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1. 04:08 AM - wire wheel collapse (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 04:11 AM - Re: floating in the Gulf of Mexico ()
3. 04:13 AM - message to newbies (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 04:22 AM - Re: chip bag exploding, turbulence over Chicago....war stories ()
5. 06:01 AM - Re: Posting Photos (Bill Church)
6. 06:36 AM - Re: floating in the Gulf of Mexico (Dave Abramson)
7. 07:49 AM - Re: floating in the Gulf of Mexico ()
8. 08:02 AM - Re: floating in the Gulf of Mexico (Isablcorky@aol.com)
9. 08:39 AM - Re: message to newbies (Bill Church)
10. 09:02 AM - Re: message to newbies ()
11. 01:15 PM - Re: (no subject) (walt evans)
12. 03:58 PM - Re: message to newbies (Gene & Tammy)
13. 04:23 PM - Re: message to newbies (Isablcorky@aol.com)
14. 07:01 PM - Re: chip bag exploding, turbulence over Chicago....war stories (tmbrant1@netzero.com)
15. 07:03 PM - Douglas fir in Minneapolis (tmbrant1@netzero.com)
16. 07:38 PM - Douglas fir in MPLS (Dick Navratil)
17. 08:26 PM - Re: message to newbies (Gordon Bowen)
18. 11:20 PM - Help! Pietenpol safety question (Mike Whaley)
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| Subject: | wire wheel collapse |
Gary,
I don't know if personally witnessing two wheels collapses allows me to
raise my hand, that's what I've seen.
Both were unmodified motorcycle hubs, both on smaller WW1 replicas in
similar weight ranges as piets.
Douwe
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| Subject: | floating in the Gulf of Mexico |
OK,OK,I'll take a stab at it and say a 20lb midjit.OK there ya go.That
is provided he doesn't try to swim and he's not fat.Why, because
everybody knows fat floats.
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Sent: March 5, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
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I can hardly believe the variety of answers posted on this net for the
answer to a simple little question,
" how much weight attached to the handle will a sealed empty gallon milk
jug support until the entire jug is submerged in salt water"? I've had
answers such as " the aircraft is burning", "jaws nibbling at my butt",
"dog fighting with Raual's Air Force", "quick engine release" but still
no one has answered my question.
Nathan
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| Subject: | message to newbies |
Dear newbies,
Please don't be alarmed or surprised at the turn of the discussion in
the last two days. Don't unsubscribe and burn your plans thinking we're
a bunch of nuts.
Fact is, sometimes the technical discussions seem to take these odd
turns (shall we say degenerate..), however be assured that sanity has
always returned after a few days, usually after every possible, subtle
nuance of the topic at hand has been thoroughly wrung from it, and every
vital technical aspect has been properly surveyed from every possible
angle.
We apologize, we just can't seem to help ourselves.
Interesting thing is... I'm still not sure how much water weighs
however...
D
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| Subject: | chip bag exploding, turbulence over Chicago....war |
stories
Excellent tales!
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: March 5, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: chip bag exploding, turbulence over
Chicago....war stories
All this talk of high adventure overwater flying, marine creatures
feeding on wayward Pietenpol pilots at
sea has caused me to recall a fine sunny but cool summer day heading
back from Wisconsin around
the perimeter of Chicago, namely Aurora, Illinois. After looking at
Google Maps satellite view I realized
that my flight path took me almost directly over where that scumbag Drew
Peterson lives I realized
that he's not far from Clow Airport where I landed for fuel and lunch.
I digress.
Did you ever park your Pietenpol with all your bags packed in a front
fabric 'sling' that is snapped into the
perimeter of the front seat (with front stick removed from handy little
front socket) and have your water bottle
leak onto your sweatshirt and jacket while you were camping overnight,
only to find out that if you didn't
wear those items you would freeze on your ride home ? Although
incredibly refreshing on the ground
when you've almost experienced heat exhaustion and dehydration in
Wisconsin during the summer,
a Canadian high pressure system will cause your teeth to chatter rapidly
at any altitude in an Air Camper
in July. Such was the case as I flew south in my wet sweatshirt and
semi-wet jacket. Have you ever
fumbled with a sectional to see which tall towers to miss with numb
fingers ? Who would have ever
packed gloves in July for a flight to Wisconsin ? Have you ever
gotten out your ziplock bag of hard
candies in that rough air coming down from Canada and ended up dropping
it without even yanking a solitary
piece of candy from the bag before some negative then positive jolts
send the bag crashing to your mahogany
floorboards, spewing candy all over the place ? Have you ever tried
to pee in one of those Little Red Plastic
jewels in flight while in this very turbulent, cool air mass over
Chicagoland while holding the stick between
your knees and trying to overcome the shrinkage factor because you're
too prideful to land to pee since
you just took off not less than 30 minutes ago and you have a full 2
hours of fuel yet to burn on an otherwise
very pretty day ? Have you ? You haven't lived then....::))
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| Subject: | RE: Posting Photos |
All right, Fred. I'll explain this one more time (and I'm writing this only
because I want to see your pictures).
