---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/21/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:07 AM - Re: Step () 2. 05:23 AM - Re: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! (Phillips, Jack) 3. 05:23 AM - Re: Step (Peter W Johnson) 4. 05:30 AM - Re: Step () 5. 05:56 AM - straight axle bungee failure safety cable, installed (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 6. 06:23 AM - Re: straight axle bungee failure safety cable, installed (HelsperSew@aol.com) 7. 06:34 AM - Re: Step (Peter W Johnson) 8. 06:55 AM - About that idea for a low-wing Piet (Owen Davies) 9. 06:55 AM - Model A engine (Mike Townsley) 10. 07:41 AM - Re: Disaster preventers (HelsperSew@aol.com) 11. 07:49 AM - Re: Model A engine (HelsperSew@aol.com) 12. 09:21 AM - Re: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! (CozyGirrrl@aol.com) 13. 10:01 AM - Re: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! (airlion@bellsouth.net) 14. 10:05 AM - Re: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! (Skip Gadd) 15. 10:09 AM - Re: About that idea for a low-wing Piet (Bill Church) 16. 10:22 AM - Brodhead & Osh (CozyGirrrl@aol.com) 17. 11:03 AM - Re: Brodhead & Osh (bob@cozyworld.net) 18. 12:04 PM - Re: Brodhead & Osh (CozyGirrrl@aol.com) 19. 07:43 PM - Re: Brodhead & Osh (Dog67@aol.com) 20. 08:08 PM - Re: Brodhead & Osh (CozyGirrrl@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:21 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step From: Is that bracket still there ?Otherwise that's excellent. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 20, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, There are indeed two pulleys in that location, one for the rudder cable; the other for the tail wheel cable. Check out http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0213_JPG.jpg for a better view. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi, Australia http://www.cpc-world.com ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:30 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step There should be a pulley there in place of that bracket or wire or what ever you want to call that thing that is diverting the cable, with the cable going under the pulley to divert it down and out of the way. With a pulley there will be no friction to eventually break the cable. Just my take on it. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 19, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Tom, Take a look at http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg. You can see the rudder cable (green test wire) goes underneath the step. Cheers Peter. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 11:57 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Peter: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps ____ | ____ \8/ / \ Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 19/05/2008 5:04 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:41 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! From: "Phillips, Jack" Dan do you have "Disaster Preventers" on your bungees? These are short loops of cable that prevent the axle from going up far enough to allow a wing to hit the ground if a bungee lets go. Look at my Piet or Mike Cuy's at Brodhead in a few weeks and you can see what I'm talking about. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! Shad, After I attached my wing for the first time, I decided that my landing gear bungee cords needed tightening. This is almost impossible for one man to do alone, but I tried. I jacked up the aircraft and had it sitting on some blocks of wood. I struggled with the bungee and tipped it off the blocks. One of the wingtips dropped to within inches of the hangar floor before the gear caught on one of the lower (toppled) blocks. My heart went into overdrive as I desperately got a jack under it again. This is a case of being stupidly in a hurry. Won't make that mistake again! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. _____ Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food . _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privile ged, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, pleas e notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:49 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, Which bracket? Peter _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 9:04 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Is that bracket still there ?Otherwise that=92s excellent. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 20, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, There are indeed two pulleys in that location, one for the rudder cable; the other for the tail wheel cable. Check out HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0213_JPG.jpg"http:// www .cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0213_JPG.jpg for a better view. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi, Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:30 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step There should be a pulley there in place of that bracket or wire or what ever you want to call that thing that is diverting the cable, with the cable going under the pulley to divert it down and out of the way. With a pulley there will be no friction to eventually break the cable. Just my take on it. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 19, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Tom, Take a look at HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg"http://www.cpc-world.co m/i mages/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg. You can see the rudder cable (green test wire) goes underneath the step. Cheers Peter. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 11:57 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Peter: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps ____ | ____ \8/ / \ Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 19/05/2008 5:04 PM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 20/05/2008 4:45 PM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:15 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step From: The one that was in the original picture with the green line going through it. I'm guessing that was just there for building purposes. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 21, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, Which bracket? Peter ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 9:04 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Is that bracket still there ?Otherwise that's excellent. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 20, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, There are indeed two pulleys in that location, one for the rudder cable; the other for the tail wheel cable. Check out http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0213_JPG.jpg for a better view. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi, Australia http://www.cpc-world.com ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:30 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step There should be a pulley there in place of that bracket or wire or what ever you want to call that thing that is diverting the cable, with the cable going under the pulley to divert it down and out of the way. With a pulley there will be no friction to eventually break the cable. Just my take on it. