Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 06/08/08


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 01:07 AM - Re: First Flight (Peter W Johnson)
     2. 03:24 AM - Re: First Flight (pietflyr@bellsouth.net)
     3. 03:45 AM - Re: First Flight (Lagowski Morrow)
     4. 04:20 AM - Gene Hubbard's first flight (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
     5. 07:10 AM - Have to share my morning (walt evans)
     6. 07:31 AM - Re: Have to share my morning (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
     7. 08:34 AM - Re: First Flight (walt evans)
     8. 09:53 AM - Re: Have to share my morning (Don Emch)
     9. 10:13 AM - Piet pilot lands on aircraft carrier (Oscar Zuniga)
    10. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Have to share my morning (walt evans)
    11. 10:50 AM - Re: Have to share my morning (walt evans)
    12. 10:56 AM - Re: First Flight (Don Emch)
    13. 11:50 AM - Re: Piet pilot lands on aircraft carrier (Rob Stapleton, Jr.)
    14. 02:26 PM - DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets (shad bell)
    15. 02:35 PM - Re: First Flight (shad bell)
    16. 04:13 PM - Re: Have to share my morning (Pastor M F Townsley)
    17. 04:45 PM - Re: First Flight (Dick Navratil)
    18. 06:18 PM - Re: First Flight (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    19. 06:53 PM - Re: DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets (Don Emch)
    20. 07:18 PM - First Flight (Oscar Zuniga)
    21. 10:00 PM - Re: inline fuel filters (Steve Ruse)
    22. 10:02 PM - Re: inline fuel filters (Steve Ruse)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:07:12 AM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: First Flight
    Gene, Well done! Hope they all go well. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Hubbard Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight Just a quick note that N421GN made its first flight this morning at Brown Field in San Diego. Long fuselage, powered by a Continental C-75. Got the plans in April 1999. Many thanks to Sparky (Manuel Sparks) for making the first flight and making it look good. Just a few adjustments, then I'm looking forward to many more flights to come. Gene Hubbard San Diego


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    Time: 03:24:42 AM PST US
    From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
    Subject: Re: First Flight


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    Time: 03:45:54 AM PST US
    From: "Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    CONGRATS!--JIM LAGOWSKI Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight > <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> > > Just a quick note that N421GN made its first flight this morning at Brown > Field in San Diego. Long fuselage, powered by a Continental C-75. Got > the plans in April 1999. Many thanks to Sparky (Manuel Sparks) for making > the first flight and making it look good. Just a few adjustments, then > I'm looking forward to many more flights to come. > > Gene Hubbard > San Diego > > > -- > Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM >


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    Time: 04:20:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Gene Hubbard's first flight
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Excellent news Gene----you've kept at it for many years and you didn't sell your project, you didn't let go of the dream and now is your big PAYOFF time ! Enjoy it !!! Mike C. in Ohio


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    Time: 07:10:48 AM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Have to share my morning
    Went up this morning to scope out a stream for a kyacking friend of mine. Also threw in a shot, all of the builders dream about, and the flyers never get used to seeing. Then my friend took the landing Walt Evans NX140DL "Let's Legalize Freedom"


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    Time: 07:31:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Have to share my morning
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Fantastic shot of your landing Walt !!!!!!!!! That's a magazine cover in my book.... Mike C. in Ohio


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    Time: 08:34:19 AM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    Gene, Congratulations!! This is a feeling you'll never forget. Thumbs up!!!! Walt Evans NX140DL "Let's Legalize Freedom" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight > <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> > > Just a quick note that N421GN made its first flight this morning at Brown > Field in San Diego. Long fuselage, powered by a Continental C-75. Got > the plans in April 1999. Many thanks to Sparky (Manuel Sparks) for making > the first flight and making it look good. Just a few adjustments, then > I'm looking forward to many more flights to come. > > Gene Hubbard > San Diego > > >


