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     1. 12:53 AM - Re: gross wt (Peter W Johnson)
     2. 03:39 AM - Re: Windshild (Gene & Tammy)
     3. 03:39 AM - Re: Windshild (Gene & Tammy)
     4. 06:11 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Prop (MikeD)
     5. 08:31 AM - EAA Chapter 1279 in action (Patrick Panzera)
     6. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Jay Anderson Prop (Gordon Bowen)
     7. 11:06 AM - Brussels 2008 (Bill Church)
     8. 11:32 AM - Re: Brussels 2008 (Robert Gow)
     9. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Jay Anderson Prop (airlion@bellsouth.net)
    10. 12:28 PM - Re: gross wt (shad bell)
    11. 07:22 PM - Model A (Chet's Mail)
    12. 07:42 PM - Re: gross wt (Dick Navratil)
 
 
 
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      Dick,
      
      
      I have my max weight placarded at 1200lbs. I had my first two up flight (at
      Max Wt) a couple of weeks ago with full fuel and the Corvair hardly noticed.
      Another 110lbs and it could have been very different!
      
      
      Cheers
      
      
      Peter
      
      
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      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
      Navratil
      Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 12:06 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: gross wt
      
      
      I did a test today with full fuel and weights in front seat to give me a
      gross wt of 1310 lbs.  at 77 deg.  I could tell the plane didnt like this
      very much.  Climb was very sluggish and I had to increase power in cruise to
      maintain alt.  
      
      My question, have any of you Corvair guys tried flying to this gross wt?  I
      am curious max gross on others.  Yesterday I tried 1250 lbs at 72 deg  and
      got a climb of 400 fpm  Today was about 200 fpm.
      
      Dick N.
      
      
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      Gardiner, it's on it's way.
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gardiner Mason 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 5:52 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild
      
      
        Thank you Gene, my address is  Gardiner Mason, 840 Woodley Dr. 
      Atlanta, Ga, 30318. I am in the covering stage of my Piet now.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Gene & Tammy 
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 5:59 PM
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild
      
      
          Gardiner, I'll be glad to.  Send me your address.
          Gene
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Gardiner Mason 
            To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
            Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:03 AM
            Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild
      
      
            Gene, would you send me the windshield pattern also? Would 
      appreciate it. Gardiner Mason
      
      
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      Rick, it's on it's way.
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rick Holland 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:22 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild
      
      
        Thanks Gene address is:
      
        Rick Holland
        3732 Castle Butte Dr
        Castle Rock, CO 80109
      
        Have a good trip.
      
      
        On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> 
      wrote:
      
          Rick, I'm getting ready to leave on a six week motorcycle trip and 
      it would be best for me if you would  send me your address and I'll get 
      a copy off to you.  As to how their mounted, keep in mind that I did not 
      build the Piet and I simply copied the way it was attached in the first 
      place.  It is attached with bolts thru the aluminum with large backing 
      washers and nuts.  Works very well.
          Hope that helps
          Gene
      
      
        -- 
        Rick Holland
        Castle Rock, Colorado 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jay Anderson Prop | 
      
      
      
      zharvey(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
      > Just had to show off my new Jay Anderson 76 X 38  scimitar prop.  Flys as good
      as it looks.  It's been too windy to  get any reliable performance numbers but
      it climbs like an overweight homesick  angel (which is outstanding for a Piet),
      
      >  Gene in Tennessee
      >  N502R
      
      
      Ours must have been made during the same production run - mine is arriving today
      via FedEX. I am using an A-75, so the prop is a 72-38 in the same scimitar style,
      but using mahogany and ash versus walnut/ash. It's the top one in the picture,
      Cloudcars sent me the picture as soon as the prop was done. Glad to hear
      the performance is good.
      
      As to delivery - by luck I called out of the blue about one day before they were
      doing a run of scimitar props, so mine took hardly any time at all. I think
      I ordered it maybe a month ago. Their service and help on the phone was excellent.
      I figured I was in good hands when I mentioned the A-75 and Jay immediately
      suggested the same size prop I was going to ask for anyway; many folks don't
      know how to prop the A-75.
      
      Mike D.
      
