starts, But if you see a blue
and orange piet come in give us a shout, we'd love to see your project.
Shad Bell
NX92GB
P.S. Tell Steve Thomas, Shad And Gary Bell say hello, the guys from Ohio who
borrowed his trailer a couple years ago.
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A southern gallon "mud water" which weights just about 10.2lbs. That aint no coffee
either!
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Thats your gallon.Our gallon is bigger.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick Navratil
Sent: March 4, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
Actually, a gal of water weighs 8.33 lbs.
Dick N.
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From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
1 gallon of water weighs 10lbs if thats any help.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: March 4, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
Pieters,
Would someone figure for me how much weight in water would one gallon milk
jug support? Thanks
Nathan
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| Subject: | Re: Weight of water- the last word |
At what tempurature?
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
A friend of mine's girlfriend is looking at cars. Fuel mileage is very
important to her.
Since they are in Victoria and that is the home to almost every senior
in Canada.
Most of them ( er, us ) are still most comfortable with gallons and
miles, not
that new fangled metric stuff. Anyway all the magazines are US and the
mileages
quoted are in mpg. As a public service the car dealers have calculated
mpg from
metric. Funny thing is, the same car sold in the US somehow has magicaly
aquired much better mpg sold in Victoria. Now how could that be! :-)
Clif
Corky! Just put floats on the thing like Jack says and buy a Mae West.
There's Pietenpol floats in F&G # 1933.
Guys,
Actually, the precise weight of a gallon of water is
8.34592064524857635249487625145629957355 lbs.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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