---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/19/08: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:17 AM - Re: Step (Lagowski Morrow) 2. 07:02 AM - Re: Step (TOM STINEMETZE) 3. 08:04 AM - Re: Step (Rick Holland) 4. 08:34 AM - Re: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! (Steve Eldredge) 5. 08:46 AM - Re: Step (TOM STINEMETZE) 6. 11:00 AM - Step (HelsperSew@aol.com) 7. 12:42 PM - Re: Step (TOM STINEMETZE) 8. 12:47 PM - Re: Step (Rick Holland) 9. 03:43 PM - Re: Step (Peter W Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:59 AM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Step THANKS-JIM ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter W Johnson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Jim, Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps :- http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0712_JPG.jpg The passenger step is just =BD" 4130 welded into the gear legs (ala Alan James). The pilots step is ply and spruce. See the following :- http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0453_JPG.jpg and http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0454_JPG.jpg You may need to zoom in a bit on the images for a better look. Hope that helps. Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lagowski Morrow Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 7:15 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Step I have decided I need a step to get in my Piet. Also true for the lucky passenger! What have you all done out there??--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT Got the tail pieces on and all the cables run, adjusted and turnbuckles safetied. Next is windshields Do not archive http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. Release Date: 17/05/2008 6:26 PM Checked by AVG. 17/05/2008 6:26 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 5/18/2008 9:31 AM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:01 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Peter: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Step I welded a passenger step onto the landing gear. Rick On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:57 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *Peter:* > ** > *I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... > Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables?* > ** > *Tom Stinemetze* > > >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps > > ** > > *____ | ____ > \8/ > / \ > * > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:54 AM PST US From: Steve Eldredge Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! Sorry to hear that Shad, I had a similar experience when a wing panel that I thought I had fastened securely to the ceiling broke loose and fell onto the other wing panel belo w it. I had just finished shrinking the covering and had applied the tapes . Made for a bad, bad day.... She is flying now though! Steve E. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 11:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! Hello Guys, hope your day went better than mine! I was out today working o n my wings for my Jungster 1, and after 5 hrs of prep and gluing I heard th e worst sound a homebuilder can hear..... CRUNCH, CRACK, SILENCE!, Then 15 min. of severe, prolonged cussing! I glued my false spars for the ailerons in to the ribs and had it clamped , and 10 min later bumped into the bench , the whole thing fell off the work bench crashed to the floor, and broke o ff 2 of the ribs, top and bottom caps, trailing edge and all. I can fix it but, for about 10 min I thought about throwing the damn wing pannel in the yard and running it over with the Allis Chalmers, and starting over. I go t one rib is fixed, now I have to scarf in some trailing edge stock, and pl ywood strip and try to keep it looking steright. One bad thing about wood is it can't be driled off and replaced like aluminum airplanes. However I am lucky it broke where it did (If you can call it lucky) because I can fix it relitivily eaisly, and cheaply. The hard part is going to be scarffing in the trailing edge pieces and make it look profesional. LESSON: MAKE SU RE THAT WHILE BUILDING YOU KEEP THE STRUCTURE WELL AWAY FROM THE EDGES OF T HE WORK BENCH, AND IT CAN NOT TOPPLE OVER, OR OFF THE BENCH, ESPECIALLY WHE N IT IS TOP HEAVY BECAUSE OF "C"CLAMPS, OR OTHER HEVY TOOLS. I will try not to add too much more "charactor" to my airplane untill I am ready for fabr ic and paint. LEARN FROM MY MISTAKE!!!!! Shad ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:13 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Step Rick: I guess I wasn't being clear. It appears that your step located underneath the pilot's seat would interfere with the rudder cables as they head back behind the seat. Tom Stinemetze >I welded a passenger step onto the landing gear. >Rick Rick: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:12 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Step Hi Guys, Here is how I did my pilot step. I wanted to have it totally recessed, but I had too much going on inside, so I had it stick out some too. Pictures attached. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:28 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Step Dan: That looks like a good compromise - light yet functional and shouldn't interfere with the rudder cables. Tom Stinemetze > Here is how I did my pilot step. I wanted to have it totally recessed, but I had too much going on inside, so I had it stick out some too. Pictures attached. > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:57 PM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Step No problemo, the rudder cable go over it. Rick On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:43 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *Rick:* > ** > *I guess I wasn't being clear. It appears that your step located > underneath the pilot's seat would interfere with the rudder cables as they > head back behind the seat.* > ** > *Tom Stinemetze* > > > >I welded a passenger step onto the landing gear. > > >Rick > > > *Rick:* >> ** >> *I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... >> Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables?* >> ** >> *Tom Stinemetze* >> >> > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:00 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Tom, Take a look at HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg"http://www.cpc-world.com/i mages/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg. You can see the rudder cable (green test wire) goes underneath the step. Cheers Peter. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 11:57 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Peter: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps ____ | ____ \8/ / \ Checked by AVG. 9:31 AM Checked by AVG. 9:31 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.