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 19, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Tom, Take a look at http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg. You can see the rudder cable (green test wire) goes underneath the step. Cheers Peter. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 11:57 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Peter: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps ____ | ____ \8/ / \ Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 19/05/2008 5:04 PM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 20/05/2008 4:45 PM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: straight axle bungee failure safety cable, installed From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" After thinking I could get away with using a lesser-quality bungee cord (I use 6 feet each side of 1/2" diameter bungee cord) those loops of safety cable saved my underbelly landing at home base when one of those cheap bungees frayed and loosened almost completely. Safety cables: don't leave home without them. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:16 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: straight axle bungee failure safety cable, installed Hey Mike, On your tube/sleeve bungee landing gear set-up.............have your tubes ever come close to bottoming out when the bungees were working normally, and how is this set-up holding up over time with (your) landings? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:27 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, That was a bit of bent welding wire used to find the best position of the pulley!! Cheers Peter _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:28 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step The one that was in the original picture with the green line going through it. I=92m guessing that was just there for building purposes. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 21, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, Which bracket? Peter _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 9:04 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Is that bracket still there ?Otherwise that=92s excellent. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 20, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Harvey, There are indeed two pulleys in that location, one for the rudder cable; the other for the tail wheel cable. Check out HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0213_JPG.jpg"http:// www .cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0213_JPG.jpg for a better view. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi, Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:30 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step There should be a pulley there in place of that bracket or wire or what ever you want to call that thing that is diverting the cable, with the cable going under the pulley to divert it down and out of the way. With a pulley there will be no friction to eventually break the cable. Just my take on it. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: May 19, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Tom, Take a look at HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg"http://www.cpc-world.co m/i mages/IMG_0464_JPG.jpg. You can see the rudder cable (green test wire) goes underneath the step. Cheers Peter. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 11:57 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Step Peter: I thought about doing something like that for passenger steps but ... Doesn't that get in the way of your rudder cables? Tom Stinemetze >Check out the photo for details of my pilot/passenger steps ____ | ____ \8/ / \ Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM Checked by AVG. 18/05/2008 9:31 AM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 19/05/2008 5:04 PM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 20/05/2008 4:45 PM http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 20/05/2008 4:45 PM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:02 AM PST US From: Owen Davies Subject: Pietenpol-List: About that idea for a low-wing Piet Seems to me the way the creator would have done it, if he hadn't stuck to parasols, is to use Flybaby-style gear and flying wires. Any thoughts? Especially about how the drag and glide would compare with the strut-braced low wing someone posted? Owen ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:43 AM PST US From: Mike Townsley Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine *Hi Group, Some of you have the old Ford Model A engine. I was wondering about how much money(just for the engine and prop hub) it takes to get one in the air? Where do you get your prop hubs? Thanks Mike in Iowa * > * > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:16 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Disaster preventers Jack, My intention always was to install those safety cables, but I had not gotten around to putting them on, but you can bet your booties that I immediately put them on after that! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:33 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine Mike, I found my Ford A engine on Ebay for $100.00. A very fortunate find because it turned out to be a very good one. You have to be careful because I bought a block before that, that was cracked. I then took it to Antique Engine Rebuilders in Skokie IL. to be rebuilt. I was very pleased with the result from them. The bill was about $2600.00 as I remember. Then I had to buy a aluminum head. I bought mag drives and prop hub from Ken Perkins in Kansas. Contact me off-list if you need more details. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:10 AM PST US From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! "Look at my Piet or Mike Cuys at Brodhead in a few weeks and you can see what Im talking about. Jack Phillips NX899JP" Speaking of Brodhead, what are the dates this year? Regards, Chrissi CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:32 AM PST US From: airlion@bellsouth.