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1. 06:03 AM - Barber Field Fly-In (shad bell)
2. 07:18 AM - Water in the gas (was no subject) (David Paule)
3. 01:23 PM - Re: Barber Field Fly-In (Don Emch)
4. 02:18 PM - inline fuel filters (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 02:39 PM - Re: inline fuel filters (Gene & Tammy)
6. 07:34 PM - tubing size for shoulder harness assys. (Tim Willis)
7. 08:35 PM - Re: Re: Barber Field Fly-In (shad bell)
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| Subject: | Barber Field Fly-In |
Don, Are you still planning on going to the fly-in at barber this Saturday? I
am still planning on leaving here at7-7:30 weather permitting. I hope to be there
by 9am and will stay a couple hours, and try to beat the thunderstorm build
up in the afternoon, and head home. Do you know if they are serving breakfast?
See you tommorow
Shad
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| Subject: | Water in the gas (was no subject) |
The water separating filters for boats are usually aimed at diesel fuel
systems. Check before use to ensure they'd be compatible with gasoline. Most
boats don't have sump drain valves that an operator can actually access. If
it were me, I'd not install one.
Make sure that your fuel vent, the fuel caps and any fuel quantity sensor
(e.g., Cub wire on a float) do not permit water to get into the tank. All
those are possible entry points. You could do worse than find a Cessna's
fuel system diagram and duplicate it.
The amount of fuel that's "right" is based on your bladder, which will
easily tell you when to land. You want more fuel than that. If you plan to
use the plane as a real cross-country airplane then you want more fuel yet,
so that you can go somewhere in the back country and fly back out to a fuel
stop.
I don't have a Pietenpol. My plane is a Cessna Skywagon, and it has about
four hours fuel. This is marginal; I'd be more comfortable with six. My
bladder is good for about three. I do carry a pee bottle.
I have had this plane for more than twenty years. I have rarely had water in
my fuel. I drain the fuel tanks and the sump, of course, and have had both
tanks replaced or drained for other maintenance, with no water found.
David Paule
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Douwe wrote -
I'm really gunshy about water in my gas because I've heard of so many
accidents caused by this. Recently I've been looking at accessories for
outboard boat motors and noticed they use "water seperating filters" which
look much like a regular oil filter in a similar housing, which could mount
on the firewall before the gascolator.
Does anyone know how these work, and is it completely redundant since we
have sumps and drains in the tank and in the gascolator, or is it a good bit
of extra insurance? They weigh a few pounds.
Also, I'd really appreciate any input regarding the amount of endurance that
seems right? Leaving 30 minutes of fuel in my tank, which is cutting it
awefully close for my taste, will give me about two and a half to three
hours.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Barber Field Fly-In |
Hey Shad,
Well I'm getting a little discouraged by the line of thunderbumpers moving our
way. It looks like they are calling for a good chance of them by 8 or 9 in the
morning. I'm thinking I may skip church, er have church in the airplane, and
head over on Sunday. Sunday seems to look better for the thunderstorms. I
think Skip was planning to go then too. What do you think?
Don
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| Subject: | inline fuel filters |
Hey,
I have seen, and was planning on placing a small inline fuel filter on each
of my lines leaving the tank where I could see them, as added insurance.
Dick N. said his DAR made him remove these, though I have seen them on
others.
Has anyone else tried using these?
Douwe
ps, thanks Dick for your word of caution, I'd hate to have to redo my fuel
system!!
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| Subject: | Re: inline fuel filters |
Douwe, I owned and flew an Avid for a number of years that I placed clear
in-line filters in the line from the wing tanks. I placed them at eye level
so I could clearly seem them. Never had a problem but changed them twice a
year anyway. Also, I had a written preflight list that I followed and they
were on the list to check. I don't have them on my Piet because I wouldn't
be able to see them in flight.
Gene
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| Subject: | tubing size for shoulder harness assys. |
What diameter and wall thickness are you all using in the steel tubing to fabricate
the PILOT shoulder harness?
And, similar question for the PASSENGER shoulder harness, for those of you using
something like the UK design?
I have the pictures and the descriptions already. Now I am trying to have enough
strength of materials to stop even half my flabby upper body in a worst case.
Thanks, Tim in central TX
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| Subject: | Re: Barber Field Fly-In |
I will have to wait untill the morning to find out what I will do. Not sure what
the wife has planned for me on sunday. Let me know if your going via email
in the morning, and I can decide. 100 miles in a piet, dodging T-Storms can
be a hell of a trip, and I'd rather not fill the cockpit with water, tear up the
airplane, or poop my pants, so I will decide in the morning after a good look
at the radar. If you and Skipp are going on Sunday I can hold out untill then
and meet you up there. Skipp if you get this let me know if you want to meet
up at Chapman Memorial and fly up togeather sunday morning.
Shad
Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
Hey Shad,
Well I'm getting a little discouraged by the line of thunderbumpers moving our
way. It looks like they are calling for a good chance of them by 8 or 9 in the
morning. I'm thinking I may skip church, er have church in the airplane, and
head over on Sunday. Sunday seems to look better for the thunderstorms. I think
Skip was planning to go then too. What do you think?
Don
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186556#186556
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