Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/02/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:53 AM - Re: gross wt (Peter W Johnson)
     2. 03:39 AM - Re: Windshild (Gene & Tammy)
     3. 03:39 AM - Re: Windshild (Gene & Tammy)
     4. 06:11 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Prop (MikeD)
     5. 08:31 AM - EAA Chapter 1279 in action (Patrick Panzera)
     6. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Jay Anderson Prop (Gordon Bowen)
     7. 11:06 AM - Brussels 2008 (Bill Church)
     8. 11:32 AM - Re: Brussels 2008 (Robert Gow)
     9. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Jay Anderson Prop (airlion@bellsouth.net)
    10. 12:28 PM - Re: gross wt (shad bell)
    11. 07:22 PM - Model A (Chet's Mail)
    12. 07:42 PM - Re: gross wt (Dick Navratil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:53:23 AM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: gross wt
    Dick, I have my max weight placarded at 1200lbs. I had my first two up flight (at Max Wt) a couple of weeks ago with full fuel and the Corvair hardly noticed. Another 110lbs and it could have been very different! Cheers Peter _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick Navratil Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 12:06 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: gross wt I did a test today with full fuel and weights in front seat to give me a gross wt of 1310 lbs. at 77 deg. I could tell the plane didnt like this very much. Climb was very sluggish and I had to increase power in cruise to maintain alt. My question, have any of you Corvair guys tried flying to this gross wt? I am curious max gross on others. Yesterday I tried 1250 lbs at 72 deg and got a climb of 400 fpm Today was about 200 fpm. Dick N.


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    Time: 03:39:40 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Windshild
    Gardiner, it's on it's way. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Gardiner Mason To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild Thank you Gene, my address is Gardiner Mason, 840 Woodley Dr. Atlanta, Ga, 30318. I am in the covering stage of my Piet now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene & Tammy To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild Gardiner, I'll be glad to. Send me your address. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Gardiner Mason To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:03 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild Gene, would you send me the windshield pattern also? Would appreciate it. Gardiner Mason href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 5/22/2008 7:06 AM


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    Time: 03:39:40 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Windshild
    Rick, it's on it's way. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windshild Thanks Gene address is: Rick Holland 3732 Castle Butte Dr Castle Rock, CO 80109 Have a good trip. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> wrote: Rick, I'm getting ready to leave on a six week motorcycle trip and it would be best for me if you would send me your address and I'll get a copy off to you. As to how their mounted, keep in mind that I did not build the Piet and I simply copied the way it was attached in the first place. It is attached with bolts thru the aluminum with large backing washers and nuts. Works very well. Hope that helps Gene -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 5/22/2008 7:06 AM


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    Time: 06:11:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jay Anderson Prop
    From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
    zharvey(at)bellsouth.net wrote: > Just had to show off my new Jay Anderson 76 X 38 scimitar prop. Flys as good as it looks. It's been too windy to get any reliable performance numbers but it climbs like an overweight homesick angel (which is outstanding for a Piet), > Gene in Tennessee > N502R Ours must have been made during the same production run - mine is arriving today via FedEX. I am using an A-75, so the prop is a 72-38 in the same scimitar style, but using mahogany and ash versus walnut/ash. It's the top one in the picture, Cloudcars sent me the picture as soon as the prop was done. Glad to hear the performance is good. As to delivery - by luck I called out of the blue about one day before they were doing a run of scimitar props, so mine took hardly any time at all. I think I ordered it maybe a month ago. Their service and help on the phone was excellent. I figured I was in good hands when I mentioned the A-75 and Jay immediately suggested the same size prop I was going to ask for anyway; many folks don't know how to prop the A-75. Mike D. -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185850#185850 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/our_prop_on_top_517.bmp


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    Time: 08:31:38 AM PST US
    From: "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>
    Subject: EAA Chapter 1279 in action
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASvC5Sx7Eo


