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1. 12:36 AM - Re Bolts in Leading Edge (Graham & Robin Hewitt)
2. 12:58 AM - Re: Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind (Clif Dawson)
3. 04:45 AM - Re: Re Anchor nuts in Leading edge (HelsperSew@aol.com)
4. 04:48 AM - N number reservation (HelsperSew@aol.com)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: Re Anchor nuts in Leading edge (Owen Davies)
6. 06:27 AM - Re: N number reservation (Don Emch)
7. 07:46 AM - Re: Re Bolts in Leading Edge (Gene Rambo)
8. 07:51 AM - Re: N number reservation (Gene Rambo)
9. 07:57 AM - Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (Michael Silvius)
10. 08:42 AM - Re: N number reservation (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=)
11. 09:06 AM - Re: N number reservation (walt evans)
12. 09:33 AM - Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (Rick Holland)
13. 09:40 AM - Powder coat heat question (Rick Holland)
14. 09:58 AM - Re: N number reservation (Gene Rambo)
15. 10:00 AM - Re: Powder coat heat question (Gene Rambo)
16. 10:45 AM - Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (walt evans)
17. 11:38 AM - Re: Powder coat heat question (Gardiner Mason)
18. 12:23 PM - Re: Powder coat heat question (Rick Holland)
19. 01:56 PM - Re: Powder coat heat question (Gardiner Mason)
20. 03:42 PM - Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (bhassel)
21. 04:57 PM - Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup! (Matt Dralle)
22. 06:22 PM - engine choices (was Acceptable Engine Confusion) (Oscar Zuniga)
23. 08:07 PM - Re: engine choices (was Acceptable Engine Confusion) (bhassel)
24. 08:33 PM - Re: Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (gcardinal)
25. 08:33 PM - Re: Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (Rick Holland)
26. 08:58 PM - Re: Powder coat heat question (VAHOWDY@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re Bolts in Leading Edge |
I should have been more explicit, I meant the nuts for the plates
bolting the three peice wing onto the center section.
Once the ply is on these important nuts cannot be tightened except by
accessing thru the root rib gap.
Anchor nuts inside the D nose would permit this.
Regards Graham
Checked by AVG.
28/03/2008 10:58 AM
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| Subject: | Re: landing a Piet with a strong headwind |
First, thanks guys.
Now, Bill, yes I am going to arch the tank top two inches
higher. When I made my Piet windvane I bumped up the
center and it looked fine on the model. The tank shape
I'm planing on should come out to 21 US gallons.
With a properly fitted tube and funnel I can save on
baby oil. :-) " Look Mommy, what's that yellow smoke
coming from that airplane?"
One thing I've come to realize is that the center section
spars are too short to have any significant bending loads.
But I did make them by glueing strips of 3/8" X 3/4"
Hemlock to each side of 1/4" ply, thus ending up with a
1" wide section. Partialy to experiment with this kind of construction and
have something to attach the brackets to.
If you look closely at the filler blocks on the spar ends,
under the metal brackets, you'll see the ends taper out.
Looks fancy and isn't too important structuraly at this
location but if you make your wing spars with this
kind of built-up construction, including the British
one, this kind of "butterfly" section is important at the
outer strut attach point. as it spreads and dissapates
the bending loads. This kind of construction was always
emphasized in wooden hollow mast construction for
any size boat. Those boys knew a thing or two about
keeping their "sticks" in one peice. After all, a mast IS
a wing spar, isn't it. I've attached the hersheybar wing
loading chart. Mark the outer strut attach point on it
to see how the wing loads concentrate at this location.
It should be somewhere near the 60 point I think.
Clif
> Clif Dawson wrote:
>> My center section is temporarily fitted. After having
>> a fuselage with nothing above it for so long, it feels
>> quite different with this big thing sitting above it.
>> Engine noises now have a whole new feeling.
> Congratulations! But can you tell us about your spars? Alternatives to the
> flat plank were a topic of some interest here not long ago, as you may
> recall. More information about them would be very welcome.
>
> Owen
>
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> Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Re Anchor nuts in Leading edge |
Owen,
When you finally get around to attaching the leading edge, it will become
abundantly clear why Bernard included those leading edge attach bolts. It is
impossible to glue such a long piece and keep everything lined up perfectly
and be assured everything ends up straight and in the precise location when the
glue is dry. You don't need to use such big bolts like Bernard. I only used
6-32 screws.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | N number reservation |
Tim,
I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I could have
had 1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what I got.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Re Anchor nuts in Leading edge |
HelsperSew@aol.com wrote:
> When you finally get around to attaching the leading edge, it will
> become abundantly clear why Bernard included those leading edge attach
> bolts. It is impossible to glue such a long piece and keep everything
> lined up perfectly and be assured everything ends up straight and in
> the precise location when the glue is dry. You don't need to use such
> big bolts like Bernard. I only used 6-32 screws.
