Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 03/30/08


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:18 AM -  (Douwe Blumberg)
     2. 05:55 AM - more on engine choice (walt evans)
     3. 06:03 AM - Re: Powder coat heat question (Ryan Mueller)
     4. 10:36 AM - Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (bhassel)
     5. 01:53 PM - Re: Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion (Rick Holland)
     6. 02:53 PM - Re: Homemade Turnbuckles (Thomas Bernie)
     7. 07:17 PM - Re: engine choices (was Acceptable Engine Confusion) (bhassel)
     8. 07:19 PM - Re: Homemade Turnbuckles (Owen Davies)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:18:25 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject:
    Hey guys, Was down near Louisville yesterday poking around Clark Cty airport in southern Indiana looking at planes with my wife. We poked out head in a large public hangar and guess what we saw? A pretty little Piet. Looked pretty new, blue fuse with yellow wings and a continental. Nicely built, very simple and true. Can't remember the name on the reg plate, but wanted to see if he (Robert ???) was on the list. Very fun to find one in amongst the spam cans, kinda like a breath of fresh air. Douwe


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    Time: 05:55:01 AM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: more on engine choice
    I think it far more important to build a light plane, than build a heavy one and just add more HP. My Piet is 99% built exactly to the plans, and quite light. When I take my friend Bob up, and he weighs around 180, I can see the drastic difference in climb. Couldn't imagine haveing an extra 180lbs built into the Piet, and then adding Bob. With me alone, with the A65, I cruise in the low 80's. (checked with GPS). Now add Bob, and I'm down to mid 70's. If I add a 180lbs of structure, and more fuel, don't know what speed I'd see. My opinion to the "looking for more Horsepower Guys" is to not add stuff on and make it too heavy. Build to the plans Walt Evans NX140DL "If you look for a reason not to,,,You'll find it"


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    Time: 06:03:39 AM PST US
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Powder coat heat question
    Poking around on the net led me to a page for a company called East Coast Powder Coating. In their warranty section they mention the following: "Not responsible for burnt powder coating if temperature(s) exceed the maximum powder coating temperature limit(s) (1000 for high temp powders - 300 for all other powders) once part(s) have been installed or used." VAHOWDY@aol.com wrote: I work in a plant that powder coats shelving. The oven is set for 350 degrees. So it must melt somewhere below that. --------------------------------- Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.


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    Time: 10:36:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion
    From: "bhassel" <bob@cozyworld.net>
    Sorry to hear that Piet is no longer - just up the road! So much for a planned trip. I had thought of a turbo due to the altitude and my own weight (230). After following John Slade's efforts on his turbo'd rotary Cozy MK IV I've learned that you can't use the standard car setup at least for long. They're setup up for short usage durations and at much higher rpm's than I'd be using. hmmm...maybe a twin engined Piet... [Shocked] Bob Santa Fe, NM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173696#173696


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    Time: 01:53:46 PM PST US
    From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Acceptable Engine Confusion
    WW has flight tested a turbo Corvair engine, you can see the description of it on his website. http://www.flycorvair.com Rick On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:31 AM, bhassel <bob@cozyworld.net> wrote: > > Sorry to hear that Piet is no longer - just up the road! So much for a > planned trip. > > I had thought of a turbo due to the altitude and my own weight (230). > After following John Slade's efforts on his turbo'd rotary Cozy MK IV I've > learned that you can't use the standard car setup at least for long. > They're setup up for short usage durations and at much higher rpm's than > I'd be using. > > hmmm...maybe a twin engined Piet... [Shocked] > > Bob > Santa Fe, NM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173696#173696 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado


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    Time: 02:53:49 PM PST US
    From: Thomas Bernie <tsbernie@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Homemade Turnbuckles
    Bill, I did my turnbuckles in a similar fashion (independently). Tom Bernie Gloucester, Mass On Mar 28, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Bill Church wrote: > A few days ago Santiago posted a couple of links to the Flitzer > website. There are a lot of good construction ideas there. I've been > looking through different builder's sites, and noticed that the > Flitzer incorporates homemade turnbuckles for the drag and anti-drag > wires. At first I thought "that's simple - what a great idea". But > after looking at the (very low resolution) photos, I'm having a hard > time to figure out how they would work. Specifically, how would you > adjust the tension when the turnbuckle is installed? They appear to > have a short section of threaded rod joining the two halves, but to > lengthen or shorten the overall length, one would need to disconnect > the turnbuckle from one end, and rotate one end of the assembly. > Unless that isn't a threaded rod, but rather, a machine screw, but > then - how do you get a tool in there to turn the screw? I think > that this is likely the case, and perhaps there is enough room to > get a small allen key in there. I don't see any safety wires in the > photos > Anyone out there know any more about these fittings? > > Bill C. > <dragwires3.jpg><turnbuckle 1.jpg><turnbuckle 2.jpg> Thomas Bernie tsbe


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    Time: 07:17:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine choices (was Acceptable Engine Confusion)
    From: "bhassel" <bob@cozyworld.net>
    Thanks for the tip on Jeff! I was able to get a hold of hi this evening. It looks like I'll also be joining his EAA chapter. Thanks again! Bob Santa Fe, NM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173796#173796


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    Time: 07:19:42 PM PST US
    From: Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Homemade Turnbuckles
    Thomas Bernie wrote: > I did my turnbuckles in a similar fashion (independently). How do you tighten them? There isn't much clearance to get a wrench in, much less actually turn the nut. Owen




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