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    Time: 09:13:50 AM PST US
    From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: Re: Jay Anderson Prop
    We now have three Pietes running Jay Anderson Scrimitars. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jay Anderson Prop > > > zharvey(at)bellsouth.net wrote: >> Just had to show off my new Jay Anderson 76 X 38 scimitar prop. Flys as >> good as it looks. It's been too windy to get any reliable performance >> numbers but it climbs like an overweight homesick angel (which is >> outstanding for a Piet), >> Gene in Tennessee >> N502R > > > Ours must have been made during the same production run - mine is arriving > today via FedEX. I am using an A-75, so the prop is a 72-38 in the same > scimitar style, but using mahogany and ash versus walnut/ash. It's the top > one in the picture, Cloudcars sent me the picture as soon as the prop was > done. Glad to hear the performance is good. > > As to delivery - by luck I called out of the blue about one day before > they were doing a run of scimitar props, so mine took hardly any time at > all. I think I ordered it maybe a month ago. Their service and help on the > phone was excellent. I figured I was in good hands when I mentioned the > A-75 and Jay immediately suggested the same size prop I was going to ask > for anyway; many folks don't know how to prop the A-75. > > Mike D. > > -------- > Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185850#185850 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/our_prop_on_top_517.bmp > > >


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    Time: 11:06:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Brussels 2008
    From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    To all within travelling distance: Just a reminder that the Brussels Pietenpol gathering is less than two weeks away. This (19th) annual event is held at a private grass strip (Armstrong Aerodrome) in the little village of Brussels, Ontario, and is scheduled for Saturday, June 14th (rain date Sunday the 15th). Same laid-back atmosphere as Brodhead, just a bit smaller. Guaranteed to have at least three Piets on site, since there are now three based at the airstrip. Bill C


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    Time: 11:32:18 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Brussels 2008
    One year already? Wow. And be not much further ahead since last fall. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: June 2, 2008 2:03 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brussels 2008 To all within travelling distance: Just a reminder that the Brussels Pietenpol gathering is less than two weeks away. This (19th) annual event is held at a private grass strip (Armstrong Aerodrome) in the little village of Brussels, Ontario, and is scheduled for Saturday, June 14th (rain date Sunday the 15th). Same laid-back atmosphere as Brodhead, just a bit smaller. Guaranteed to have at least three Piets on site, since there are now three based at the airstrip. Bill C


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    Time: 11:37:40 AM PST US
    From: airlion@bellsouth.net
    Subject: Re: Jay Anderson Prop


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    Time: 12:28:44 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: gross wt
    I have flown at about 1275 lbs and also have to add cruise power to mantain alt. Sluggish climb, and higher landing speed to ease it on to the ground. Not as much fun when your that heavy, Feels like its on the edge of it's envelope. That weight was with me 185lbs and a 220 pounder (6ft 4) in the front hole and folded up like a paper clip. With my wife and I it flys like a heavy loaded cub, not too bad and just a touch more power. Shad


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    Time: 07:22:13 PM PST US
    From: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Model A
    Question to the list, with the model A engine what water temp and oil temp are you seeing. The out side air is about 80 degree, and the water temp is up to 200 degrees in the climb and about 190 to 195 stright and level at 1600 RPMs. The oil after about 10 minutes will go up to a185 degrees, if I reduce power and start to land with in a couple of minutes the oil will drop back to 180 degrees. Any and all thoughts please. Chet Hartley / Don Hicks really nice flying machine


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    Time: 07:42:22 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: gross wt
    Thanks for the comparisson numbersguys. Greg, that was on the Rotec Piet. I was having a slight problem with my ASI and Alt. When I got back on the ground, I found a piece of crud in the static port, so I am going to run the test again. It will climb ok but it sure wants to come down fast on approach. I never tested the A-65 to more than 1150 lbs. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: gcardinal To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gross wt Dick, Was this on your Rotec or Continental powered Piet? We've flown NX18235 (A-65 with a cruise prop) at about 1250 -1275 lbs on an 82 deg F. day. Performance was pretty anemic and I don't think I would want to fly it at heavier weights. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Navratil To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: gross wt I did a test today with full fuel and weights in front seat to give me a gross wt of 1310 lbs. at 77 deg. I could tell the plane didnt like this very much. Climb was very sluggish and I had to increase power in cruise to maintain alt. My question, have any of you Corvair guys tried flying to this gross wt? I am curious max gross on others. Yesterday I tried 1250 lbs at 72 deg and got a climb of 400 fpm Today was about 200 fpm. Dick N. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c




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