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    Time: 09:53:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Have to share my morning
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hey Walt, I wish my morning flight was as enjoyable as yours looked. It was so rough on mine I thought I was going to puke! What is that thing mounted on your cabane and diagonal strut? Isn't that 'golden hour' in the early, early morning the best time?! Don E. in windy, bumpy Ohio Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186808#186808


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    Time: 10:13:55 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Piet pilot lands on aircraft carrier
    Well, so that's stretching the truth just a tad, but notice I said Piet PILOT, not the Piet itself ;o) While visiting with friends up in Anacortes, WA for the last week or so (he's a Marine aviator, instructor, and electronic countermeasures officer) I got about an hour of stick time in the EA-6B "Prowler" simulator at Whidbey Island NAS. You talk about incredible! I had never "flown" anything like this before and did pretty darned good! This was not a video game; the cockpit is complete and accurate and although it isn't a full motion simulator, the view is panoramic and photorealistic and the engine sounds in the headset are accurate. I shot a virtual touch and go (VFR) to the main runway at Whidbey, then "flew" the jet over to SeaTac for another visual approach and landing, then the sim operator put us out at sea for carrier landings and I got to shoot about a half-dozen of them. I didn't hit anything, didn't put the airplane in the drink, and had a great time flying. It was really amazing. I managed to hook a wire on my last attempt at landing on the carrier deck, but made the mistake of failing to go to full power when the gear hit the deck. That is counter-intuitive for a Piet pilot, just like holding speed and attitude all the way to touchdown (no flare). The cool thing is that the sim operator (the voice in the headset, not my buddy in the right seat) asked me "flying left seat, you're obviously a private pilot, what do you fly?". Figuring he didn't know from nothin' in the civilian world, I just said "small single-engine aircraft" and that was that until my buddy mentioned "Pietenpol" and the sim operator started chatting about how he and a friend wanted to buy one and were working on a deal when the airplane was lost in a hangar fire. From then on he talked to me a bit more on technique, helpfully telling me that landing to the carrier deck is pretty much just a short/soft field landing and to treat it like that. Very nice guy, and I shook his hand after the sim session and told him my tail number was 41CC. Anyway, after getting my fuel shutoff valve replaced yesterday, even with winds 15 gusting to 20 in a 10 degree x-wind, I flew 41CC to some of my best approaches and landings ever. I flew three touch and goes at my home field, parked the airplane to make sure my fuel valve wasn't leaking and everything was airworthy, flew over to a nearby field to fuel up, then came back and shot two more landings that were very satisfying. I guess that simulator time did me some good! It sure is fun to fly Piets... and to hear that they are known and loved far and wide. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 10:47:15 AM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Have to share my morning
    That's a holder for my video cam. Yeah, I perfer flying in the early AM. Guess it's my Church. The sites that you see are truely moving. Walt Evans NX140DL "Let's Legalize Freedom" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Have to share my morning > > Hey Walt, > > I wish my morning flight was as enjoyable as yours looked. It was so > rough on mine I thought I was going to puke! What is that thing mounted > on your cabane and diagonal strut? Isn't that 'golden hour' in the early, > early morning the best time?! > > Don E. in windy, bumpy Ohio > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186808#186808 > > >


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    Time: 10:50:04 AM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Have to share my morning
    Thanks Mike, Yeah my cheesy digital pics of the valley were alright, but My friend Joyces landing pic was pro. That's what she does, and does well Walt Evans NX140DL "Let's Legalize Freedom" ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Have to share my morning Fantastic shot of your landing Walt !!!!!!!!! That's a magazine cover in my book.... Mike C. in Ohio


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    Time: 10:56:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Gene, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186824#186824


