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1. 02:02 AM - Re: Re: Windshild (walt evans)
2. 04:07 AM - Re: Re: Windshild (Gene & Tammy)
3. 05:40 AM - Windshield (was Windshild) (Bill Church)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: Windshield (was Windshild) (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
5. 06:39 AM - Engines (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
6. 10:24 AM - Re: Windshield (was Windshild) (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
7. 11:40 AM - Re: Windshield (was Windshild) (Rick Holland)
8. 11:52 AM - rotary engine in a Piet anyone? (Michael Silvius)
9. 11:57 AM - Re: Windshield (was Windshild) (Phillips, Jack)
10. 12:21 PM - Re: Windshield (was Windshild) (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
11. 01:54 PM - Re: 164 corvair engine (Barry Davis)
12. 03:09 PM - Re: Windshield (was Windshild) (walt evans)
13. 03:25 PM - Re: Engines (jimd)
14. 03:41 PM - 110hp corvair motors (TGSTONE236@aol.com)
15. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: Engines (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=)
16. 07:59 PM - Re: Radio Help (Dick Navratil)
17. 08:00 PM - Re: Radio Help (Dick Navratil)
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When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included, that
what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jimd" <jlducey@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshild
>
> I am at the same stage.. posted a while back and got a lot of pictures but
> no templates or good mounting ideas. Made a windshield, but not too crazy
> about it.
>
> Could I get the same info? Be nice if it was in some format it could stay
> on the forum and be usable for, but I would be happy with it any way could
> get it.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186108#186108
>
>
>
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Jim. If you would like one send me your address and I'll send you the
pattern off of mine, if I have time before I leave sunday. It may or may
not be what your looking for but it could be a good start. I'm happy with
it but that doesn't mean you will be. As far as mounting, it is mounted
using 4 angled braces attached to the combing.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "jimd" <jlducey@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshild
>
> I am at the same stage.. posted a while back and got a lot of pictures but
> no templates or good mounting ideas. Made a windshield, but not too crazy
> about it.
>
> Could I get the same info? Be nice if it was in some format it could stay
> on the forum and be usable for, but I would be happy with it any way could
> get it.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186108#186108
>
>
> --
> Checked by AVG.
> 7:06 AM
>
>
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Subject: | ol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject line. Typos
like that drive me nuts.
Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not include any
information regarding windshields. If it is something that they used to
include with the plans, they must have discontinued doing it (or at least
they didn't do it when I ordered my plans four years ago). Or maybe they
just like Walt more than me.
Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now, shouldn't I have
more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab and elevators? I
seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a five-to-ten year
project, but at this rate who knows how long it will take. Oh well, I'm
having a lot of fun with it whenever I do get a chance to work on it.
Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a windshield design,
and building it, when I get to that stage. For now, I'm just studying
various designs and figuring out what I like and don't like.
Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in Brussels.
Sixthly, . I think that's enough for now.
Bill C
-----Original Message-----
When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included, that
what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: tenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
Gentlemen and esteemed members of the Pietenpol community
I am not ready for my wind screens yet, however with this a golden
opportunity to gain insight into what be a daunting task of design I too wou
ld like a
copy of any plans, patterns or other design device being circulated that
would assist, when the time comes.
My plans did not include anything remotely resembling a design for a wind
screen. Anyone willing to share their copy I would love to have a one if
possible and certainly willing to pay for postage and copy costs associated
with
that.
Thanks in advance
John Recine
NX895BP reserved
Building, Scrounging, Buying and Improvising when time permits get my Piet
flying!
In a message dated 6/4/2008 8:41:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
eng@canadianrogers.com writes:
First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject line. Typos
like that drive me nuts.
Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not include any
information regarding windshields. If it is something that they used to inc
lude
with the plans, they must have discontinued doing it (or at least they didn
't
do it when I ordered my plans four years ago). Or maybe they just like Walt
more than me.
Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now, shouldn't I hav
e
more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab and elevators? I
seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a five-to-ten year proj
ect,
but at this rate who knows how long it will take. Oh well, I'm having a lot
of fun with it whenever I do get a chance to work on it.
Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a windshield design,
and building it, when I get to that stage. For now, I'm just studying vario
us
designs and figuring out what I like and don't like.
Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in Brussels.
Sixthly, I think that's enough for now.
Bill C
-----Original Message-----
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included, that
what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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Is there anyone in esteemed Piet world flying an 0235 engine or anything
close to that size and hp rating? I have many questions that can only be
answered though experience.
Thanks
John
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Subject: | Re: tenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
Walt,
Is it possible to scan a copy of your windshield plans and post it on the l
ist for others to download?
