---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/23/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:10 AM - Vintage altimeter on Ebay (HelsperSew@aol.com) 2. 10:48 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 03/21/08 () 3. 12:43 PM - A New Person (Lagowski Morrow) 4. 02:48 PM - Highest elevation for A powered Piet? (helspersew@aol.com) 5. 06:12 PM - Re: Highest elevation for A powered Piet? (bhassel) 6. 06:20 PM - 3' Center Section (Gary Boothe) 7. 08:16 PM - Re: 3' Center Section (Steve Eldredge) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:40 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Vintage altimeter on Ebay OK fellas, here ya go. A 4" vintage non-sensitive altimeter on Ebay item # 320228332790, currently at $135.00. Does not have knob, but mine didn't either. I found a nice knob from Mcmaster-Carr Supply. Good luck. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:48 AM PST US From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 03/21/08 From: Pietenpol-List Digest Server Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 03/21/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-03-21&Archive=Pietenpol Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-03-21&Archive=Pietenpol =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/21/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:39 AM - Windshield thickness (John Franklin) 2. 06:48 AM - Re: Windshield thickness (hvandervoo@aol.com) 3. 12:49 PM - Re: Windshield thickness (Don Emch) 4. 05:33 PM - Corvair engine package for sale (MikeD) 5. 09:16 PM - 1st rib (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:51 AM PST US John, There is a big difference in strength between Plexiglas and Lexan. he Lexan is much stronger than the Plexiglas and is not notch sensetive. Lexan does not weather well, turns yellow, and scratches much easier. Plexiglas can be strip heated and formed much easier and will weather very well if you don't use Windex as a cleaner. Plexiglas will also resist gasoline and Lexan will not especially if stressed. Stay with the .125" Plexiglas Hope this helps Stu Brown From: John Franklin Subject: Pietenpol-List: Windshield thickness I have "access" to a large sheet of either Plexiglass or Lexan, I don't know which, but it is only 0.078" thick...I think most of the builders are using 1/8", so is this stuff too thin to use for a windshield? John F. GN-1 / Corvair Richmond, TX ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshield thickness From: hvandervoo@aol.com John, I just checked mine and it is .08 standard home depot Lexan. First day of Spring was a beautiful flying day, I skipped work early to get a few minutes of flying in. Regards Hans -----Original Message----- From: John Franklin Sent: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 6:36 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Windshield thickness I have "access" to a large sheet of either Plexiglass or Lexan, I don't know which, but it is only 0.078" thick...I think most of the builders are using 1/8", so is this stuff too thin to use for a windshield? John F. GN-1 / Corvair Richmond, TX ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:50 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield thickness From: "Don Emch" John, Mine is .080" thick plexiglass. Seems to work fine although it wouldn't hurt to have .125". The thinner is easier to work with I suppose. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171551#171551 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engine package for sale From: "MikeD" I just listed a "firewall forward" sale item on Barnstormers.com. I am selling the engine, cowl, prop, engine mount, and electrics from a project I recently bought, since I already have a Continental planned for the aircraft. You'll find it if you search "Corvair angine package". The engine is converted per BHP's specs, has something like 40 hours run-in time on a test stand, and no air time. The molded cowl parts were done on BHP's original mold. The builder was keen on authenticity throughout the entire project. Please take a look. We're planning to make the drive down from Ontario to Colorado to pick this up somewhere in April, likely later in the month. Ideally for a US customer we would dismount the engine etc. while there and ship it from CO. Makes for a lighter trip home and fewer questions at the border. I hope I have posted this in the spirit of the forum guidelines - it's the only thing I have for sale, I'm not a peddler. Cheers, Mike D. -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171618#171618 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/frontleftview_109.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:22 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st rib Fellow Pieters, Today I built my first rib! It took about 2 hrs, including gluing and nailing all the gussets. I know I'm not telling any of you anything you don't already know, but I feel like there should be some sort of club, or secret handshake.something! Gary Boothe Cool, CA WW Conversion 90% done, Working on Tail Group (and ribs) Do not archive! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:52 PM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A New Person Let me introduce myself, a new person on the list-Jim Lagowski. a Pietenpol builder in N.W. Michigan near Traverse City. I have been working on mine for almost 4 years and am now within 2-3 months of hearing engine noise. This is my 2nd plane, the first being an all-composite, 150mph, 2-place KIS which I sold in '06. My Piet. will use a 65hp Continental, hydraulic brakes, gas tank behind the firewall, 3 piece wing and at least initally a metal prop that came with the engine. This will help I think with weight and balance compared to a wood prop and Model A engine. We'll see. The color scheme is ivory with green trim, including scollops on the wings and vertical and horizontal stabilizers. landing gear is like the Fly Baby, with no springs or bungees. Just fat soft tires. My cabanes and landing gear Vees are laminated ash. I still have to cover the fuselage and then paint, and then reinstall the engine and make the engine cowlings. The tail pieces are done and painted and the wings will be finish painted this coming week My goal is to make Broadhead and Oshkosh this year. I would be interested in hearing from you flyers what your experience has been with speeds for planning purposes, such as cruise, stall, in the pattern, on final etc. It is time to start outlining my test program. Since I have a certified engine and prop I will only have to fly 25 hours before taking passengers and leaving the local area. Thanks for your help! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:35 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Highest elevation for A powered Piet? From: helspersew@aol.com I need opinions for the following: What would be the highest elevation for a base of operations for an A powered Piet? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Highest elevation for A powered Piet? From: "bhassel" I know of at least one in Albuquerque - that's about a mile high. I'm in Santa Fe and pattern altitude is about 7200 ft (though I haven't so much as bought a stick of wood - yet). There are several in Colorado that I know of including this one Subie Powered. Bob Santa Fe, NM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172066#172066 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:29 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3' Center Section Those who are increasing the center section to 3', are you diminishing the wings by a like amount? Does anyone have a flying example of a 3 piece wing with a 3' center section? Gary Boothe Cool, CA WW Conversion 90% done, Working on Tail Group (and ribs) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st rib That's just about where I am, started and finished the tailfeathers in 2000. Now here it is, 2008 and 740 hours later. I'm working on my 3 ft center section now. It's mounted but will be off again for tank fitting and installation, ply covering, etc. This thing sure does look different with it sitting up there!.I keep promising myself I'll take pictures but I seem to spend that time making engine noises. :-) Clif "So many worlds, so much to do, so little done, such things to be." ~ Lord Alfred Tennyson ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:59 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st rib Congratulations Gary!! Now you are on your way to a wonderful experience. I am 8 years and counting. Hopefully you will finish sooner. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. _____ Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c _____ 3/22/2008 4:43 PM ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:36 PM PST US From: Steve Eldredge Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 3' Center Section Not that I know of, but I built mine with a 4' center section with vertica l cabanes. I did take off the amount of wing panels to get the same wingsp an. Flies fine. Larger center section gave a slight increase in fuel capacity. ~14gallons. Stevee From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3' Center Section Those who are increasing the center section to 3', are you diminishing the wings by a like amount? Does anyone have a flying example of a 3 piece wing with a 3' center section? Gary Boothe Cool, CA WW Conversion 90% done, Working on Tail Group (and ribs) ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st rib That's just about where I am, started and finished the tailfeathers in 2000 .. Now here it is, 2008 and 740 hours later. I'm working on my 3 ft center section now. It's mounted but will be off again for tank fitting and instal lation, ply covering, etc. This thing sure does look different with it sitting up there!.I keep promis ing myself I'll take pictures but I seem to spend that time making engine noise s. :-) Clif "So many worlds, so much to do, so little done, such things to be." ~ Lord Alfred Tennyson ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:59 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st rib Congratulations Gary!! Now you are on your way to a wonderful experience. I am 8 years and counting. Hopefully you will finish sooner. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ 3/22/2008 4:43 PM http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.