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    Time: 11:50:49 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Stapleton, Jr." <foto@alaska.net>
    Subject: Piet pilot lands on aircraft carrier
    Oscar, Way cool. Thanks for sharing your experience. I have flown the C-208 simulator, the FedEx MD-11 sim, and most recently the DC-6 simulator, the last operable one in the world. It's amazing when you realize that you are sweating while flying these sims just to get a heading or make a good landing...but I did. See: http://www.alaskajournal.com/stories/050408/hom_20080504001.shtml Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist Anchorage, Alaska 907-230-9425 KL2AN Skype:rob.stapleton.jr IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet pilot lands on aircraft carrier Well, so that's stretching the truth just a tad, but notice I said Piet PILOT, not the Piet itself ;o) While visiting with friends up in Anacortes, WA for the last week or so (he's a Marine aviator, instructor, and electronic countermeasures officer) I got about an hour of stick time in the EA-6B "Prowler" simulator at Whidbey Island NAS. You talk about incredible! I had never "flown" anything like this before and did pretty darned good! This was not a video game; the cockpit is complete and accurate and although it isn't a full motion simulator, the view is panoramic and photorealistic and the engine sounds in the headset are accurate. I shot a virtual touch and go (VFR) to the main runway at Whidbey, then "flew" the jet over to SeaTac for another visual approach and landing, then the sim operator put us out at sea for carrier landings and I got to shoot about a half-dozen of them. I didn't hit anything, didn't put the airplane in the drink, and had a great time flyin! g. It was really amazing. I managed to hook a wire on my last attempt at landing on the carrier deck, but made the mistake of failing to go to full power when the gear hit the deck. That is counter-intuitive for a Piet pilot, just like holding speed and attitude all the way to touchdown (no flare). The cool thing is that the sim operator (the voice in the headset, not my buddy in the right seat) asked me "flying left seat, you're obviously a private pilot, what do you fly?". Figuring he didn't know from nothin' in the civilian world, I just said "small single-engine aircraft" and that was that until my buddy mentioned "Pietenpol" and the sim operator started chatting about how he and a friend wanted to buy one and were working on a deal when the airplane was lost in a hangar fire. From then on he talked to me a bit more on technique, helpfully telling me that landing to the carrier deck is pretty much just a short/soft field landing and to treat it like that. Very nice gu! y, and I shook his hand after the sim session and told him my tail number was 41CC. Anyway, after getting my fuel shutoff valve replaced yesterday, even with winds 15 gusting to 20 in a 10 degree x-wind, I flew 41CC to some of my best approaches and landings ever. I flew three touch and goes at my home field, parked the airplane to make sure my fuel valve wasn't leaking and everything was airworthy, flew over to a nearby field to fuel up, then came back and shot two more landings that were very satisfying. I guess that simulator time did me some good! It sure is fun to fly Piets... and to hear that they are known and loved far and wide. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 02:26:47 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets
    Mike, Skipp, Don, Frank P., Mr Stevens (Belpree OH), DLZ is having a fly in in August (forget exsact date but will find out) And Dad is helping with the planning for the EAA chapter. He is wanting to see if we can get some piets togeather for some fly-by's and maybe some brodhead style loose formation fly overs. DLZ is just north of Columbus Ohio about 25 miles. If any one needs to camp your welcome to camp at my house at Chapman Field which is only 20 miles from DLZ. If anyone is interested let me know. If we time it right we can tie up the pattern right about the time the Group of "Erector set aviators", I mean RV'ators arive from there ego trip, and totally disregard any parking instructions that fly-in staff give them. SORRY for the RV bashing not all are that way, just the "LOOK AT ME" group that flys around here. Shad


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    Time: 02:35:19 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    Gene, Congradulations on you accomplishment!! Not many can say they built and flew an aircraft. Now go and test her out real good and have as much fun as your wallet allows. Shad (NX92GB) Central Ohio > > > Just a quick note that N421GN made its first flight this morning at Brown > Field in San Diego. Long fuselage, powered by a Continental C-75. Got > the plans in April 1999. Many thanks to Sparky (Manuel Sparks) for making > the first flight and making it look good. Just a few adjustments, then > I'm looking forward to many more flights to come. > > Gene Hubbard > San Diego > > >


