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1. 04:50 AM - Alliance, OH Fly In (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
2. 07:05 AM - Re: wing rib brads - Bingelis articles available (John Egan)
3. 07:28 AM - Re:Bingelis articles available (TOM STINEMETZE)
4. 10:01 AM - Re: Alliance, OH Fly In (Steve Eldredge)
5. 10:41 AM - Re: wing rib brads (chase143)
6. 02:12 PM - Re: Alliance, OH Fly In (Don Emch)
7. 06:27 PM - Having hard time (Milt Atkinson)
8. 07:09 PM - Re: Having hard time (Peter W Johnson)
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| Subject: | Alliance, OH Fly In |
Nice list of guys there Don E. I wonder if Fantastic Frank Paviliga
will have his
Warner powered (that he acquired from Lowell Frank) Sky Gypsy back in
the air by then ?
Sounds like he's making good progress on the recovering process, new
cowlings made,
new windshields. For those who don't know, Frank's 65 Cont. powered
Piet will now
sport a Warner radial, wire wheels (black, uncovered) and a fairly
standard BHP paint
scheme if I remember correctly. No one will recognize this one after
her extreme
makeover.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: wing rib brads - Bingelis articles available |
Piet Builders - Through your EAA membership, you are able to view on line,
many articles written by Tony Bingelis regarding homebuilding techniques.
- The articles are accompanied with the same diagrams as in his books.-
Follow the path below. =0Ago to:=0Awww.eea.org=0A--- member services
=0A--- --- member benfits=0A--- --- --- commu
nity (in blue box on the right side of the page)=0A--- --- -
-- --- homebuilding=0A--- --- --- --- -
-- articles (on the left side of the page)=0A--- --- --
- --- --- --- then you need to log in as an "EAA member
" (your membership fee gives you access)=0A--- --- ---
--- --- --- --- then you can select the articles yo
u want to read=0AThis information may provide folks with good reading while
waiting at airports on bussiness trips-as-some of you travel, or to vi
ew the contents of the books. - Have fun.=0A=0Ajohn=0A----- Original Mess
age ----=0AFrom: Glenn Thomas <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-
list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:28:29 PM=0ASubject: Re: P
ietenpol-List: wing rib brads=0A=0A=0AAccording to Mr. Bingelis, the nails
are of absolutely no consequence once the glue has dried (excuse me, ...cur
ed).- All the strength of a joint is attributed to the adhesive.- In my
opinion (only my opinion) if I can save a few ounces here and there, I wou
ld remove the nails.- The theme "think light" has come up many times and
that is my intention.- I'm trying to build the whole plane with no nails.
- Clamps for wing ribs are not that hard to make.- I think if lightness
is a primary objective you will achieve it by default by simply looking at
each piece you build and asking yourself if there will be a weight penalty
for your decision.=0A-=0AAgain, just my humble opinion.- =0A-=0ASome
people hestitate to take passengers over 180 lbs up for rides.- Walt Eva
ns took my fat butt (212 lbs) up for a ride in his-plane without hestitat
ion because his plane is LIGHT.- 595 lbs. ...and climbed nicely.- I thi
nk as soon as you start making allowances (a pound here, five pounds there)
it-can become a habit.=0A-=0AJust my non-flying,-Pietenpol forum gai
ned, $0.02 worth.- A pound saved is a pound earned.=0A=0A-=0AOn 5/12/08
, Ted White <tankertoad1@suddenlink.net> wrote: =0A--> Pietenpol-List messa
ge posted by: "Ted White" <tankertoad1@suddenlink.net>=0A=0Amost of the bui
lders logs I have researched noted that after the gussets had dried, the br
ads were removed. Why not leave them in?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onli
ne here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=182680#182680
=0A=0A-- =0AGlenn Thomas=0AStorrs, CT=0Ahttp://www.flyingwood.com =0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re:Bingelis articles available |
John:
Thanks for that link to the Bingellis articles! Mike Cuy talked me
into buying the whole set of Bingellis books early on in my project and
I have spent countless hours reading in them since. What's more, his
information is accurate and valuable. (Not that I want my boss to catch
me reading these articles at WORK you understand.)
Tom Stinemetze
do not archive
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| Subject: | Alliance, OH Fly In |
Engine I can understand, but why the recover and new paint?
Stevee
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alliance, OH Fly In
Nice list of guys there Don E. I wonder if Fantastic Frank Paviliga
will have his
Warner powered (that he acquired from Lowell Frank) Sky Gypsy back in
the air by then ?
Sounds like he's making good progress on the recovering process, new
cowlings made,
new windshields. For those who don't know, Frank's 65 Cont. powered
Piet will now
sport a Warner radial, wire wheels (black, uncovered) and a fairly
standard BHP paint
scheme if I remember correctly. No one will recognize this one after
her extreme
makeover.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: wing rib brads |
Just my 2 cents: I followed the lead of several others and built clamps on my jigs.
Having completed approx. 12 ribs so far, I find the joint results extremely
consistent. The clamps have a "feel" for how much pressure is being applied,
preventing joint starvation and of course do not damage the wood in any way.
I'm never in a hurry, but the first side of the rib is glued in under 30 minutes
and the second side in about 15. I have not tried braids, so this info is
just offered for comparison / as another data point.
Also, the clamps/jib were easy and a lot of fun to make!
Steve C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=182966#182966
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| Subject: | Re: Alliance, OH Fly In |
Hey Mike...
He says it should be ready by the first of June. He is a fast worker, that's for
sure. I believe the engine is actually a Lambert. What do you think Mike,
can you make it down? Salem Fly-in is this weekend too.
Don E.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183010#183010
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| Subject: | Having hard time |
Having a hard time getting my hands around a material list for the extended
Air Camper fuselage. There are two drawings and they do not interpolate from
one size to another and then there is the third plan published in the 1932
'Flying and Glider Manual'. Some have sent me a started spread sheet, but it
was not complete nor did I know if it was the extended version or not.
I am just wanting to do the fuselage for now and leave the wing and tail
section for this coming winter.
I was wanting to leave the sides of the fuselage open until and rigging and
plumbing was done, so I don't have to order the full sheets of plywood now .
the longerons would be the only thing that would require special shipping.
Does anyone have a "complete" material list that they would not mine
sharing?
Milt Atkinson
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| Subject: | Having hard time |
Milt,
Check out my web site (HYPERLINK
"http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com). There is a wood
cutting list under =93Services & Suppliers=94 -> =93Material Lists=94.
The list is
for the extended version. The wing spars are box (U) section not routed.
Hope it helps
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Milt
Atkinson
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Having hard time
Having a hard time getting my hands around a material list for the
extended
Air Camper fuselage. There are two drawings and they do not interpolate
from
one size to another and then there is the third plan published in the
1932
=91Flying and Glider Manual=92. Some have sent me a started spread
sheet, but it
was not complete nor did I know if it was the extended version or not.
I am just wanting to do the fuselage for now and leave the wing and tail
section for this coming winter.
I was wanting to leave the sides of the fuselage open until and rigging
and
plumbing was done, so I don=92t have to order the full sheets of plywood
now =85
the longerons would be the only thing that would require special
shipping.
Does anyone have a =93complete=94 material list that they would not mine
sharing?
Milt Atkinson
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