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1. 10:02 AM - Re: Cubs and Champs (MikeD)
2. 11:27 AM - Re: georgia piets anyone? (Gardiner Mason)
3. 11:38 AM - Spar Butt Joint Help (Jack T. Textor)
4. 01:17 PM - Re: Spar Butt Joint Help (Ben Charvet)
5. 01:56 PM - Re: Spar Butt Joint Help (Jack T. Textor)
6. 06:42 PM - one piece wing (Gene Rambo)
7. 08:53 PM - Re: Spar Butt Joint Help (Richard Schreiber)
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Subject: | Re: Cubs and Champs |
michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov wrote:
> Gary,
> You don't have shoulder
> harnesses ? You do what they did in the old days--you fly with one
> hand and before 'landing'
> you straight arm the panel with the other. Sounds crude but it beats
> getting smashed up in the
> head.
I'm not convinced it would really do much for you in any kind of a significant
thump except get your arm broken up before cracking your noggin.. would it?
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Subject: | Re: georgia piets anyone? |
John , I am building a piet in Lagrange, Ga. I will be glad to have you
visit if you like. It is an hour SW on I 85. Gardiner Mason. 706 594
3811
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: georgia piets anyone?
I am working in the greater Atlanta area next week for a few days and
wanted to visit a Piet, anyone interested?
Please advise
Thanks
John Recine
NX895BP reserved
In a message dated 4/10/2008 3:27:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
timothywillis@earthlink.net writes:
<timothywillis@earthlink.net>
The Piet has more drag than most, if not all of the planes flying VW
engines. There is not enough HP left after the Piet's drag to lift a
fully loaded Piet well, and the climb rate should be miserable. There
has been enough recent discussion about safe loads and climbing rates,
clearing trees and steeples, etc. in A-65 Piets on warm days.
The few CH601s or the exceptional Cub with a VW engine are much
heavier than the planes that usually have a VW engine, like a Flybaby or
a Volksplane. Still, they have less drag than a Piet. Moreover, the
usual planes with VW engines are single place. I don't think that the
guys offering the CH601-701-801s recommend any VW engines for their
planes.
I have seen "never a VW" discussions in the Piet matronics archives.
I've never seen anyone justify its use on a Piet. Lastly, I don't
think any experienced aviator or builder would recommend using a VW on a
Piet. That doesn't mean that someone hasn't tried it, though. And it
might work OK on a single-place Scout with Riblett wings.
You'd still have weight and balance problems, though, as pointed
out.
To me, the VW engine on a Piet sounds like a good way to end up as
an FAA statistic one warm day.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Abramson <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
>Sent: Apr 10, 2008 12:58 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine choices
>
>Not enough weight.....
>
>DIT-VIT
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> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Milt
Atkinson
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine choices
>
>
> Has anyone considered or accomplished the use of a VW engine?
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> What are the pros and cons?
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> Milt Atkinson
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Subject: | Spar Butt Joint Help |
Hello all,
Need some help please. I'm building the three piece wing. Looking at
the attached picture, do I have to route out the semi-circle, pointed
out by the pencil? It seems so for the straps to clear the spar 3/32
doubler.
Thanks,
Jack
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Subject: | Re: Spar Butt Joint Help |
Hi Jack,
I discovered that problem after I'd already glued the doublers in place,
bolted everything up and trammeled my wing. I was able to cut it out
with a chisel. I pre-cut my doublers for the second wing. Making the
second wing goes much faster, after you learn all these little tricks.
Dick Navratil could probably tell us exactly, but I think building a
second Piet would take about 1/4 as much time.
Ben
Jack T. Textor wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Need some help please. Im building the three piece wing. Looking at
> the attached picture, do I have to route out the semi-circle, pointed
> out by the pencil? It seems so for the straps to clear the spar 3/32
> doubler.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
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Subject: | Spar Butt Joint Help |
Boy that's the truth Ben. Even after watching the list and trying to
look forward for obstacles I still hit a lot of snags. Just today I
repositioned my outer tip braces because they interfered with the drag
wires. Thanks for the help!
Jack
Jack Textor
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben
Charvet
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spar Butt Joint Help
<bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
Hi Jack,
I discovered that problem after I'd already glued the doublers in place,
bolted everything up and trammeled my wing. I was able to cut it out
with a chisel. I pre-cut my doublers for the second wing. Making the
second wing goes much faster, after you learn all these little tricks.
Dick Navratil could probably tell us exactly, but I think building a
second Piet would take about 1/4 as much time.
Ben
Jack T. Textor wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Need some help please. I'm building the three piece wing. Looking at
> the attached picture, do I have to route out the semi-circle, pointed
> out by the pencil? It seems so for the straps to clear the spar 3/32
> doubler.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
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I need to talk to anyone who has built, or is building, a one piece
wing. Please contact me offline and I will exchange phone numbers so we
can talk a bit.
Gene
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Subject: | Spar Butt Joint Help |
Jack,
Thats what I did. I didn't discover the problem until I went to slide the spar
into position. I just used a Dremmel with a router attachment to relieve the are
you are pointing to.
Rick Schreiber
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
Sent: 4/13/2008 1:48:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spar Butt Joint Help
Hello all,
Need some help please. Im building the three piece wing. Looking at the attached
picture, do I have to route out the semi-circle, pointed out by the pencil?
It seems so for the straps to clear the spar 3/32 doubler.
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
Vice President
3737 Woodland Avenue
Suite #300
West Des Moines, IA 50266
515-225-7000
www.thepalmergroup.com
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