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
--- On Wed, 6/4/08, AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com> wrote:
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild)
Gentlemen and esteemed members of the Pietenpol community
I am not ready for my wind screens yet, however with this a golden opportun
ity to gain insight into what be a daunting task of design I too would like
a copy of any plans, patterns or other design device being circulated that
would assist, when the time comes.
My plans did not include anything remotely resembling a design for a wind s
creen. Anyone willing to share their copy I would love to have a one if pos
sible and certainly willing to pay for postage and copy costs associated wi
th that.
Thanks in advance
John Recine
NX895BP reserved
Building, Scrounging, Buying and Improvising when time permits get my Piet
flying!
In a message dated 6/4/2008 8:41:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eng@canadia
nrogers.com writes:
First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject line. Typos li
ke that drive me nuts.
Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not include any inf
ormation regarding windshields. If it is something that they used to includ
e with the plans, they must have discontinued doing it (or at least they di
dn't do it when I ordered my plans four years ago). Or maybe they just like
Walt more than me.
Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now, shouldn't I hav
e more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab and elevators? I
seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a five-to-ten year proj
ect, but at this rate who knows how long it will take. Oh well, I'm having
a lot of fun with it whenever I do get a chance to work on it.
Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a windshield design,
and building it, when I get to that stage. For now, I'm just studying vari
ous designs and figuring out what I like and don't like.
Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in Brussels.
Sixthly, =85 I think that's enough for now.
Bill C
-----Original Message-----
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.n
et>
When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included, that
what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.ma
tron.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence"
on AOL Food.
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Subject: | Re: tenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
Bill
You think designing your own windscreen is a big deal, just wait till you
get to design and build your own cowling. Especially if you plan on doing a
glass nosebowl of some kind, then you get to learn glass layup, sheet metal
cutting/bending, riveting, and 3-D spatial geometry all at the same time. I
am also interested in windscreen designs. I think Mike Cuy's is the simples
t
and what I will try to copy.
Rick
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
>
>
> First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject line. Typos
> like that drive me nuts.
>
> Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not include any
> information regarding windshields. If it is something that they used to
> include with the plans, they must have discontinued doing it (or at least
> they didn't do it when I ordered my plans four years ago). Or maybe they
> just like Walt more than me.
>
> Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now, shouldn't I
> have more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab and elevator
s?
> I seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a five-to-ten year
> project, but at this rate who knows how long it will take. Oh well, I'm
> having a lot of fun with it whenever I do get a chance to work on it.
>
> Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a windshield desig
n,
> and building it, when I get to that stage. For now, I'm just studying
> various designs and figuring out what I like and don't like.
>
> Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in Brussels.
>
> Sixthly, =85 I think that's enough for now.
>
> Bill C
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included, tha
t
> what I used.
> Works well.
> Walt Evans
> NX140DL
>
> *
>
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>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Subject: | rotary engine in a Piet anyone? |
http://www.contactmagazine.com/backissu.html
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Subject: | tenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
In my experience, the cowling was a piece of cake compared to making the
frames for the three-piece style windshield. But then, my cowling is
like Mike Cuy's - all sheet aluminum. I try to avoid fiberglass
wherever possible.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild)
Bill
You think designing your own windscreen is a big deal, just wait till
you get to design and build your own cowling. Especially if you plan on
doing a glass nosebowl of some kind, then you get to learn glass layup,
sheet metal cutting/bending, riveting, and 3-D spatial geometry all at
the same time. I am also interested in windscreen designs. I think Mike
Cuy's is the simplest and what I will try to copy.
Rick
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
wrote:
First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject line. Typos
like that drive me nuts.
Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not include any
information regarding windshields. If it is something that they used to
include with the plans, they must have discontinued doing it (or at
least they didn't do it when I ordered my plans four years ago). Or
maybe they just like Walt more than me.
Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now, shouldn't I
have more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab and
elevators? I seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a
five-to-ten year project, but at this rate who knows how long it will
take. Oh well, I'm having a lot of fun with it whenever I do get a
chance to work on it.
Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a windshield
design, and building it, when I get to that stage. For now, I'm just
studying various designs and figuring out what I like and don't like.
Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in Brussels.
Sixthly, ... I think that's enough for now.
Bill C
-----Original Message-----
When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included,
that what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: tenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
Jack
Any hints on bending the sheet Aluminum to fit? That's what I plan on using
also.
