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1. 12:01 AM - Re: spreader bar gear question ()
2. 04:40 AM - Re: spreader bar gear question (Phillips, Jack)
3. 04:47 AM - covering wing roots (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind ()
5. 05:06 AM - Re: covering wing roots (Phillips, Jack)
6. 05:13 AM - Re: spreader bar gear question (Ben Charvet)
7. 05:36 AM - Head Wind Takeoff (tbyh@aol.com)
8. 06:22 AM - sun n fun (airlion@bellsouth.net)
9. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind (Owen Davies)
10. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind ()
11. 07:11 AM - Fantasy (HelsperSew@aol.com)
12. 07:33 AM - Re: Fantasy ()
13. 01:02 PM - Re: spreader bar gear question (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
14. 01:36 PM - Re: spreader bar gear question (Steve Eldredge)
15. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind (Gene & Tammy)
16. 05:18 PM - Re: spreader bar gear question (gcardinal)
17. 07:02 PM - Plans (slowbilder@comcast.net)
18. 07:12 PM - Re: spreader bar gear question (pietflyr)
19. 07:32 PM - hello folks. (Mr Rudder)
20. 07:52 PM - Re: Plans (Dave and Connie)
21. 08:16 PM - Re: spreader bar gear question (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
22. 08:18 PM - Re: spreader bar gear question (gcardinal)
23. 10:15 PM - Re: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: spreader bar gear question |
Greg, that is the coolest picture.
My first axel is just a bit short after I added brakes. I only have
about 1.5 inches between the ash block and the brake. My next axel will
have more like 3 inches. Of course my isn't flying like Greg's is so who
knows if it will be right.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: gcardinal
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spreader bar gear question
Hi Gene,
Two inches is about right for 3 wraps of 5/8" cord.
See attached.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo
OK, you guys with spreader bar gear . . . how much space did you
leave between the ash block and the inner wheel retainer? I assume we
need to leave some space for the shock cord, but how much?
I have the gear finished and bolted on, and I am ready to cut my
axle to length. I just want to make sure I leave enough excess.
Gene
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Subject: | spreader bar gear question |
Hi Gene,
Mine has about a 6" gap between the ash V-Blocks and the wheel retainer
(mine has hydraulic brakes). I wouldn't want it any tighter. Wrapping
the bungees is about my least favorite part of maintaining the airplane.
Here is a picture that shows that part of the gear pretty well.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Rambo
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spreader bar gear question
OK, you guys with spreader bar gear . . . how much space did you leave
between the ash block and the inner wheel retainer? I assume we need to
leave some space for the shock cord, but how much?
I have the gear finished and bolted on, and I am ready to cut my axle to
length. I just want to make sure I leave enough excess.
Gene
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Subject: | covering wing roots |
Guys,
When the weather permits I'm going to spray my wings. I've left the wing
roots open thinking I like seeing the inside for inspections. However,
I got to wondering if a lot of rain water might find it's way into the
wings under the gap covers.
Should I cover the wing roots or is it no big deal, what have you guys
done.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind |
It is the pilots curse that when in the air we want to get down and when
down we want back up.There is a continual worry the whole time that one
is up there of all the things that can or could go wrong.It keeps you on
your toes but makes for many grey hairs.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Owen
Davies
Sent: March 26, 2008 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind
Don Emch wrote:
> It feels so strange all you can do is sit there and laugh and think
'That was F-U-U-U-N!'
Years ago, as a student pilot, I went out for a solo cross-country in
the Colt we owned back then. The weather people were calling 10 kt with
minor gusts. I got the Colt off the ground, and the moment it was over
the trees started fighting to keep the wings facing up. Over the next 45
minutes or so, my left shoulder felt bruised, and my head hit the liner
two or three times despite a well-cinched belt. I pretty much forgot
about where I was going until what should have been two-thirds of the
way through the flight. (This did not worry me much, as I was heading
north out of Keene, NH, and there wasn't any controlled airspace to
worry about until much farther than I intended to go.) Then I recognized
the airport below, about 40 degrees off course. I thought for a minute
or so about aiming for my original destination and decided just to head
home. I later learned that gusts had tipped my instructor's Warrior into
a 90-degree bank twice in a 20-mile flight. It seemed exciting at the
time.
The point being that I've never been more relieved to get back on the
ground in an airplane that was still working. (Not that I have all that
much air time, alas!) But no sooner had I tied it down and begun walking
to the car than I was looking up at the sky, which suddenly was bright
blue instead of dark overcast, wishing that it were a nicer day to fly
and I could get back into the air.
