Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 05/15/08


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 02:18 AM - Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? (Steve Glass)
     2. 03:05 AM - Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? (HelsperSew@aol.com)
     3. 05:17 AM - Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? (Richard Schreiber)
     4. 06:07 AM - Re: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? (Brian Kraut)
     5. 09:29 AM - N444MH video (santiago morete)
     6. 09:54 AM - Re: N444MH video (Kirk Huizenga)
     7. 10:03 AM - Re: N444MH video (Kirk Huizenga)
     8. 11:08 AM - Re: N444MH video (Ryan Michals)
     9. 11:14 AM - Re: N444MH video (HelsperSew@aol.com)
    10. 11:42 AM - Re: N444MH video (Jim Markle)
    11. 12:37 PM - Re: N444MH video (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=)
    12. 01:18 PM - Re: N444MH video (Kirk H)
    13. 01:28 PM - Speaking of DVDs (Bill Church)
    14. 01:31 PM - Got my "Finding Flight" DVD today (HelsperSew@aol.com)
    15. 01:38 PM - Re: Speaking of DVDs (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    16. 01:40 PM - Re: Got my "Finding Flight" DVD today (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    17. 01:46 PM - Re: N444MH video (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=)
    18. 02:00 PM - Re: N444MH video (Bill Church)
    19. 04:26 PM - Re: N444MH video (Glenn Thomas)
    20. 06:58 PM - Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? (Dick Navratil)
    21. 07:16 PM - Re: N444MH video (Don Emch)
    22. 08:27 PM - Re: Re: N444MH video (Glenn Thomas)
    23. 09:11 PM - Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? (jimd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:18:20 AM PST US
    From: Steve Glass <redsglass@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood?
    Hello everybody. When I have scarfed thin plywood I make a stack of all the pieces together setting each one back the widith the scarf. I then plan or sand them them a ll at once. This pretty much ensures the angles will all match when you fl ip a piece over and glue them together. Steve in Maine > Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:17:31 -0400 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > From: dmatt@frontiernet.net > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? > net> > > I have done a few scarfs on kayaks in 4 mm okume. The easiest way that I > have found is to use a sharp block plane. Mark a line where you want the > taper to end. That would probably be about 1/2" in for your wood. Set t he > ply with its edge right at the edge of a table and clamp the sheet down > down. Then simply plane it by hand. Clean up with a long sanding block if > needed. It is easier than it sounds. > > Dave > > > At 03:55 PM 5/14/2008, jimd wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > > >Was reading thru EAA's articles on plywood skinning and they mentioned > >that all the joints of your plywood for skinning should be scarfed. Make s > >sense. > > > >Have some 1/16th okoume coming from boulter plywood, and being cut in 8 ft > >strips they will need at least one joint. > > > >If you guys scarfed them.. how? Thats mighty thin material for doing tha t. > > > >I have a shopsmith that I can angle around as a table saw or setup for > >disk sanding or maybe drum, but can't image 1/16 material not chipping o ut > >something terrible. > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183177#183177 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Checked by AVG. > >5/14/2008 7:49 AM > > > > > >incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG. > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 03:05:11 AM PST US
    From: HelsperSew@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood?
    Guys, I did not scarf any plywood. When I nailed/glued the 1/16 ply to the wing, I only lapped one half of the rib width. Then the next piece lapped the other half of the rib width. Worked like a charm. Just like when you put up a piece of drywall on a stud wall, bearing only half of the 2 x 4. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)


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    Time: 05:17:38 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood?
    Thats exactly what I did. Scarfing isn't necessary for the leading edge plywood. Since Bernard originally used cardboard from quaker oats oatmeal tubing, scarfing would have been a little difficult. Getting ready to go out this morning and help a friend cover his Piet. Rick Schreiber. Valparaiso, IN ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 5/15/2008 5:08:22 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? Guys, I did not scarf any plywood. When I nailed/glued the 1/16 ply to the wing, I only lapped one half of the rib width. Then the next piece lapped the other half of the rib width. Worked like a charm. Just like when you put up a piece of drywall on a stud wall, bearing only half of the 2 x 4. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.


