Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/25/08


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 04:57 AM - Recent Flying (Peter W Johnson)
     2. 08:08 AM - step (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 05:01 PM - metal parts (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
     4. 10:37 PM - New $100 dollar breakfast location For Ohio Piets!! (shad bell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:57:13 AM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Recent Flying
    Hi Guys, I have at last made my first out landing flight in the Pietenpol. I made a trip to another airport about an hour away from my home field. The Piet and Corvair performed very well although the weather was very cold (by Aussie standards, about 10C). It was a beautiful sunny day, the Piet flies hands off (short distances) with just a little nose up trim requiring a little more as the fuel in the top tank is burned off. The engine ran very well with the temps just about reaching the greens. Even my landings weren=92t too bad! Cruise speed was around 70kts at 2800 rpm with fuel consumption 18litres per hour (around 4 imp galls). One thing I am going to have to learn for the future is how to read a map in an open cockpit airplane. Just as well I knew were I was going because I couldn=92t get at my map. I had another flight a couple of days ago with one of my hangar mates doing some in-flight videoing. He is a pro photographer so the results look good. I=92ll post some to YouTube when I get a copy. I am hoping that all the days of high oil temps, bent wheels and ugly landings are getting behind me and I can start having some fun in the Piet. Role on the warm weather!! Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com Checked by AVG. 24/05/2008 8:56 AM


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    Time: 08:08:03 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: step
    Michael wrote- > Here is what I've decided to do with my step. It's simple to build > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=step1mykitplanes.jpg&PhotoID=3943 That will never work... it's too streamlined to work on a Pietenpol ;o) Seriously, that is a very clever design and should work great! You'd better patent it before the CozyGirrrlz decide to sell it as a premade, prefinished metal accessory ;o) (Which wouldn't be a bad thing, like the front seat shoulder harness attach fitting and other metal bits). Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 05:01:16 PM PST US
    From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com
    Subject: metal parts
    Was pointed out offlist to me by David (dpaule@frii.com): "Chrissi, It would be worth clarifying the post on the Pietenpol list. I'm concerned that people without your background might be led wrongly, and assume that annealed 4130 is the same as normalized." ...and he provided this helpful; clarification: "Here's a quote from MIL-HDBK-5 about it. MIL-HDBK-5 is the stress analysists's guide to aircraft metal properties (it's not a process manual for heat treatment): "Annealing generally softens the material, producing the lowest mechanical properties. The normalized condition is achieved by holding to a slightly higher temperature than annealing, but for a shorter period of time. The purpose of normalizing varies depending on the desired properties; it can be used to increase or decrease mechanical properties." I clearly misspoke at the time, David is correct, annealing is not the same as normalizing. Typically to bend 4130 it is suggested that in "N" condition you do not bend tighter than a radius of 3t (t=thickness) but if you anneal first you can go down to 1t radius. That's a significant difference on a 90* bend. An important aside here is how this is reflected in costs of 4130 steel parts which would have to be annealed for a sharp bend then normalized afterwards -VS- the cold roll steel that can be bent at 1t off the shelf. Thanks David for keeping me on the straight and narrow! Regards, Chrissi CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)


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    Time: 10:37:26 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: New $100 dollar breakfast location For Ohio Piets!!
    I flew my ass off yesterday, and in the process found a new "Destination" for a meal. I flew up to Shenandoa Airpark (5 miles north of Mansfield) for a pankake breakfast (too late for the goodies) and was told by a fellow aviator to stop by Butler Ohio for lunch. I forget the official name of the airport (not on the charts) but it is right on the north edge of Butler Ohio, about 15 statute miles south of Mansfield Airport on about a 170 degree bearing from the airport, south of Plesant Hill Resivour 4 miles. Open to aviators, about 2700 ft long or longer, and smoooooth, east west, an old farm, and barn is there. Just walk to the paved bike path (old railroad bed) on the south side of the strip, south of the barn and walk about a quarter to a third mile to the resturant (east, or left as you walk out around the gate). Whiffle... something resturant, good food for lunch and a hell of a neat strip, down in a valley in the small rolling hills of north-eastern Ohio. Mike C. it would be about 55 Statute miles for you, about 60-70 miles from Barber Field for The Sky Gypsy, and any other Piets up there. If any of you guys want to meet up there for breakfast some saturday let me know, I'm game. It sure is neat to find new grass airports that you had no idea were even there, and aviator friendly. By the way there unicom is 122.8. Shad NX92GB 115hrs and counting




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