There are two ways to post pictures.
1) You can simply attach pictures to your e-mail message that you post
to this list. The attachments will go to everyone subscribed to the "live"
list. Those subscribed to the "digest" list will NOT receive the
attachments. HOWEVER, for subscribers to the digest version that want to see
photos that get attached - there is also the Matronics Pietenpol Forum,
which is basically the same List, in a slightly different format (which
allows photos to be posted). Here's the link:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=7
2) The old-fashioned way is to send the photos to the matronics
Photoshare. This is a more long-lasting way to post your pictures, as they
are kept in a specific location that is easy to find. Here's the procedure
for that method:
If you wish to submit a Photo and File Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email pictures and files along with the information above to:
pictures@matronics.com
That's it. Pretty easy.
Bill C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tbyh@aol.com
By the way, I took some pics of Don Emch's "wake-up call" first flight of
the day on?Saturday morning of last year's Brodhead Piet fly-in.?5:46 a.m.
liftoff -- I looked at my watch. I took the pics?as I walked over to the
shower. How do I post those pics on here? I posted some pics once before?but
I forget how...
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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| Subject: | floating in the Gulf of Mexico |
You would think Amelia Earharts Lockheed would have floated for quite some
time with all those empty tanks!!!
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Dave
DIT-VIT
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clif Dawson
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:47 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
This brings up a couple of points
1-gasoline is lighter than water so a full tank provides a small
measure of floatation.
2- As the tank empties the space is filled with air. A completely
empty tank provides quite a bit of floatation depending on it's volume.
Clif
And don't forget Alcock and Brown, Wrong Way, Beryl Markham and
all those who lost their lives in the attempt.
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From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
No ping pong balls in the "Spirit". Charles had 5 fuel tanks. Fuselage,
Nose, Center Right and Left Wing tanks with capacity of over 400 gals. Talk
about balls, he had 'em.
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| Subject: | floating in the Gulf of Mexico |
She , her plane and passenger were taken by aliens!
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Abramson
Sent: March 6, 2008 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
You would think Amelia Earharts Lockheed would have floated for quite
some time with all those empty tanks!!!
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Dave
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clif
Dawson
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:47 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
This brings up a couple of points
1-gasoline is lighter than water so a full tank provides a small
measure of floatation.
2- As the tank empties the space is filled with air. A
completely
empty tank provides quite a bit of floatation depending on it's
volume.
Clif
And don't forget Alcock and Brown, Wrong Way, Beryl Markham and
all those who lost their lives in the attempt.
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From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of
Mexico
No ping pong balls in the "Spirit". Charles had 5 fuel
tanks. Fuselage, Nose, Center Right and Left Wing tanks with capacity of
over 400 gals. Talk about balls, he had 'em.
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| Subject: | Re: floating in the Gulf of Mexico |
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I finally know how many jugs I need, so please
DROP IT
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| Subject: | message to newbies |
As an example of what Douwe was mentioning about discussions taking an odd
turn (sheesh):
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
She , her plane and passenger were taken by aliens!
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Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
You would think Amelia Earharts Lockheed would have floated for quite some
time with all those empty tanks!!!
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| Subject: | message to newbies |
Ya made my day Bill.I was wondering what would come out of that
comment;-0 Actually they were taken by the Japs but that's a
whole other story.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: March 6, 2008 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: message to newbies
As an example of what Douwe was mentioning about discussions taking an
odd turn (sheesh):
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
She , her plane and passenger were taken by aliens!
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Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
You would think Amelia Earharts Lockheed would have floated for quite
some time with all those empty tanks!!!