Owen
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Subject: | covering wing roots |
Douwe,
I covered mine primarily to make it a little more difficult for mice and
mud-daubers to move in. I have a 2" gap between the wing and the
centersection which is covered by an aluminum fairing, held in place
with about 900 sheet metal screws. It is a pain to take those fairings
off, and it really doesn't allow inspection of anything interesting
except the main spar attach bolts. You can't see much through a 2" gap.
Here is a picture of the plane when I was rigging it in the hangar
before its first flight, with the wing root fairings off. You can see
how little actual useful inspection room is available.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: covering wing roots
Guys,
When the weather permits I'm going to spray my wings. I've left the wing
roots open thinking I like seeing the inside for inspections. However,
I got to wondering if a lot of rain water might find it's way into the
wings under the gap covers.
Should I cover the wing roots or is it no big deal, what have you guys
done.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: spreader bar gear question |
gcardinal wrote:
> *Hi Gene,*
> **
> *Two inches is about right for 3 wraps of 5/8" cord.*
> *See attached.*
> **
I really like the idea of using hose clamps to join the loops of
bungee. I hadn' seen that before. I have the split gear, but this
method should work for my setup too. Thanks!
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl;
NX 866BD reserved
Hoping to fly in 09
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Subject: | Head Wind Takeoff |
Years ago when I was still a student pilot I took off solo in the Super Cub into
a head wind so strong that when I turned downwind I met myself still taking
off. By the time I turned final and got back on the ground I had enough hours
for an ATP license...
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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Subject: | Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind |
harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote:
>
> It is the pilots curse that when in the air we want to get down and when
> down we want back up.There is a continual worry the whole time that one
> is up there of all the things that can or could go wrong.It keeps you on
> your toes but makes for many grey hairs.
That's what did it? Jeez, if I'd know that I might have taken up
kayaking instead.
Owen
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Subject: | Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind |
Tie the kayak to the side of the Piet and away ya go!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Owen
Davies
Sent: March 27, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind
harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote:
>
> It is the pilots curse that when in the air we want to get down and
when
> down we want back up.There is a continual worry the whole time that
one
> is up there of all the things that can or could go wrong.It keeps you
on
> your toes but makes for many grey hairs.
That's what did it? Jeez, if I'd know that I might have taken up
kayaking instead.
Owen
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Hi Guys,
A lot of times when I go up I purposely try to imagine myself one of the
Wright brothers when they began to have some more successful flights from
Huffman Prairie outside Dayton. How they must have felt being the first human
beings to feel and see these sensations and being able to see the world from the
great perspective of the sky looking down. When I saw the photo posted
yesterday (or Tues) by Greg Cardinal looking down and through his straight axle
gear
I was reminded of this. We are a privileged lot!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL
Home.
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I spend a lot of my time looking for places to land just in case.A bunch
of short periods are for sight seeing.A lot short periods to make sure
all is with the aircraft.A few to look at the gps,a few to look at a
knee map,a few to;well you get the picture.I can only imagine that those
guys spent most of their time being very busy at the whole thing of
control at first and only after many ,many flights did they get into the
sight seeing thing.Not to mention those few moments of sheer terror with
the unknown.I think I was on a ride at the amusement park called the BAT
that may have been somewhat like that.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HelsperSew@aol.com
Sent: March 27, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fantasy
Hi Guys,
A lot of times when I go up I purposely try to imagine myself one of the
Wright brothers when they began to have some more successful flights
from Huffman Prairie outside Dayton. How they must have felt being the
first human beings to feel and see these sensations and being able to
see the world from the great perspective of the sky looking down. When I
saw the photo posted yesterday (or Tues) by Greg Cardinal looking down
and through his straight axle gear I was reminded of this. We are a
privileged lot!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
________________________________
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<http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=
aol
hom00030000000001> .
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Subject: | Re: spreader bar gear question |
Greg,
Great detailed photo......appears to be about 1200 ft AGL.? Question.....why
are you taking a photo of your wheel assembly while flying???? ;)
Village idiot
Ken H
gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Gene,
Two inches is about right for 3 wraps of 5/8" cord.
See attached.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo
OK, you guys with spreader bar gear . . . how much space did you leave between
the ash block and the inner wheel retainer? I assume we need to leave some
space for the shock cord, but how much?
I have the gear finished and bolted on, and I am ready to cut my axle to length.
I just want to make sure I leave enough excess.
Gene
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return,
to break the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of God!"
-da Vinci/John Gillespie Magee
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Subject: | spreader bar gear question |
Probably trying to shoot a picture of his shadow... Look close!
Steve E.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spreader bar gear question
Greg,
Great detailed photo......appears to be about 1200 ft AGL.? Question.....wh
y are you taking a photo of your wheel assembly while flying???? ;)
Village idiot
Ken H
gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Gene,
Two inches is about right for 3 wraps of 5/8" cord.
