---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/29/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: center section tank (Peter W Johnson) 2. 04:50 AM - Re: center section tank (Phillips, Jack) 3. 05:03 AM - C-65 Engine for Sale in TX (John Franklin) 4. 06:01 AM - Re: center section tank (Jack T. Textor) 5. 06:30 AM - Re: center section tank (Phillips, Jack) 6. 09:25 AM - Re: New $100 dollar breakfast location For Ohio Piets!! (wd6auy) 7. 01:15 PM - what to do if you have a screw loose (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]) 8. 06:09 PM - Re: Jay Anderson Prop (Rick Holland) 9. 07:09 PM - Re: center section tank (Dick Navratil) 10. 07:25 PM - Re: Jay Anderson Prop (airlion@bellsouth.net) 11. 07:46 PM - Radio Help (Lagowski Morrow) 12. 08:01 PM - Re: Radio Help (Dick Navratil) 13. 10:25 PM - Re: center section tank (Peter W Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:06 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Dick, Very neat fuel contents gauges, where did they come from? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick Navratil Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Hi Douwe My center section is 37" overall. I have 2 tanks holding 8.4 gal eaq. The attached pic shows the 2 sumps, shut off valves and fuel guages. There are also finger strainers in each tank. In addition, I have a header tank in the nose for 2 gal. I was out for 1.9 hours today, 22.5 total on it to this point. Working off the 40 hours for Brodhead and the weather this year is doing it's best not to cooperate. Locals reported a tornado on Sunday just south of the airport but it didn't actually touch down. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > > For those of you who changed their center section fuel tank from plans to > get more capacity, how many sumps did you use, where are they located and > how did you configure the tank bottom to ensure proper water drainage? > > Wings and tailfeathers painted, just finished painting my numbers on the > wing!! now they get hung up and the fuse and engine comes back out. Lord > willing, we'll fly up to Bhead next year... > > Douwe > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:45 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank From: "Phillips, Jack" My Centersection is 36" wide with a single 15.5 gallon tank. I have a fuel pickup at each corner (just like a Stearman) and run the fuel lines down the cabanes. I have two sump drains - one at each rear corner. I dished out the tank in the area where the sump drains are to make them the lowest point of the tank. With this setup total unusable fuel is about 2 Tablespoons. See attached photo: Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick Navratil Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Hi Douwe My center section is 37" overall. I have 2 tanks holding 8.4 gal eaq. The attached pic shows the 2 sumps, shut off valves and fuel guages. There are also finger strainers in each tank. In addition, I have a header tank in the nose for 2 gal. I was out for 1.9 hours today, 22.5 total on it to this point. Working off the 40 hours for Brodhead and the weather this year is doing it's best not to cooperate. Locals reported a tornado on Sunday just south of the airport but it didn't actually touch down. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > > For those of you who changed their center section fuel tank from plans to > get more capacity, how many sumps did you use, where are they located and > how did you configure the tank bottom to ensure proper water drainage? > > Wings and tailfeathers painted, just finished painting my numbers on the > wing!! now they get hung up and the fuse and engine comes back out. Lord > willing, we'll fly up to Bhead next year... > > Douwe > > > _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:02 AM PST US From: John Franklin Subject: Pietenpol-List: C-65 Engine for Sale in TX Piet List, At the Old Kingsbury fly-in I met Harvey Thompson, a retired airline pilot who has a C-65 for sale that sounded like a good deal. The engine was overhauled, run for an hour, and then pickled. I think he is asking $4500. I have attached a pic of the engine, and you can contact Harvey at: treetopair@sbcglobal.net I have no financial interest in the sale, but if you have trouble contacting him, email me offline at jjr48@slb.com. I also have a few more pics of the engine. Regards, John F. Richmond, TX GN-1 / Corvair 164cid ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:46 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank From: "Jack T. Textor" Jack, Your craftsmanship continues to amaze me! From the picture it looks like rivets around the edges of the combing. Is it backed with aluminum, screwed to the fuselage? Thanks, Jack www.textors.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank From: "Phillips, Jack" Thanks for the compliment, Jack. I think what you are seeing are the sheet metal screws that hold the aluminum cowlings in place. There are hundreds of #10 x 3/8" stainless steel sheet metal screws that screw into the 1/4" thick spruce strip glued to the upper longerons, and into the laminated wooden bows that provide the circular cross section of the cowling. I was a little concerned with sheet metal screws ability to hold securely, but after 4 years of flying and well over 100 hours of flight time, none of them have ever gotten loose. Here are a couple more pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack T. Textor Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Jack, Your craftsmanship continues to amaze me! From the picture it looks like rivets around the edges of the combing. Is it backed with aluminum, screwed to the fuselage? Thanks, Jack www.textors.com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privile ged, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, pleas e notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:02 AM PST US From: "wd6auy" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New $100 dollar breakfast location For Ohio Piets!! Greetings, Mike - do you have Steve Williamson's email address? He would like to contact you off-list. 73's, Dick I'm getting hungry just reading your post Shad. Nice find. Nearer to Frankie P. and Don E. is Salem Air Park where Don reports (and others) of a great little new restaurant right on the field. Nice airport too with both E/W grass and pavement. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: what to do if you have a screw loose From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]" that holds the metal around your cockpit areas to the fuselage wood: Take screw out, insert toothpick in hole with a dab of T-88 on it, break off, let cure. Re-install screw. This tip from Sky Gypsy owner Frank Pavliga to me years ago. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:07 PM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Prop Gene I would also appreciate getting the dimensions of your windscreens. Rick On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Gene & Tammy wrote: > Here's the info on my scimitar Prop. 76X38 Cost just under $800 > (about $200 more than the 74X38 Sterba prop I replaced). Delivery was right > on time but be forewarned that he usually waits to build scimitar props > until he has a half dozen orders. Regular props are priced less. My wife > bought the scimitar for my birthday as she knew that was the prop I wanted > from the start but at that time it looked like delivery was 6 months off. > N502R has an A-65 in it and I'm now happy with the performance, both climb > and cruise. > Jay's info. Jay Anderson > Cloudcars > 408 N Houston St > Comanche, Tx 76442 > cloudcars@verison.net > Phone: 325-356-2810 > > Jeff, thank you for the kind words about my windscreens. The front one is > clear plexiglas that I molded with heat and the back one is tinted and > was cold bent with a brake. If I ever replace them I think I'll just cold > bend both with a brake (takes much less time and still looks good). This > weekend I will measure them for you. I do have a pattern that I would be > happy to send you. May not fit your plane but would at least give you a > starting point and maybe save you some time. > Gene in Tennessee > N502R > > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:46 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Peter Those guage assys are in the Aircraft Spruce Cataloug. They come with the welding flanges and all parts. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter W Johnson" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:53 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > > Dick, > > Very neat fuel contents gauges, where did they come from? > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://www.cpc-world.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick > Navratil > Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 12:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > Hi Douwe > My center section is 37" overall. I have 2 tanks holding 8.4 gal eaq. > The > attached pic shows the 2 sumps, shut off valves and fuel guages. There > are > also finger strainers in each tank. In addition, I have a header tank in > the nose for 2 gal. > I was out for 1.9 hours today, 22.5 total on it to this point. Working > off > the 40 hours for Brodhead and the weather this year is doing it's best not > to cooperate. Locals reported a tornado on Sunday just south of the > airport > > but it didn't actually touch down. > > Dick N. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douwe Blumberg" > To: "pietenpolgroup" > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:18 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > >> >> >> For those of you who changed their center section fuel tank from plans to >> get more capacity, how many sumps did you use, where are they located and >> how did you configure the tank bottom to ensure proper water drainage? >> >> Wings and tailfeathers painted, just finished painting my numbers on the >> wing!! now they get hung up and the fuse and engine comes back out. Lord >> willing, we'll fly up to Bhead next year... >> >> Douwe >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:25:41 PM PST US From: airlion@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Prop ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:46 PM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help I just learned that I may have a problem communicating from my Piet that has a 65 Continental with Bendix-Scintilla mags, unshielded wiring and old time ceramic plugs. My intention was to use my handheld radio with a plugged in headset. I have been advised that the static will be so bad that I will basically be unable to communicate. What to do since I will not fly without being able to transmit and receive clearly. I would like to avoid the expense of new mags, shielded wiring and new shielded plugs. I'm about a month away from engine fireup. Am I stuck with getting new stuff or is there an alternative(s) out there?--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:41 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help Many others will have great suggestions, but I just went thru this problem and found 2 things that made a world of difference. First, I took of the hand held antenna aninstalles a full sized VHF antenna. Second, I grounded the antenna to a horizontal ground plate, approx 24"x18" I went from having so much static that I couldnt communicate more that 1/2 mi., to hearing traffic 25+ mi out. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lagowski Morrow To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help I just learned that I may have a problem communicating from my Piet that has a 65 Continental with Bendix-Scintilla mags, unshielded wiring and old time ceramic plugs. My intention was to use my handheld radio with a plugged in headset. I have been advised that the static will be so bad that I will basically be unable to communicate. What to do since I will not fly without being able to transmit and receive clearly. I would like to avoid the expense of new mags, shielded wiring and new shielded plugs. I'm about a month away from engine fireup. Am I stuck with getting new stuff or is there an alternative(s) out there?--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:54 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Thanks Dick, found them. Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick Navratil Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: center section tank Peter Those guage assys are in the Aircraft Spruce Cataloug. They come with the welding flanges and all parts. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter W Johnson" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:53 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > > Dick, > > Very neat fuel contents gauges, where did they come from? > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://www.cpc-world.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick > Navratil > Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 12:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > Hi Douwe > My center section is 37" overall. I have 2 tanks holding 8.4 gal eaq. > The > attached pic shows the 2 sumps, shut off valves and fuel guages. There > are > also finger strainers in each tank. In addition, I have a header tank in > the nose for 2 gal. > I was out for 1.9 hours today, 22.5 total on it to this point. Working > off > the 40 hours for Brodhead and the weather this year is doing it's best not > to cooperate. Locals reported a tornado on Sunday just south of the > airport > > but it didn't actually touch down. > > Dick N. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douwe Blumberg" > To: "pietenpolgroup" > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:18 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section tank > > >> >> >> For those of you who changed their center section fuel tank from plans to >> get more capacity, how many sumps did you use, where are they located and >> how did you configure the tank bottom to ensure proper water drainage? >> >> Wings and tailfeathers painted, just finished painting my numbers on the >> wing!! now they get hung up and the fuse and engine comes back out. Lord >> willing, we'll fly up to Bhead next year... >> >> Douwe >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.