Thanks. Still leaves the question of why no one else does it, but no
doubt you're right. It will become clear when I have to do it.
Owen
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| Subject: | Re: N number reservation |
Dan,
I'm sure you know this, but if there are others that don't, remember if you use
NX at the front of your number when you paint it on the airplane it takes the
place of painting EXPERIMENTAL on the fuselage near the cockpit. Just a nice
little bonus of building an older design.
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173400#173400
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| Subject: | Re: Re Bolts in Leading Edge |
MessageGraham:
Although I may be misunderstanding, it looks like you are suggesting
that the leading edge is a full D box which would prevent you from
accessing any bolts/nuts that go through the spar, such as the wing
attach fittings. The leading edge material, however, only goes from the
nose of the ribs to the top of the spar, not all the way around, so any
bolts/nuts are accessible from the bottom of the leading edge.
Again, I could be misunderstanding your question.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Graham & Robin Hewitt<mailto:grhewitt@globaldial.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:33 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re Bolts in Leading Edge
I should have been more explicit, I meant the nuts for the plates
bolting the three peice wing onto the center section.
Once the ply is on these important nuts cannot be tightened except by
accessing thru the root rib gap.
Anchor nuts inside the D nose would permit this.
Regards Graham
Checked by AVG.
28/03/2008 10:58 AM
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| Subject: | Re: N number reservation |
You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5
and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while
under construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand.
That way, you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or
worry about losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your
final inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been
registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of
a pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!
Gene
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To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Tim,
I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I
could have had 1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what
I got.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion |
Bob:
Plenty of Piets and GN1s (and Zenith 601s) flying around today with Corvair
engines. Many using the unmodified engine as Bernard originally did and more
recently many following William Wynnes recipe. Bernard's original conversion
likely only made about 65 to 70 hp at the useable rpm for a prop. Now if you
follow the William Wynne (www.flycorvair.com) conversion where you replace
the original cam with the OT-10 profile cam from Clarks Corvair leave the
big blower fan off and follow all the other recommended steps to convert the
engine (including nitriding the crank for safety) you can get 90 to 100
useable hp from it. And that is a whole lot more than the original Ford
engine. We have several on this list currently flying with the Corvair.
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
>
> I've received my Piet plans and manual and have read through them. It
seems that the Corvair is an acceptable alternative.
>
> The GN-1 plans however say that a Corvair engine doesn't have enough
thrust.
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| Subject: | Re: N number reservation |
I remember reading this once before but couldn't seem to locate the instructions
on the submission. Not to over think the process, do you need to provide a serial
number and if so what is the required format for that? Assuming that we
create our own SN
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Gene Rambo" <generambo@msn.com>
To:<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 and register
the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under construction
(or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, you do not have
to renew your reservation periodically or worry about losing your number. Also,
you cannot have the FAA give your final inspection and issue an airworthiness
unless the airplane has been registered and has a permanent registration on
board, NOT a pink copy of a pending registration. Found that one out the hard
way!
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: HelsperSew@aol.com <mailto:HelsperSew@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Tim,
I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I could have had
1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what I got.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: N number reservation |
John,
You make one up.
I used the years of my kids birth.
#737678
(and my N number ending, is in honor of my Mentor, Dick Lawson)
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"If you look for a reason not to,,,You'll find it"
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Recine" <AmsafetyC@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
> <AmsafetyC@aol.com>
>
> I remember reading this once before but couldn't seem to locate the
> instructions on the submission. Not to over think the process, do you need
> to provide a serial number and if so what is the required format for that?
> Assuming that we create our own SN
>
> John
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gene Rambo" <generambo@msn.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:46:41
> To:<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
>
>
> You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5
> and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under
> construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way,
> you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about
> losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final
> inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been
> registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a
> pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: HelsperSew@aol.com <mailto:HelsperSew@aol.com>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:44 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
>
>
> Tim,
>
> I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I could
> have had 1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what I got.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> ----------------
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion |
I am building a Corvair Piet and will also be flying out of a 6500 ft.
airport, should easily be enough power for at least solo flying from the
research I have done. But won't know for sure until it really flies.
Rick
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:59 PM, bhassel <bob@cozyworld.net> wrote:
>
> I've received my Piet plans and manual and have read through them. It
> seems that the Corvair is an acceptable alternative.
