---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/16/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:42 AM - Re: Dual Time (Milt Atkinson) 2. 05:53 AM - Re: Dual Time (Peter W Johnson) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Dual Time (Glenn Thomas) 4. 11:42 AM - Re: Dual Time (gswartley) 5. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: Dual Time (Peter W Johnson) 6. 06:09 PM - Re: one piece wing (Dick Navratil) 7. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Center wing question.. polished aluminum and wood OK? (Dick Navratil) 8. 07:44 PM - Re: Center wing question.. polished aluminum and wood OK? (jimd) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:21 AM PST US From: "Milt Atkinson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dual Time Any reason for changing the wheels? Was it part of the being "squirrelly" ? Milt Atkinson From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dual Time Hi Guys, What a difference some duel time makes! I changed the wheels on my Piet to 6 x 8.00 aircraft wheels instead of the 24 inch wire ones. On Monday I had some dual time with an experienced tail wheel pilot/instructor. The difference is very noticeable. Going from "this airplane is squirrelly" to "very docile, nice flyer". The Corvair handled the passenger (first time with two people on board) with no problems. The temps are all very good now, even a bit cold. The oil pressure worries me a little because it is getting too high! On climb out (around 3000 rpm) on a cool morning I can see between 60 and 80 psi. I'll have to take it for a long fly and see what happens when the engine is really warm. I did some more circuit work this morning and found things a lot easier. I still have the adrenaline rush on a good landing but feel far more in control. I have just ordered a Zodiac 601 XL kit so no doubt that will have a Corvair on the front of it. Check out the web site for some new pictures. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com Checked by AVG. 15/04/2008 6:10 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:15 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dual Time Milt, Yes, being a low time tail wheel pilot, I found the large spoke wheels had no give and would do what they liked. The soft 8.00 tires on the 6 inch wheels are have much more give and seem to be more controllable. Dual time has helped as well (probably more than the wheels!!!). Cheers Peter. Wonthaggi Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Milt Atkinson Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2008 10:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dual Time Any reason for changing the wheels? Was it part of the being =93squirrelly=94 ? Milt Atkinson From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dual Time Hi Guys, What a difference some duel time makes! I changed the wheels on my Piet to 6 x 8.00 aircraft wheels instead of the 24 inch wire ones. On Monday I had some dual time with an experienced tail wheel pilot/instructor. The difference is very noticeable. Going from =93this airplane is squirrelly=94 to =93very docile, nice flyer=94. The Corvair handled the passenger (first time with two people on board) with no problems. The temps are all very good now, even a bit cold. The oil pressure worries me a little because it is getting too high! On climb out (around 3000 rpm) on a cool morning I can see between 60 and 80 psi. I=92ll have to take it for a long fly and see what happens when the engine is really warm. I did some more circuit work this morning and found things a lot easier. I still have the adrenaline rush on a good landing but feel far more in control. I have just ordered a Zodiac 601 XL kit so no doubt that will have a Corvair on the front of it. Check out the web site for some new pictures. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com Checked by AVG. 15/04/2008 6:10 PM http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"http://www.matronics.c om/ Navigator?Pietenpol-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion 7.5.519 / Checked by AVG. 15/04/2008 6:10 PM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dual Time From: "Glenn Thomas" Hi Peter, This may or may not be a ridiculous question, since I'm not a pilot yet. You said it went from "squirrely" to "docile flyer". Did you see a change in the way the plane flies or was it mostly the ground handling improvements you were referring to? -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177186#177186 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:22 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dual Time From: "gswartley" Peter Great the here your flying!! I'm not building a Piet yet, but I watched your build via the internet and have not seen any updates to your site in a while and was worried you might have thrown in the towel. Glad to here your heat troubles are behind. Hope the Piet brings you joy for years to come and thanks for the great motivational site. Gregg -------- Gregg Swartley RV-9 Wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177241#177241 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:45 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dual Time Glenn, Ground handling. The Piet has always handled well in the air. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Thomas Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2008 12:17 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dual Time Hi Peter, This may or may not be a ridiculous question, since I'm not a pilot yet. You said it went from "squirrely" to "docile flyer". Did you see a change in the way the plane flies or was it mostly the ground handling improvements you were referring to? -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177186#177186 Checked by AVG. 6:10 PM Checked by AVG. 6:10 PM ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:00 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: one piece wing Gene I have built both the one and three piece wing. Your e mail address didnt appear on your post. You can mail me back at horzpool@goldengate.net Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: one piece wing I need to talk to anyone who has built, or is building, a one piece wing. Please contact me offline and I will exchange phone numbers so we can talk a bit. Gene ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:40 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center wing question.. polished aluminum and wood OK? Jim and all I just got back from Sun n Fun and am going thru 600+ e mails. The finish on my plane Fuselage and wing center section are wood covered with 2 oz. fiberglass cloth. I used 207 hardner with the West system epoxy and applied 3 finishing coats. Then I applied 4 coats of Marine Spar Varnish for UV protection on all wood surfaces. The wings are covered with Stits Poly fiber using clear Poly Brush as a base, then multiple coats of clear Poly Tone paint with an added pigment. Stits furnished me with UV additive for the paint. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimd" Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center wing question.. polished aluminum and wood OK? > > Dick's plane looks like it is fabric covered ... only with fabric that > looks like wood, much like the rest of the plane, so not shure about that > one. > > To have a removable wood section of thin plywood.. did you have to do > anything to beef it up? What about UV protection.. is it painted? Was > hoping to keep the natural wood finish somehow. > > No doubt I should have asked first and polished the aluminum later.. will > say it was far more work than I had anticipated. > > Thought about giving it a number of coats of the clear coat from the T-88 > folks, would toughen it up, but not sure it can handle UV. > > Seen Piets with wood landing gear, wood exterior sides, wood floors, etc. > but not wood finished center sections.. even though most of them were wood > there. > > Jim > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=176824#176824 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center wing question.. polished aluminum and wood OK? From: "jimd" Thanks for the info. I had thought of using the system 3 (T-88 people) clear coat, and possibly with some kind of glass or fabric on the backside(hidden part) of the wood to strengthen it, but still was concerned about UV. Will look in to what you used. Love your plane, looks great. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177328#177328 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.