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1. 08:23 AM - Sun n Fun (ALAN LYSCARS)
2. 11:41 AM - Re: Sun n Fun (Ben Charvet)
3. 11:58 AM - Re: Sun n Fun (Jim Ash)
4. 02:34 PM - Re: Sun n Fun (Ryan Michals)
5. 03:57 PM - Sky Scout for sale (Brian Kraut)
6. 05:47 PM - Is this a Pietenpol 2? (Michael Silvius)
7. 06:20 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? (Rick Holland)
8. 06:33 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? (Michael Silvius)
9. 06:43 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? (Brian Kraut)
10. 07:25 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? (Owen Davies)
11. 07:43 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? (bhassel)
12. 07:48 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol? (bhassel)
13. 07:49 PM - Re: Corvair engines (bhassel)
14. 09:37 PM - Bad news - broken fuel tank fitting & warning to builders (Steve Ruse)
15. 11:44 PM - Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? (Rob Stapleton, Jr.)
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Boys:
Anybody, besides myself, flying out commercial tomorrow? I'm leaving
Manchester-Boston Southwest Air @0745.
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
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I;ll be there Thursday and Friday, but I only need to drive 2 hrs to get
there :-)
I'll check in at the woodworking tent every day.
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
ALAN LYSCARS wrote:
> Boys:
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> Anybody, besides myself, flying out commercial tomorrow? I'm leaving
> Manchester-Boston Southwest Air @0745.
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> Al Lyscars
> Manchester, NH
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Flew out MHT-MCO, o-dark 30 yesterday (Sat 4/5). Setting up the workshop now.
Jim Ash
-----Original Message-----
>From: ALAN LYSCARS <alyscars@verizon.net>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 11:20 AM
>To: Piet List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun
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>Boys:
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>Anybody, besides myself, flying out commercial tomorrow? I'm leaving Manchester-Boston
Southwest Air @0745.
>
>Al Lyscars
>Manchester, NH
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I'll be there at some point.
Ryan
Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I;ll be there Thursday and Friday, but I only need to drive 2 hrs to get
there :-)
I'll check in at the woodworking tent every day.
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
ALAN LYSCARS wrote:
> Boys:
>
> Anybody, besides myself, flying out commercial tomorrow? I'm leaving
> Manchester-Boston Southwest Air @0745.
>
> Al Lyscars
> Manchester, NH
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| Subject: | Sky Scout for sale |
I finally made a web page for my Sky Scout project. I want to finish it,
but I have nine other airplane projects I am working on right now and
another new one coming in two weeks. If it does not sell I will finish it.
It is #3 in line right now behind a Monerai motor glider that will be ready
in two to three weeks and a customer's KR-2 project. Possibly I will have a
customer Pitts project and a couple of RVs jumping ahead of it also soon.
The web site is at:
http://www.engalt.com/pietenpol_sky_scout_project.htm
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
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| Subject: | Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
Wow, that is some drastic mods to the original plans (but some beautiful
work), don't want to hear anyone give any builders grief for changing their
wingspan by a couple inches after seeing this.
Rick
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net> wrote:
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
By the way that photo was from a Sport Aviation with a date of Feb 1982
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Is this a Pietenpol 2?
Wow, that is some drastic mods to the original plans (but some
beautiful work), don't want to hear anyone give any builders grief for
changing their wingspan by a couple inches after seeing this.
Rick
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net>
wrote:
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
Sure looks nice. I like the looks a lot more than a standard Piet.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael
Silvius
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Is this a Pietenpol 2?
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| Subject: | Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
Michael Silvius wrote:
[insert photo/cap here]
Gee, I'd always wondered about doing that! Now let's go to a more modern
airfoil and a Corvair engine, and maybe reinforce the wing to make it
cantilever, and....
Actually, I love this idea.
Owen
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| Subject: | Re: Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
Don't stop there Owen! Sounds like a great set of ideas!
Bob
Santa Fe
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175173#175173
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| Subject: | Re: Is this a Pietenpol? |
I don't know - maybe a St Croix???
Bob
Santa Fe
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engines |
Just curious - what a re the model numbers?
Bob
Santa Fe, NM
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| Subject: | Bad news - broken fuel tank fitting & warning to builders |
First I guess I should state that I am a non-builder owner. I bought my
GN-1 3 years ago, and have flown it around 300hrs. It has about 500hrs
total time, and has been a great plane.
I took a friend up for a brief flight this evening, and when we landed I
started removing all of my fuel lines and fittings, I intend to replace
the rubber lines with stainless braided lines. My fuel tank is a
fiberglass 18.3 gallon tank in the nose. I was pulling the fuel line
off the nipple on the fuel valve at the bottom of the tank, and the
entire fuel valve, strainer, and all fittings broke right off the bottom
of the tank! This left the ~3/8" hole in the bottom of the tank wide
open, which poured some fuel into the cockpit until I was able to stick
my finger in the hole. I was working through an inspection hole on the
side of the fuse directly behind the firewall. There were at least 12
gallons of fuel in the tank, which we had to empty using a coffee can,
one can at a time. Luckily I had a friend there with me, I would've
been in trouble if I had been working alone like I usually am. As you
can imagine, this situation in itself created a fire hazard in the
hangar.
I was not using excessive force on the fuel line, a moderate kick by the
passenger would've had the same effect. It would've resulting in
immediate engine failure, a forced landing, and the emptying of the fuel
tank into the cockpit! A very, very bad situation! That is something
for builders to take note of, make sure your fuel fittings are very,
very sturdy! I was replacing the rubber fuel lines with stainless
braided lines to increase the strength of the whole system, little did I
know that the fuel tank fitting probably had less than 10% of the
strength of the rubber fuel lines that were installed.
Attached are three pictures of the broken fitting, as well as one
picture of the fitting I had taken several weeks ago to help me decide
what I needed to do to change the valve and hoses. As you can see, the
fitting and strainer were held to the tank only by a large glob of
fiberglass resin. There was no fiber in this glob, so the mechanical
bond to the tank was relatively weak. The "blob" was also placed on the
tank after the tank had cured, so the resins were not actually mixed,
the blob was just "stuck" on the cured tank. This was the only
mechanical bond between the tank fitting and the tank.
Now, I need to determine what to do to get the plane airworthy. I can
build another tank, or I could try to determine a way to attach my new
fuel valve to the old tank. Of course, my primary concern is being able
to attach the valve in a very secure manner. I believe replacing the
tank would legally require a new restricted fly-off period by the local
FSDO as it is a major change. I belive replacing the the existing fuel
valve would not require a new fly-off period.
Any tips anyone can give me on a good method to secure a new valve to
the existing tank would be greatly appreciated. I fly this plane a lot,
and flying season is here so I hate to have it down, but repairing it
properly and safely is my primary concern. I would like the new valve
to be mounted to the tank using a method that is strong enough that it
would damage the tank before the fitting would just fall off like this.
I will remove the tank this week and post a few pictures.
Thanks for any suggestions or input!
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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| Subject: | Is this a Pietenpol 2? |
This is a really cool example of home building.
Thanks,
Rob
Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist
Anchorage, Alaska
907-230-9425
KL2AN
Skype:rob.stapleton.jr
IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Silvius
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Is this a Pietenpol 2?
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