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:05:52 AM PST US From: "Skip Gadd" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! Hey Chrissi, July 23, 24, and 25. See you there. Skip > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 5/21/2008 12:24:37 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! > > > "Look at my Piet or Mike Cuys at Brodhead in a few weeks and you can see > what Im talking about. > Jack Phillips NX899JP" > > Speaking of Brodhead, what are the dates this year? > Regards, Chrissi > > CG Products > www.CozyGirrrl.com > Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo > Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:09 AM PST US From: "Bill Church" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: About that idea for a low-wing Piet I would think that using Flybaby-style gear and flying wires would go very well ... along with Flybaby-style wings, fuselage, empennage, plans... (Sorry, but I can't resist making these assinine comments.) On a more serious note, anyone thinking about building (and, more importantly, flying) such a "Pietenpol Inspired" aircraft had better know what they are doing. There's a "whole bunch of aeronautics" going on when a plane takes flight (that's a technical term). I am an engineer by training, BUT not an aeronautical engineer, and I don't profess to have any real knowledge of that science - so I'm building to the plans, because I know they work. While the IDEA of different variations of "Pietenpol Inspired" planes is interesting, I wouldn't even think about building and getting in one that I had designed myself, number one, because I don't know how to do it, and number two, because you are no longer dealing with a proven design. Instead, you are designing a new craft, with ideas borrowed from an existing design. Now, if everyone was like me, we would never have any new aircraft designs. So, hats off to all those that explore new territories. Just know your limits, and be safe. Bill C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Owen Davies Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: About that idea for a low-wing Piet Seems to me the way the creator would have done it, if he hadn't stuck to parasols, is to use Flybaby-style gear and flying wires. Any thoughts? Especially about how the drag and glide would compare with the strut-braced low wing someone posted? Owen ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:46 AM PST US From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead & Osh Thanks Skip! That's great, we can get to Osh and stake out a campsite, backtrack to Brodhead and back to Osh. We're looking for volunteering opportunities this year at Osh if anybody kn ows of any? Regards, Chrissi & Randi CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details In a message dated 5/21/2008 12:07:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skipgadd@earthlink.net writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip Gadd" Hey Chrissi, July 23, 24, and 25. See you there. Skip > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 5/21/2008 12:24:37 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! > > > "Look at my Piet or Mike Cuys at Brodhead in a few weeks and you can see > what Im talking about. > Jack Phillips NX899JP" > > Speaking of Brodhead, what are the dates this year? > Regards, Chrissi > > CG Products > www.CozyGirrrl.com > Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo > Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:03 AM PST US From: bob@cozyworld.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead & Osh Wow - the Cozy girrrls at Broadhead? Maybe making Piet parts??? I've stalled on my Cozy due to rising cost of living and lowering of the wallet. I've been thinking about a Piet since it's relatively affordable (in a dazed sort of way). I can't make either Briadhead or Osh but it's great to have such a dynamic duo into the Piet world! I have the Piet plans as well as the plans to a Gerard GN1 that someone actually sent me. They decided not to use them and just mailed them. Good luck! Bob Hassel Santa Fe, NM Thanks Skip! That's great, we can get to Osh and stake out a campsite, backtrack to Brodhead and back to Osh. We're looking for volunteering opportunities this year at Osh if anybody kn ows of any? Regards, Chrissi & Randi CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details In a message dated 5/21/2008 12:07:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skipgadd@earthlink.net writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip Gadd" Hey Chrissi, July 23, 24, and 25. See you there. Skip > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 5/21/2008 12:24:37 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OHHH CRAPP!!!! LESSON IN BUILDING!! > > > "Look at my Piet or Mike Cuys at Brodhead in a few weeks and you can see > what Im talking about. > Jack Phillips NX899JP" > > Speaking of Brodhead, what are the dates this year? > Regards, Chrissi > > CG Products > www.CozyGirrrl.com > Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo > Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:04:02 PM PST US From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead & Osh EEEEP... we have been discovered =) Yes Bob, we are very interested in the Piet. Its what I really wanted to build in the first place; a low and slow subsonic bugsmasher but when we were looking for a plane to build in the Kitplanes plans issue and "C" came before "P" so we bought Cozy Mk-IV plans (hows that for all the wrong reasons?) =) Seeing Dick's article in Sport Aviation was just too much to pass up and meeting him while we were volunteering at SNF made it clear this would be our next project. We have all the plans and printed matter from Pietenpol and hope to pick up more knowledge while we finish the Cozy. CG Products make Piet metal parts? Lets just say we are seriously considering it once we get a feel for the demand. We have nearly all the canard metal parts in production so its time to look for something new. You probably are on the right track as far as switching to an economical project both in the building and flying. Regards, Chrissi & Randi CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details =================================================== Wow - the Cozy girrrls at Broadhead? Maybe making Piet parts??? I've stalled on my Cozy due to rising cost of living and lowering of the wallet. I've been thinking about a Piet since it's relatively affordable (in a dazed sort of way). I can't make either Briadhead or Osh but it's great to have such a dynamic duo into the Piet world! I have the Piet plans as well as the plans to a Gerard GN1 that someone actually sent me. They decided not to use them and just mailed them. Good luck! Bob Hassel Santa Fe, NM **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:39 PM PST US From: Dog67@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead & Osh If y'all start doing metal parts for Piets - keep me posted, I'd be interested Cheers Jon A **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:35 PM PST US From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead & Osh In a message dated 5/21/2008 9:45:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Dog67@aol.com writes: If y'all start doing metal parts for Piets - keep me posted, I'd be interested Cheers Jon A ======================== Dear Jon, If we do we will make an announcement and it will also be on our parts web site as well. Aside from the plans we are too new to the group and type to know if the hardware is good as it is designed or are there improvements or tweaks that are considered improvements. What we did with the Cozy Mk-IV is first make sure we manufactured plans parts made to the plans first. There were several innovative and significantly improved ways of doing things but they are best offered as alternative or supplementary parts to the standard ones. Any discussion or feedback from the group would be welcome. Regards, Chrissi & Randi CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. 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