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    Time: 06:07:12 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
    Subject: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood?
    I have not been following this thread so someone has probably already posted this, but take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kspars.html for a good way to do the scarfs. I did an almost identical setup with a piece of pine shelf board and my Bosch laminate trimmer and it worked great. I only did 1/8" plywood, but I have no doubt that 1/16" would work just a good. The entire setup probably took me 45 minutes to make and I can set it back up again when I need it in 10 minutes. It worked best for me with the 1/8" ply if I did the cut in two steps (1/4" pieces clamped against the board the router is on then remove them, don't adjust the height of the router). Probably would be just fine to run full depth on one cut on 1/16". Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimd Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:51 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? Thanks for all the replies. I had researched it a bit, and heard of different ways, it just seemed mighty thin to work with. My okoume plywood came from Boulter a few minutes ago. Bought two 4x8 sheets (cut in to 1x8 strips)so if it works out well I can redo my top wing with it instead of the .016 aluminum that is wanting to pop off. Or if doesn't go well I have enough to get it done even with some miss-steps. Presume you varnish or clear coat, the part of the plywood that will be on the inside of the wing ... before softening the outside with water to get it to bend.. then once it is the right shape and dry, you remove the formed piece and do the glue/T-88 and then once that sets you varnish/epoxy/clear coat the outside part of the plywood? Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183213#183213


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    Time: 09:29:55 AM PST US
    From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
    Subject: N444MH video
    Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he made during N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for it. Thanks! Saludos Santiago PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to Brodhead this year __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam gratis! Abr tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar


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    Time: 09:54:51 AM PST US
    From: Kirk Huizenga <kirkh1@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    I would gladly do it - no expense Kirk On May 15, 2008, at 11:25 AM, santiago morete wrote: > Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he made > during N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html > Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for > it. Thanks! > Saludos > > Santiago > > PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to > Brodhead this year > > > __________________________________________________ > Correo Yahoo! > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam =A1gratis! > =A1Abr=ED tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar > >


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    Time: 10:03:42 AM PST US
    From: Kirk Huizenga <kirkh1@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    If any of you have contact with Grant let him know that I would be willing to make him a bunch of DVD copies that he can sell. Kirk On May 15, 2008, at 11:25 AM, santiago morete wrote: > Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he made > during N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html > Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for > it. Thanks! > Saludos > > Santiago > > PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to > Brodhead this year > > > __________________________________________________ > Correo Yahoo! > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam =A1gratis! > =A1Abr=ED tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar > >


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    Time: 11:08:02 AM PST US
    From: Ryan Michals <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    I would like one. Kirk Huizenga <kirkh1@gmail.com> wrote: If any of you have contact with Grant let him know that I would be willing to make him a bunch of DVD copies that he can sell. Kirk On May 15, 2008, at 11:25 AM, santiago morete wrote: Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he made during N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for it. Thanks! Saludos Santiago PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to Brodhead this year __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam gratis! Abr tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:14:36 AM PST US
    From: HelsperSew@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    Put me on the list to buy one from Grant. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)


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    Time: 11:42:34 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    Grant has (apparently) had some copyright issues in the past with his materials and I would be VERY careful about offering to make DVD's for someone (ESPECIALLY if compensation is involved!)....even if that someone got permission from Grant. I would encourage you to personally get permission (in writing) from Grant before making any DVD for anyone. And getting a copy is DEFINITELY worth the effort! I copied the video onto my iPod and love to watch it from time to time. just my .02 worth... Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he made during N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for it. Thanks! Saludos Santiago PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to Brodhead this year


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    Time: 12:37:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    From: "=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=" <AmsafetyC@aol.com>
    Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> To:<pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N444MH video Grant has (apparently) had some copyright issues in the past with his materials and I would be VERY careful about offering to make DVD's for someone (ESPECIALLY if compensation is involved!)....even if that someone got permission from Grant. I would encourage you to personally get permission (in writing) from Grant before makingany DVD for anyone. Andgetting a copy is DEFINITELY worth the effort! I copied the video onto my iPod and love to watch it from time to time. just my .02 worth... Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he madeduring N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html <http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html> Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for it. Thanks! Saludos Santiago PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to Brodhead this year


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    Time: 01:18:40 PM PST US
    From: "Kirk H" <kirkh1@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    Who created the video and did they take other people's photos without permission? Anyone know an email or phone for Grant - or know what the copyright issues were/are? Doesn't seem like a very complex thing. If Grant created the video without using other people's material (or using with permission) he can give the permission to copy. If not, I certainly won't touch it. I'm just saying that technically I can do it without trouble and making some extra DVD's for Grant to sell (if he can legally) only makes sense. Thanks for the heads up Jim Kirk do not archive On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote: > Grant has (apparently) had some copyright issues in the past with his > materials and I would be VERY careful about offering to make DVD's for > someone (ESPECIALLY if compensation is involved!)....even if that someone > got permission from Grant. I would encourage you to personally get > permission (in writing) from Grant before making any DVD for anyone. > > And getting a copy is DEFINITELY worth the effort! I copied the video onto > my iPod and love to watch it from time to time. > > just my .02 worth... > > > Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he made during > N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html > Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for it. > Thanks! > Saludos > > Santiago > > PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to Brodhead this > year > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 01:28:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Speaking of DVDs
    From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    This talk about Grant MacLaren's video reminded me that yesterday when I got home from work, I had a nice surprise waiting for me. It was my copy of the Pietenpol documentary "Finding Flight". The documentary itself is only eleven minutes long, but there are extras as well, including a segment on the Brodhead gathering, a visit to the Fillmore County Museum, and an extended interview with Donald Pietenpol, as well as footage of a bunch of Pietenpols (and a few other vintage planes) taking off, taxying and landing, and the back of my head appears in a couple of scenes, too. This is a professional job, so it's really well done. The cinematography is really nice, and there's nice music too. A nice way to spend an hour. And there are no copyright issues here, just send them your $15 plus shipping&handling and in just a few days you get a nice new DVD that you can watch as many times as you want. Just don't try to make copies... because as Chuck Gantzer says at the beginning of his Piet DVD, "it's also against.....the.......law". Bill C.