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| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
If floating in salt water, you'll have higher bouyency. :^)
walt evans
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"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
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From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
Is that salt water or distilled water or fresh water???
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Sent: March 4, 2008 5:40 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
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What a drum of worms I opened, SORRY
just wanted to know what a gallon of air would support in water
HOWEVER
You more adventurer Pieters will soon be wanting to take the new
suuthern flight cruise with others now that Cuban air space will soon
open normal international operations. Let's say that Oscar, Mike King,
Mike Cuy, Jack Phillips, Smokie from Wichita and others meet in Key
West. File a group flight plan for Havanna, Cozemal, Vera Cruz, Tampico,
Brownsville and San Antonio. Drink a lot of beer, see a lot of water,
get in real good graces with their wives. Now, isn't that worth some
time collecting old milk jugs?
ANOMS
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| Subject: | Re: message to newbies |
Douwe, you ever notice that Corky is usually the one that starts most of
these?
Gene
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From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: message to newbies
Dear newbies,
Please don't be alarmed or surprised at the turn of the discussion in
the last two days. Don't unsubscribe and burn your plans thinking we're
a bunch of nuts.
Fact is, sometimes the technical discussions seem to take these odd
turns (shall we say degenerate..), however be assured that sanity has
always returned after a few days, usually after every possible, subtle
nuance of the topic at hand has been thoroughly wrung from it, and every
vital technical aspect has been properly surveyed from every possible
angle.
We apologize, we just can't seem to help ourselves.
Interesting thing is... I'm still not sure how much water weighs
however...
D
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| Subject: | Re: message to newbies |
You a'int seen nothing yet. Now that we've sunk I'll try to really start
something wild or better something to keep you interested, confused, angry and
provoked. Heck I'm retired with nothing else to do with my time while Isabelle
plays bridge.
Corky, Levi and Nathan
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| Subject: | Re: chip bag exploding, turbulence over Chicago....war |
stories
This story reminded me of one of my wife's first flights with me. I'd recently
been checked out in an Archer which counted for using the FBOs Warrior - although
I had never flown it. I scheduled a flight in the Warrior with my wife and
brother. She sat in the back. From the beginning of the flight things were
going wrong.. DG precessing agressively, radios blinking on and off, etc..
My brother and I were trying to figure out what was going on with the radios
when all of the sudden we heard what sounded like an electrical short - it sounded
like something was frying. My brother and I both looked at eachother with
that look of - oh crap, we're gonna have to take this thing down and now...
We look around and behind us and we heard the noise again coming from behind
us... It was my wife - she'd opened a bag of chips and the rustling sound sounded
just like something was frying. She just looked at us innocently and said
- what??
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Douglas fir in Minneapolis |
Anyone know where I can get some doug fir in Minneapolis area? Need some spar
material and wouldn't mind using fir if it's available nearby. Otherwise I'll
head to Mckormicks.
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Douglas fir in MPLS |
Tom posted this just at the right time. I was at Hiawathe Lumber at
42nd & Hiawatha today and picked up spar material. They are a bit low
on stock right now but still have some nice 18' pieces. I paid $2.79
per running ft for 1x8x18.
That is fully sanded finished 3/4x7 1/4.
I paid a total of $305.70 for enough to do both spars, make trailing
edges and leading edges and cutting blocking with spare. Also this is
for 16' mand 18' sections as this is for a different plane.
Scherer Brothers Lumber at 9 9th AVE NE Mpls also carries it. Right
off 35W at Broadway. They dont stock it at their Arden Hills yard.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: message to newbies |
Truth be known, Commander Corky wasn't planning to invade Cuba, he was
just trying to figure out a way of gettin' some fly time over the
Lou-see-anna swamps without a gator gettin' him. Dem are big swamps and
big gators.
Gordon
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From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: message to newbies
You a'int seen nothing yet. Now that we've sunk I'll try to really
start something wild or better something to keep you interested,
confused, angry and provoked. Heck I'm retired with nothing else to do
with my time while Isabelle plays bridge.
Corky, Levi and Nathan
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| Subject: | Help! Pietenpol safety question |
I plan on sailing my newly-built milk-jug raft from here in Melbourne over
to Bimini next month. But, I want to be safe.
Can anyone tell me how many empty Pietenpols I should carry in my boat to
make sure it doesn't sink on me in case of a hurricane?
-Mike
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