>
> The GN-1 plans however say that a Corvair engine doesn't have enough
> thrust.
>
> I know that the Corvair was an alternative to the Ford Model A and others
> but does it develop enough thrust? Do the Continentals and Lyco's develop
> more thrust?
>
> I'm on the heavy side and will be flying out of airports that are high
> altitude 6,500 ft and up.
>
> What's the 'collective' wisdom?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173367#173367
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Powder coat heat question |
Question for any powder coat experts out there - have a powder coated engine
mount and the way my Corvair engine is sitting with the exhaust pipe taking
a hard 90 degree bend from the end of the manifold the pipe will come within
about a half inch of one of the powder coated engine mount tubes. Question
is how much heat can the powder coating take? The guys at the shop that do
the coating said that they coat Harley cylinders and heads so it can take a
fair amount of heat.
Rick
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: N number reservation |
I just called mine "Gene Rambo Pietenpol Aircamper" with serial number
1.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: John Recine<mailto:AmsafetyC@aol.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
"=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?="
<AmsafetyC@aol.com<mailto:AmsafetyC@aol.com>>
I remember reading this once before but couldn't seem to locate the
instructions on the submission. Not to over think the process, do you
need to provide a serial number and if so what is the required format
for that? Assuming that we create our own SN
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Gene Rambo" <generambo@msn.com<mailto:generambo@msn.com>>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:46:41
To:<pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your
$5 and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while
under construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That
way, you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry
about losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final
inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been
registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of
a pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: HelsperSew@aol.com<mailto:HelsperSew@aol.com>
<mailto:HelsperSew@aol.com<mailto:HelsperSew@aol.com>>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Tim,
I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I
could have had 1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what
I got.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat heat question |
even if the powder coat can take the heat, you should make a small
shield of stainless steel and clamp it to the mount tube between the
exhaust and the mount.
Gene
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From: Rick Holland<mailto:at7000ft@gmail.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
Question for any powder coat experts out there - have a powder coated
engine mount and the way my Corvair engine is sitting with the exhaust
pipe taking a hard 90 degree bend from the end of the manifold the pipe
will come within about a half inch of one of the powder coated engine
mount tubes. Question is how much heat can the powder coating take? The
guys at the shop that do the coating said that they coat Harley
cylinders and heads so it can take a fair amount of heat.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion |
Early on I was wondering about the Corvair hype. My Mentor set me straight
on that. The HP's everyone is talking about is up into the higher RPM range.
In the range of an A-65 Continental, the corvair is the same or less. And in
my book, there is nothing more reliable than a 65.
Guess many have used them, but think they had to go to a shorter prop, so
the tips don't reach super-sonic.
You can go to this site to see many dyno tests of various Corvairs, and see
to get 95-100hp, you need to spin a prop at approx 3500 rpm
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/specs.html
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"If you look for a reason not to,,,You'll find it"
----- Original Message -----
From: "bhassel" <bob@cozyworld.net>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Acceptable Engine Confusion
>
> I've received my Piet plans and manual and have read through them. It
> seems that the Corvair is an acceptable alternative.
>
> The GN-1 plans however say that a Corvair engine doesn't have enough
> thrust.
>
> I know that the Corvair was an alternative to the Ford Model A and others
> but does it develop enough thrust? Do the Continentals and Lyco's develop
> more thrust?
>
> I'm on the heavy side and will be flying out of airports that are high
> altitude 6,500 ft and up.
>
> What's the 'collective' wisdom?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173367#173367
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat heat question |
HI Rick, I worried about that type of exhaust a long time due to the
heat burnout at the 90 degree bend. I finally went to SS header similar
to Mark Langfords KR. It looks great and is a lot lighter by a few lbs.
See you at sun n fun? I am almost ready to start covering. Gardiner
Mason
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
Question for any powder coat experts out there - have a powder coated
engine mount and the way my Corvair engine is sitting with the exhaust
pipe taking a hard 90 degree bend from the end of the manifold the pipe
will come within about a half inch of one of the powder coated engine
mount tubes. Question is how much heat can the powder coating take? The
guys at the shop that do the coating said that they coat Harley
cylinders and heads so it can take a fair amount of heat.
Rick
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat heat question |
Yes Gardiner, I will be there Fri and Sat. and I will look you.