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    Time: 01:31:16 PM PST US
    From: HelsperSew@aol.com
    Subject: Got my "Finding Flight" DVD today
    Hi all, I just received my copy of the B.H. Pietenpol documentary "Finding Flight". Can't wait to get home and pop it in the player!! Will give you the review later! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)


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    Time: 01:38:43 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Speaking of DVDs
    I got Chucks, Michael's and now this one. I am curious about any others that may be available. I would love to have a full compliment of Pietenpol videos to add to my Pietenpol video library. It would be nice to know if there is a listing of all the Piet videos available for recopy or purchase to add to my fledgling library of great videos. Anyone have the comprehensive video library list? John In a message dated 5/15/2008 4:29:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eng@canadianrogers.com writes: This talk about Grant MacLaren's video reminded me that yesterday when I got home from work, I had a nice surprise waiting for me. It was my copy of the Pietenpol documentary "Finding Flight". The documentary itself is only eleven minutes long, but there are extras as well, including a segment on the Brodhead gathering, a visit to the Fillmore County Museum, and an extended interview with Donald Pietenpol, as well as footage of a bunch of Pietenpols (and a few other vintage planes) taking off, taxying and landing, and the back of my head appears in a couple of scenes, too. This is a professional job, so it's really well done. The cinematography is really nice, and there's nice music too. A nice way to spend an hour. And there are no copyright issues here, just send them your $15 plus shipping&handling and in just a few days you get a nice new DVD that you can watch as many times as you want. Just don't try to make copies... because as Chuck Gantzer says at the beginning of his Piet DVD, "it's also against.....the.......law". Bill C. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)


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    Time: 01:40:24 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Got my "Finding Flight" DVD today
    Still here in Chicago and my copy came in, I am looking forward to watching that as soon as I get home to Pennsylvania John In a message dated 5/15/2008 4:32:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, HelsperSew@aol.com writes: Hi all, I just received my copy of the B.H. Pietenpol documentary "Finding Flight". Can't wait to get home and pop it in the player!! Will give you the review later! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ____________________________________ Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? _Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food_ (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) . (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)


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    Time: 01:46:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    From: "=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=" <AmsafetyC@aol.com>
    please add me to the list also John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Michals <aircamperace@yahoo.com> To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N444MH video I would like one. Kirk Huizenga <kirkh1@gmail.com> wrote: If any of you have contact with Grant let him know that I would be willing to make him a bunch of DVD copies that he can sell. Kirk On May 15, 2008, at 11:25 AM, santiago morete wrote: Grant MacLaren authorized me to get a copy of the video he madeduring N444MH building http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html <http://users.aol.com/bpanews/video.html> Someone offers to make a DVD copy for me? Off course I will pay for it. Thanks! Saludos Santiago PS:Finally working on the propeller and dreaming of going to Brodhead this year


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    Time: 02:00:26 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    Subject: N444MH video
    Until Grant has authorized Kirk (or someone) to make copies, and has offered them for sale, I don't think there's any point in having a "list". Unless the purpose of the list is to gauge whether there's enough interest out there to make the effort worthwhile. And if that's the case, then add me to the list, too. Bill C.


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    Time: 04:26:52 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    Not trying to be a jerk here. I heard a rumor. Let me say it again, rumor, that Grant operated a newsletter, collected people's subscription money in advance, then abruptly stopped the newsletter and kept all the money. Can anybody simply say, yes, that happened or, no, it didn't? That will help me decide if I want to buy anything from him for quite a few reasons. This and his disappearance from the Pietenpol scene happened before I discovered the project and all the other good people that go along with the Pietenpol experience. Sorry if I am being a dark cloud on a relatively positive topic. On 5/15/08, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Grant has (apparently) had some copyright issues in the past with his > materials and I would be VERY careful about offering to make DVD's for > someone (ESPECIALLY if compensation is involved!)....even if that someone > got permission from Grant. I would encourage you to personally get > permission (in writing) from Grant before making any DVD for anyone. > > And getting a copy is DEFINITELY worth the effort! I copied the video onto > my iPod and love to watch it from time to time. > > just my .02 worth... > > Glenn Thomas Storrs, CT http://www.flyingwood.com