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    Time: 04:13:33 PM PST US
    From: Pastor M F Townsley <miket@southslope.net>
    Subject: Re: Have to share my morning
    Oh Man these are great pics Walt! Thanks, And George congrats on the first flights!! Way to go! Mike in Iowa walt evans wrote: > Went up this morning to scope out a stream for a kyacking friend of mine. > Also threw in a shot, all of the builders dream about, and the flyers > never get used to seeing. > Then my friend took the landing > Walt Evans > NX140DL > > "Let's Legalize Freedom" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >


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    Time: 04:45:30 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    Good goin Gene. How about posting a pic or two. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight > <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> > > Just a quick note that N421GN made its first flight this morning at Brown > Field in San Diego. Long fuselage, powered by a Continental C-75. Got > the plans in April 1999. Many thanks to Sparky (Manuel Sparks) for making > the first flight and making it look good. Just a few adjustments, then > I'm looking forward to many more flights to come. > > Gene Hubbard > San Diego > > >


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    Time: 06:18:45 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    Congratulations Gene, that's an inspiration to us all that are still building John Recine **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)


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    Time: 06:53:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    According to the EAA website the Fly-in is on August 23. I'm marking my calendar. I camp out sounds like fun! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186906#186906


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    Time: 07:18:37 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: First Flight
    Gene; wonderful news! Another low and slow airplane takes to the air... always great news. Having not flown in quite some time when I got my checkout in 41CC, my instructor started me making approaches at 65-70 MPH... just a little down from cruise speed... until I could judge the sink rate when the power came off. It results in lots of float and pucker, but don't get the airplane too slow until you get a good feel for how it acts with power off. Mike Cuy's and Don Emch's recommendations on airspeeds are right on, and I quote: "My numbers on final are exactly what Don Emch quoted in carrying 60 mph on final gives some time in the flare float and is helpful on windy days when the gusts can go to a lull and that extra few mph helps not to 'drop out' if you get behind trees that shield the wind or just hit a lull. 55 mph is the sweet spot for my Piet giving enough time to feel for the runway but not enough to contemplate life and 50 gives you no grace, no second chances, no call from governor, or no kitchen pass from embarrassing touchdowns but if executed properly yields a very short landing roll." Having just flown 41CC in some 15 gusting to 20 winds with a bit of a crosswind, I can heartily endorse the above numbers. Now go and do the same!! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 10:00:41 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
    Subject: Re: inline fuel filters
    Douwe, If you use them, be sure you measure your fuel flow rate, and make sure it is substantially more than adequate, particularly with the lowest fuel level you ever plan on flying with, as that will result in your lowest fuel pressure. I used a 3-gallon bucket and stopwatch to measure my flow rate. You want to disconnect the fuel line at the carb, and keep it at the same height as the carb inlet. Steve Ruse Norman, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: inline fuel filters > <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> > > Hey, > > I have seen, and was planning on placing a small inline fuel filter on > each > of my lines leaving the tank where I could see them, as added insurance. > Dick N. said his DAR made him remove these, though I have seen them on > others. > > Has anyone else tried using these? > > Douwe > > ps, thanks Dick for your word of caution, I'd hate to have to redo my fuel > system!! > > >


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    Time: 10:02:17 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
    Subject: Re: inline fuel filters
    As an alternative to a fuel filter, Aircraft Spruce sells a 74 micron gascolator screen. I know it isn't as effective as a paper filter, but it is a very fine screen, and only $2.70. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/gascolatorScreen.php Steve Ruse Norman, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: inline fuel filters > <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> > > Hey, > > I have seen, and was planning on placing a small inline fuel filter on > each > of my lines leaving the tank where I could see them, as added insurance. > Dick N. said his DAR made him remove these, though I have seen them on > others. > > Has anyone else tried using these? > > Douwe > > ps, thanks Dick for your word of caution, I'd hate to have to redo my fuel > system!! > > >




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