      --------
      Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185850#185850
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/our_prop_on_top_517.bmp
      
      
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| Subject:  | EAA Chapter 1279 in action | 
      
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASvC5Sx7Eo
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jay Anderson Prop | 
      
      
      We now have three Pietes running Jay Anderson Scrimitars.
      Gordon
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
      Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:08 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jay Anderson Prop
      
      
      >
      >
      > zharvey(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
      >> Just had to show off my new Jay Anderson 76 X 38  scimitar prop.  Flys as 
      >> good as it looks.  It's been too windy to  get any reliable performance 
      >> numbers but it climbs like an overweight homesick  angel (which is 
      >> outstanding for a Piet),
      >>  Gene in Tennessee
      >>  N502R
      >
      >
      > Ours must have been made during the same production run - mine is arriving 
      > today via FedEX. I am using an A-75, so the prop is a 72-38 in the same 
      > scimitar style, but using mahogany and ash versus walnut/ash. It's the top 
      > one in the picture, Cloudcars sent me the picture as soon as the prop was 
      > done. Glad to hear the performance is good.
      >
      > As to delivery - by luck I called out of the blue about one day before 
      > they were doing a run of scimitar props, so mine took hardly any time at 
      > all. I think I ordered it maybe a month ago. Their service and help on the 
      > phone was excellent. I figured I was in good hands when I mentioned the 
      > A-75 and Jay immediately suggested the same size prop I was going to ask 
      > for anyway; many folks don't know how to prop the A-75.
      >
      > Mike D.
      >
      > --------
      > Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185850#185850
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/our_prop_on_top_517.bmp
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      To all within travelling distance:
      
      Just a reminder that the Brussels Pietenpol gathering is less than two
      weeks away.
      This (19th) annual event is held at a private grass strip (Armstrong
      Aerodrome) in the little village of Brussels, Ontario, and is scheduled
      for Saturday, June 14th (rain date Sunday the 15th).
      Same laid-back atmosphere as Brodhead, just a bit smaller.
      Guaranteed to have at least three Piets on site, since there are now
      three based at the airstrip.
      
      Bill C
      
      
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      One year already?  Wow.  And be not much further ahead since last fall.
      
      
      Bob
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church
        Sent: June 2, 2008 2:03 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brussels 2008
      
      
        To all within travelling distance:
      
        Just a reminder that the Brussels Pietenpol gathering is less than two
      weeks away.
        This (19th) annual event is held at a private grass strip (Armstrong
      Aerodrome) in the little village of Brussels, Ontario, and is scheduled for
      Saturday, June 14th (rain date Sunday the 15th).
        Same laid-back atmosphere as Brodhead, just a bit smaller.
        Guaranteed to have at least three Piets on site, since there are now three
      based at the airstrip.
      
        Bill C
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jay Anderson Prop | 
      
      
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      I have flown at about 1275 lbs and also have to add cruise power to mantain alt.
      Sluggish climb, and higher landing speed to ease it on to the ground.  Not
      as much fun when your that heavy,  Feels like its on the edge of it's envelope.
      That weight was with me 185lbs and a 220 pounder (6ft 4) in the front hole
      and folded up like a paper clip.  With my wife and I it flys like a heavy loaded
      cub, not too bad and just a touch more power.
         
        Shad
      
             
      
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      Question to the list, with the model A engine what water temp and oil 
      temp are you seeing. The out side air is about 80 degree, and the water 
      temp is up to 200 degrees in the climb and about 190 to 195 stright and 
      level at 1600 RPMs.
      
      The oil after about 10 minutes will go up to a185 degrees, if I reduce 
      power and start to land with in a couple of minutes the oil will drop 
      back to 180 degrees.
      
      Any and all thoughts please.
      
      Chet Hartley / Don Hicks really nice flying machine
      
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      Thanks for the comparisson numbersguys.  Greg, that was on the Rotec 
      Piet.  I was having a slight problem with my ASI and Alt.  When I got 
      back on the ground, I found a piece of crud in the static port, so I am 
      going to run the test again.
      It will climb ok but it sure wants to come down fast on approach.
      I never tested the A-65 to more than 1150 lbs.
      Dick
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: gcardinal 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:51 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gross wt
      
      
        Dick,
      
        Was this on your Rotec or Continental powered Piet?
        We've flown NX18235 (A-65 with a cruise prop) at about 1250 -1275 lbs 
      on an 82 deg F. day. Performance was pretty anemic and I don't think I 
      would want to fly it at heavier weights.
      
        Greg
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Dick Navratil 
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:05 PM
          Subject: Pietenpol-List: gross wt
      
      
          I did a test today with full fuel and weights in front seat to give 
      me a gross wt of 1310 lbs.  at 77 deg.  I could tell the plane didnt 
      like this very much.  Climb was very sluggish and I had to increase 
      power in cruise to maintain alt.  
          My question, have any of you Corvair guys tried flying to this gross 
      wt?  I am curious max gross on others.  Yesterday I tried 1250 lbs at 72 
      deg  and got a climb of 400 fpm  Today was about 200 fpm.
          Dick N.
      
      
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