John
In a message dated 6/4/2008 2:59:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com writes:
In my experience, the cowling was a piece of cake compared to making the
frames for the three-piece style windshield. But then, my cowling is like
Mike
Cuy=99s =93 all sheet aluminum. I try to avoid fiberglass wher
ever possible.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
____________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild)
Bill
You think designing your own windscreen is a big deal, just wait till you
get to design and build your own cowling. Especially if you plan on doing a
glass nosebowl of some kind, then you get to learn glass layup, sheet metal
cutting/bending, riveting, and 3-D spatial geometry all at the same time. I
am
also interested in windscreen designs. I think Mike Cuy's is the simplest a
nd
what I will try to copy.
Rick
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Bill Church <_eng@canadianrogers.com_
(mailto:eng@canadianrogers.com) > wrote:
First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject line. Typos
like that drive me nuts.
Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not include any
information regarding windshields. If it is something that they used to inc
lude
with the plans, they must have discontinued doing it (or at least they didn
't
do it when I ordered my plans four years ago). Or maybe they just like Walt
more than me.
Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now, shouldn't I hav
e
more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab and elevators? I
seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a five-to-ten year proj
ect,
but at this rate who knows how long it will take. Oh well, I'm having a lot
of fun with it whenever I do get a chance to work on it.
Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a windshield design,
and building it, when I get to that stage. For now, I'm just studying vario
us
designs and figuring out what I like and don't like.
Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in Brussels.
Sixthly, I think that's enough for now.
Bill C
-----Original Message-----
(mailto:waltdak@verizon.net) >
When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print included, that
what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: 164 corvair engine |
What is the price for these motors?
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: TGSTONE236@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 164 corvair engine
I just got back to Wilmington NC with a 1964 Corvair 110 hp motor
that I bought in Lexington NC today. If you are serious about wanting a
motor, Barry Owens has plenty of the ones we need for aircraft use or
otherwise.
here is the information: Barry Owens
Cell # 336-250-966
358 Dixon St
Lexington NC 27292
hope this may help someone
Ted Stone /at work on Pietenpol
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Subject: | Re: tenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild) |
Kenneth,
Sure , I can do that.
Won't be CAD or anything, but I can scan it on a crosshatch layout, that
can be reproduced.
I'll get to it now.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild)
Walt,
Is it possible to scan a copy of your windshield plans and post
it on the list for others to download?
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
--- On Wed, 6/4/08, AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com> wrote:
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Windshield (was Windshild)
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 8:16 AM
Gentlemen and esteemed members of the Pietenpol community
I am not ready for my wind screens yet, however with this a
golden opportunity to gain insight into what be a daunting task of
design I too would like a copy of any plans, patterns or other design
device being circulated that would assist, when the time comes.
My plans did not include anything remotely resembling a design
for a wind screen. Anyone willing to share their copy I would love to
have a one if possible and certainly willing to pay for postage and copy
costs associated with that.
Thanks in advance
John Recine
NX895BP reserved
Building, Scrounging, Buying and Improvising when time permits
get my Piet flying!
In a message dated 6/4/2008 8:41:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight
Time, eng@canadianrogers.com writes:
First off, I just had to correct the spelling in the subject
line. Typos like that drive me nuts.
Secondly, (unlike Walt) my plans from Don Pietenpol did not
include any information regarding windshields. If it is something that
they used to include with the plans, they must have discontinued doing
it (or at least they didn't do it when I ordered my plans four years
ago). Or maybe they just like Walt more than me.
Thirdly, since I've had my plans for almost four years now,
shouldn't I have more to show than a bunch of ribs and a horizontal stab
and elevators? I seem to remember thinking that this was going to be a
five-to-ten year project, but at this rate who knows how long it will
take. Oh well, I'm having a lot of fun with it whenever I do get a
chance to work on it.
Fourthly, I'm actually looking forward to figuring out a
windshield design, and building it, when I get to that stage. For now,
I'm just studying various designs and figuring out what I like and don't
like.
Fifthly, I'm really looking forward to next Saturday in
Brussels.
Sixthly, =85 I think that's enough for now.
Bill C
-----Original Message-----
<waltdak@verizon.net>
When I ordered my Pietenpol plans, I got a windshield print
included, that what I used.
Works well.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
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ron.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
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Hi,
Dick N. has a radial running in his plane, think its about same hp. Chad Wille's
aerial has a 6 cyl continental in it. Those are about same size/hp and actually
flying.
My biplane project has a 125hp Enma Tigre, but its not flying yet and is a metal
tube frame GN-1, so not quite the same.
What questions are you trying to answer.. seems like the guys in this group are
pretty knowlegable.
Jim
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Subject: | 110hp corvair motors |
Like most anything you want to buy is what you are willing to pay, do a
little haggling as all things are negotiable. I could not get one as cheap as
WW
says he can get one . But I think I got one in good shape,free turning at a
price I was willing to pay, that I could go pick up with in 200 miles from
home.