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    Time: 06:58:54 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood?
    In this case I agree. I just butt jointed the plywood on the rib. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Schreiber To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? Thats exactly what I did. Scarfing isn't necessary for the leading edge plywood. Since Bernard originally used cardboard from quaker oats oatmeal tubing, scarfing would have been a little difficult. Getting ready to go out this morning and help a friend cover his Piet. Rick Schreiber. Valparaiso, IN ----- Original Message ----- From: To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: 5/15/2008 5:08:22 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood? Guys, I did not scarf any plywood. When I nailed/glued the 1/16 ply to the wing, I only lapped one half of the rib width. Then the next piece lapped the other half of the rib width. Worked like a charm. Just like when you put up a piece of drywall on a stud wall, bearing only half of the 2 x 4. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.


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    Time: 07:16:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Glenn (and others), Unfortunately, somehow some rumors got started about Grant. Grant is a great guy to those that got to know him through the Buckeye Pietenpol Association. He took over the well established BPA newsletter from Frank Pavliga Sr. He said he would do it for 10 years. That's just what he did. I kept myself paid up for the newsletter and I think there may have been one newsletter at the end that didn't get printed up for what I paid for. Big deal. He wrote a fantastic newsletter for 10 years and put loads and loads of time and research into the Pietenpol stuff. I'm sure few of us would have put the time and effort into it like he did for the small amount of money taken in through the newsletter subscriptions. He still visits the Brodhead Fly-in every other year or so. I think he just kind of decided it was time to pursue other interests. As for the copyright on the newsletter and other things, the guy put 10 years of hard work into all this stuff and did a terrific job on them so I can fully understand his wanting to protect his work. Unfortunately a few people must have gotten upset by paying their few dollars at the end of his run and didn't get their newsletter. They spoke up without realizing his huge commitment over the previous 10 years. Among many other things he was adamant about the Pietenpol family getting credit for what a great design Mr. Pietenpol created. I just wanted to clarify some of this stuff before the mud starts flying because there really isn't any to throw. I'm stepping off the soap box now! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183385#183385


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    Time: 08:27:51 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
    Subject: Re: N444MH video
    Thanks Don. Like I said, it was a rumor, and since I don't know anything about him other than the stuff in the rumor, I was just interested in finding out if he is a scam artist. Sounds like the story was blown out of proportion. Didn't mean to rile anyone up. Yikes. No mud, I swear! On 5/15/08, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote: > > > Glenn (and others), > > Unfortunately, somehow some rumors got started about Grant. Grant is a > great guy to those that got to know him through the Buckeye Pietenpol > Association. He took over the well established BPA newsletter from Frank > Pavliga Sr. He said he would do it for 10 years. That's just what he > did. I kept myself paid up for the newsletter and I think there may have > been one newsletter at the end that didn't get printed up for what I paid > for. Big deal. He wrote a fantastic newsletter for 10 years and put loads > and loads of time and research into the Pietenpol stuff. I'm sure few of us > would have put the time and effort into it like he did for the small amount > of money taken in through the newsletter subscriptions. He still visits the > Brodhead Fly-in every other year or so. I think he just kind of decided it > was time to pursue other interests. As for the copyright on the newsletter > and other things, the guy put 10 years of hard work into all this stuff and > did a terrific job o! > n them so I can fully understand his wanting to protect his > work. Unfortunately a few people must have gotten upset by paying their few > dollars at the end of his run and didn't get their newsletter. They spoke > up without realizing his huge commitment over the previous 10 years. Among > many other things he was adamant about the Pietenpol family getting credit > for what a great design Mr. Pietenpol created. I just wanted to clarify > some of this stuff before the mud starts flying because there really isn't > any to throw. > > I'm stepping off the soap box now! > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183385#183385 > > -- Glenn Thomas Storrs, CT http://www.flyingwood.com


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    Time: 09:11:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Are you guys scarfing 1/16th inch plywood?
    From: "jimd" <jlducey@hotmail.com>
    Thanks for all the comments, Thought of just butting them together, but it sounds like it might be interesting to see if I can get them scarfed somehow. Read that system3's clear coat can be used with T-88 without any problem, so was thinking that if the okoume is flexible enough to conform to the leading edge shape, it would work to clear coat it first then put the plywood on, then touch up a bit, that way the inside would get coated. Seems like that would be easiest way to get a good result. With the clear coat the idea is you don't have to leave the joint surfaces bare until you use the T-88, so it makes it easier, and if some time passed it would all be sealed the same. (Probably need to scuff it up before gluing.. hoping it all goes together pretty quick.) Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183391#183391




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