Rick
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Gardiner Mason <airlion@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> HI Rick, I worried about that type of exhaust a long time due to the heat
> burnout at the 90 degree bend. I finally went to SS header similar to Mark
> Langfords KR. It looks great and is a lot lighter by a few lbs. See you at
> sun n fun? I am almost ready to start covering. Gardiner Mason
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:35 PM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
>
> Question for any powder coat experts out there - have a powder coated
> engine mount and the way my Corvair engine is sitting with the exhaust pipe
> taking a hard 90 degree bend from the end of the manifold the pipe will come
> within about a half inch of one of the powder coated engine mount tubes.
> Question is how much heat can the powder coating take? The guys at the shop
> that do the coating said that they coat Harley cylinders and heads so it can
> take a fair amount of heat.
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat heat question |
Rick, I will be camping out under the wing of my cessna 140 N3533V in
the vintage camping area. Gardiner
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
Yes Gardiner, I will be there Fri and Sat. and I will look you.
Rick
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Gardiner Mason
<airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:
HI Rick, I worried about that type of exhaust a long time due to the
heat burnout at the 90 degree bend. I finally went to SS header similar
to Mark Langfords KR. It looks great and is a lot lighter by a few lbs.
See you at sun n fun? I am almost ready to start covering. Gardiner
Mason
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From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
Question for any powder coat experts out there - have a powder
coated engine mount and the way my Corvair engine is sitting with the
exhaust pipe taking a hard 90 degree bend from the end of the manifold
the pipe will come within about a half inch of one of the powder coated
engine mount tubes. Question is how much heat can the powder coating
take? The guys at the shop that do the coating said that they coat
Harley cylinders and heads so it can take a fair amount of heat.
Rick
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Yeah, I have the WW conversion manual and a lead on a couple of Vair engines.
Even having someone else build them gets me into the air cheaper than a Conty
(if I could find one).
I was wondering why the discrepancy between the two plan sets and if it would work
for me. I won't be dong a lot of solo work.
There is a gentleman up the road in Salida (sp) Co that is using a turbo Subie
so I'll try and contact him as well.
Looking at the graphs in the link provided it appears I'll at least equal the hp
with the 100hp OT10 Vair that I'd have in a Continental; though slinging a bigger
prop would be nice.
Thanks,
Bob
Santa Fe, NM
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| Subject: | engine choices (was Acceptable Engine Confusion) |
Bob;
I have a very good friend, Jeff Scott, in Los Alamos. He's an A&P as well as an
EAA Tech Counselor and flies a KR-2S out of Los Alamos. You might get his opinion
on powerplants for use in your area because he has told me on many occasions
that he feels that an A65 or an A75 is just not enough power for the higher
elevations, especially in the summertime. That's the reason why John Dilatush
installed the turbo Subaru on his Piet- when you get a density altitude in
the high four figures (or five figures, as you can get in Salida in the summer
and probably in Los Alamos as well), you need "more".
Jeff is very active in the EAA chapter there and you shouldn't have any trouble
locating him.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
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website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Thanks - I'll look hime up!
Bob
Santa Fe, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion |
Bob,
The turbo Subaru that was previously owned by John Dilatush in Salida, CO is
now owned by Greg Bacon in Prairie Home, MO
Greg is not currently on this list.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "bhassel" <bob@cozyworld.net>
>
> Yeah, I have the WW conversion manual and a lead on a couple of Vair
> engines. Even having someone else build them gets me into the air cheaper
> than a Conty (if I could find one).
>
> I was wondering why the discrepancy between the two plan sets and if it
> would work for me. I won't be dong a lot of solo work.
>
> There is a gentleman up the road in Salida (sp) Co that is using a turbo
> Subie so I'll try and contact him as well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
> Santa Fe, NM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion |
Bob
John who built the turbo Subaru Piet sold it a couple years ago to someone
in the midwest, but he would probably help you with an engine decision if
you can contact him. A turbo something would be the way to go at the
altitudes we will be flying.
Rick
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:37 PM, bhassel <bob@cozyworld.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I have the WW conversion manual and a lead on a couple of Vair
> engines. Even having someone else build them gets me into the air cheaper
> than a Conty (if I could find one).
>
> I was wondering why the discrepancy between the two plan sets and if it
> would work for me. I won't be dong a lot of solo work.
>
> There is a gentleman up the road in Salida (sp) Co that is using a turbo
> Subie so I'll try and contact him as well.
>
> Looking at the graphs in the link provided it appears I'll at least equal
> the hp with the 100hp OT10 Vair that I'd have in a Continental; though
> slinging a bigger prop would be nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
> Santa Fe, NM
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173506#173506
>
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coat heat question |
I work in a plant that powder coats shelving. The oven is set for 350
degrees. So it must melt somewhere below that.
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