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Interested in bulkhead and firewall improvments made if any to support the additional
torque and hp generated by non traditional engines being the model A by
design
Also the ultimate prop for climb config on a heavier wide body piet
John
Yes I know props are fr
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From: "jimd" <jlducey@hotmail.com>
To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engines
Hi,
Dick N. has a radial running in his plane, think its about same hp. Chad Wille's
aerial has a 6 cyl continental in it. Those are about same size/hp and actually
flying.
My biplane project has a 125hp Enma Tigre, but its not flying yet and is a metal
tube frame GN-1, so not quite the same.
What questions are you trying to answer.. seems like the guys in this group are
pretty knowlegable.
Jim
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Jim
I have 2 Piets so there are 2 answers. On my first, the ground plate is
behind the rear seat. It is formed and serves as the inspection cover
on the bottom of the fuse from the rounded section of plywood floor to
the next cross member aft. On the new Piet, the plate is on the floor
and is what you step on in front of the rear seat. It also serves as
floor stiffiner as some use a steel strap to re enforce the aft landing
gear beam.
I have a plywood cover inside the cockpit that forms a map holder. It's
an idea I borrowed from Mike Cuy. In both cases, the antenna sitts in
there right next to the radio.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Lagowski Morrow
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help
Dick, many thanks for sharing your experience! I've decided to try
the same approach and postpone getting new mags, wiring harness and
plugs.
Where did you put the antenna and ground plane?--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help
Many others will have great suggestions, but I just went thru this
problem and found 2 things that made a world of difference. First, I
took of the hand held antenna aninstalles a full sized VHF antenna.
Second, I grounded the antenna to a horizontal ground plate, approx
24"x18"
I went from having so much static that I couldnt communicate more
that 1/2 mi., to hearing traffic 25+ mi out.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lagowski Morrow
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help
I just learned that I may have a problem communicating from my
Piet that has a 65 Continental with Bendix-Scintilla mags, unshielded
wiring and old time ceramic plugs. My intention was to use my handheld
radio with a plugged in headset. I have been advised that the static
will be so bad that I will basically be unable to communicate. What to
do since I will not fly without being able to transmit and receive
clearly. I would like to avoid the expense of new mags, shielded wiring
and new shielded plugs. I'm about a month away from engine fireup.
Am I stuck with getting new stuff or is there an alternative(s)
out there?--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT
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Steve
You are right and thats how I installed it.
Dick
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From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help
Dick,
Could you please clarify your comment on the ground? The antenna
shouldn't actually be grounded to a plate, right? What you want to do
is attach the coax shielding (the outer braid) to a "ground plane" or
plate at the base of the antenna. The antenna itself and the coax
center signal wire should be insulated from everything else,
particularly the ground plane.
That is how I installed my antenna, it is on the bottom of the nose,
~30" behind the prop. It is an 1/8" brass brazing rod, routed through
two nylon bushings or "sleeves" that I bought at Home Depot. It all
cost me about $4, and I can transmit up to 125 nautical miles air to
air.
I bought an antenna book from RST Engineering for about $10 I believe.
It had good and relatively brief and simple explanations on how to
build several very effective antennas for aircraft. The book was very
well worth it. I don't see it on their website, but I'm sure you
could call or e-mail them about it. Three keys that stick in my mind
are 1) have a good ground plane 2) the antenna must be the proper
length and 3) keep the tip of the antenna away from other metal parts.
http://www.rst-engr.com/
Steve Ruse
Quoting Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>:
> Dick, many thanks for sharing your experience! I've decided to try the
> same approach and postpone getting new mags, wiring harness and plugs.
>
> Where did you put the antenna and ground plane?--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dick Navratil
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help
>
>
> Many others will have great suggestions, but I just went thru this
> problem and found 2 things that made a world of difference. First, I
> took of the hand held antenna aninstalles a full sized VHF antenna.
> Second, I grounded the antenna to a horizontal ground plate, approx
> 24"x18"
> I went from having so much static that I couldnt communicate more that
> 1/2 mi., to hearing traffic 25+ mi out.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lagowski Morrow
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radio Help
>
>
> I just learned that I may have a problem communicating from my Piet
> that has a 65 Continental with Bendix-Scintilla mags, unshielded wiring
> and old time ceramic plugs. My intention was to use my handheld radio
> with a plugged in headset. I have been advised that the static will be so
> bad that I will basically be unable to communicate. What to do since I
> will not fly without being able to transmit and receive clearly. I would
> like to avoid the expense of new mags, shielded wiring and new shielded
> plugs. I'm about a month away from engine fireup.
>
> Am I stuck with getting new stuff or is there an alternative(s) out
> there?--Jim Lagowski, NX221PT
>
>
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