See attached.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo<mailto:GeneRambo@msn.com>
OK, you guys with spreader bar gear . . . how much space did you leave betw
een the ash block and the inner wheel retainer? I assume we need to leave
some space for the shock cord, but how much?
I have the gear finished and bolted on, and I am ready to cut my axle to le
ngth. I just want to make sure I leave enough excess.
Gene
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return,
to break the surly bonds of earth and touch the face of God!"
-da Vinci/John Gillespie Magee
________________________________
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Subject: | Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind |
As they say, The only thing worse than standing on the ground looking up at
the sky and saying "I wish I was up there, is being up in the sky, looking
down at the ground and saying "I sure wish I was down there!".
I work very hard to worry about my plane and myself while we're on the
ground, so I don't have to worry while I'm in the air.
Gene
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Subject: | Re: spreader bar gear question |
Photo credit belongs to my daughter. She took the picture on her first
ride last summer.
Life is good!
Greg
From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
Greg,
Great detailed photo......appears to be about 1200 ft AGL.?
Question.....why are you taking a photo of your wheel assembly while
flying???? ;)
Village idiot
Ken H
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Where can Pietenpol plans be purchased? I'm corresponding with a guy who does
not use the internet and needs a set of Piet plans.
Bob Humbert
N491RH
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Subject: | spreader bar gear question |
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http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/ points to mail order by:
HOW TO ORDER AIRCRAFT PLANS (OPTION #1)(By Postman)
Please send Check or Money Order to Donald Pietenpol (Manager of
Plans/Blueprints) at the below address.
For your order to be processed promptly, it must contain the correct price(s)
and shipping cost(s) in US Dollars.
All aircraft orders are processed immediately upon check clearance. The only
exception is if Donald Pietenpol is at one of three required yearly medical
check-ups. A shipping delay of two to three weeks will occur.
Donald D. Pietenpol (Bernard H. Pietenpol's Son)
1604 Meadow Circle S.E.
Rochester, MN 55904
Home Number (507) 289-2436
Home Fax: (507) 289-1279
Email: PietenpolDon@Yahoo.com
HOW TO ORDER AIRCRAFT PLANS (OPTION #2)(By Postman)
Please send Check or Money Order to Andrew Pietenpol (Manager of
Plans/Blueprints) at the below address.
For your order to be processed promptly, it must contain the correct price(s)
and shipping cost(s) in US Dollars.
All aircraft orders are processed immediately upon check clearance.
Andrew C. Pietenpol (Bernard H. Pietenpol's Grandson)
Pietenpol Field & Shop - Cherry Grove
P.O. Box 1267
Spring Valley, MN 55975
Home Number: (763) 797-0057 (after 5:00 p.m. Central Time)
Email: BHP.And.Sons.Air.Camper.Aircraft@Gmail.com
I am guessing that a phone call would be a good place to start.
Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12
At 09:59 PM 3/27/2008, slowbilder@comcast.net wrote:
>Where can Pietenpol plans be purchased? I'm corresponding with a guy who
>does not use the internet and needs a set of Piet plans.
>
>Bob Humbert
>N491RH
>
>
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Subject: | Re: spreader bar gear question |
Ditto's!!!
gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote: Photo credit belongs to my daughter.
She took the picture on her first ride last summer.
Life is good!
Greg
From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
Greg,
Great detailed photo......appears to be about 1200 ft AGL.? Question.....why
are you taking a photo of your wheel assembly while flying???? ;)
Village idiot
Ken H
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return,
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Subject: | Re: spreader bar gear question |
And daughter #2......
Last year I flew her 130 miles to her friend's summer home in Spirit
Lake, Iowa. Her friends were waiting at the airport when we landed.
All of her friends treated her like a rock star and my status was
instantly raised to "Coolest Dad on the Planet"
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: pietflyr
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: spreader bar gear question
Lord, Greg! How did an ugly dude like you get such a fox for a
daughter? Will she be at Brodhead this year?
JackPhillips
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Subject: | Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind |
You need two, one for each wheel.
My center section is temporarily fitted. After having
a fuselage with nothing above it for so long, it feels
quite different with this big thing sitting above it.
Engine noises now have a whole new feeling.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind
>
> Tie the kayak to the side of the Piet and away ya go!
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Owen
> Davies
> Sent: March 27, 2008 9:28 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind
>
>
> harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote:
>>
>> It is the pilots curse that when in the air we want to get down and
> when
>> down we want back up.There is a continual worry the whole time that
> one
>> is up there of all the things that can or could go wrong.It keeps you
> on
>> your toes but makes for many grey hairs.
> That's what did it? Jeez, if I'd know that I might have taken up
> kayaking instead.
>
> Owen
>
>
> --
> Checked by AVG.
> 7:15 PM
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>
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