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1. 03:26 AM - Re: tubing size for shoulder harness assys. (HelsperSew@aol.com)
2. 04:27 AM - first flight (donald lane)
3. 04:28 AM - Re: First Flight (Phillips, Jack)
4. 05:04 AM - first flight (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 06:05 AM - Re: tubing size for shoulder harness assys. (Tim Willis)
6. 06:21 AM - Re: tubing size for shoulder harness assys. (HelsperSew@aol.com)
7. 06:27 AM - Love hate List (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
8. 07:03 AM - Re: DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets (Skip Gadd)
9. 09:07 AM - Re: Hegy prop (Skip Gadd)
10. 09:29 AM - Re: Love hate List (walt evans)
11. 11:03 AM - Re: Love hate List (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
12. 11:24 AM - Re: Love hate List (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
13. 01:19 PM - tubing size for shoulder harness (Tim Willis)
14. 04:07 PM - Re: tubing size for shoulder harness (Roman Bukolt)
15. 05:07 PM - DLZ Fly in (shad bell)
16. 05:08 PM - Re: Have to share my morning (Ryan Michals)
17. 05:45 PM - go-kart brakes (Douwe Blumberg)
18. 06:00 PM - off topic (walt evans)
19. 06:25 PM - Re: go-kart brakes (walt evans)
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| Subject: | Re: tubing size for shoulder harness assys. |
Tim,
I used .032 4130 tube to fabricate my front seat shoulder harness attach
fixture. This is what the U.K. boys used in their design. My pilot seat harness
is attached all the way back to the tailpost, via a 1/8" cable.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Gene
Congratulations!!
I hope to be there sometime later this year
Don Lane
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Way to go Gene,
For some reason the congrats I sent from my home computer yesterday
didn't come through (it did get struck by lightning a few weeks ago, and
hasn't been the same since).
I hope to be able to see it the next time I'm in San Diego. Are you
going to fly it to Brodhead this year? That would be quite a trip from
San Diego.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt
evans
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First Flight
Gene,
Congratulations!!
This is a feeling you'll never forget.
Thumbs up!!!!
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight
> <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Just a quick note that N421GN made its first flight this morning at
Brown
> Field in San Diego. Long fuselage, powered by a Continental C-75.
Got
> the plans in April 1999. Many thanks to Sparky (Manuel Sparks) for
making
> the first flight and making it look good. Just a few adjustments,
then
> I'm looking forward to many more flights to come.
>
> Gene Hubbard
> San Diego
>
>
>
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Congratulations Gene!
My hat is off to you for finishing, and I wish you many wonderful hours in
the sky!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: tubing size for shoulder harness assys. |
Dan,
Thanks. Actually, your construction is exactly the one I recalled. It lloks very
good.
What is the diameter of the tubing?
Tim in central TX
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-----Original Message-----
>From: HelsperSew@aol.com
>Sent: Jun 9, 2008 5:23 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tubing size for shoulder harness assys.
>
>Tim,
>
>I used .032 4130 tube to fabricate my front seat shoulder harness attach
>fixture. This is what the U.K. boys used in their design. My pilot seat harness
>is attached all the way back to the tailpost, via a 1/8" cable.
>
>
>Dan Helsper
>Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
>**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with
>Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.
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| Subject: | Re: tubing size for shoulder harness assys. |
Tim,
Tubing diameter is .50.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with
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Okay gang here's the concept,
Each of us as owners and builders have a set of things they wished they had
done, are glad they did or regret doing as far as the build goes in addition
to features or unnecessary modifications.
For the rest of us in the building phase it would be great to have the
benefit of that regret while consideration improvements, modifications or upgrades.
For myself as I contemplate slight design alterations and preconceived
improvements it would be nice to get the view point from others that have tried
and love their modification or hate it.
Anyone interested in sharing or setting up a love hate list and the reason
for the builders comments.
John
**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.
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| Subject: | DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets |
Shad, I'm in, weather and spouse plans permitting. I looked at my calendar and
already had the weekend Aug 16 with your name and DLZ on there. Don said EAA has
the next weekend, either way sounds like fun.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
Sent: 6/8/2008 5:30:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: DLZ fly in August 2008 For Ohio Area Piets
Mike, Skipp, Don, Frank P., Mr Stevens (Belpree OH),
DLZ is having a fly in in August (forget exsact date but will find out) And Dad
is helping with the planning for the EAA chapter. He is wanting to see if we
can get some piets togeather for some fly-by's and maybe some brodhead style
loose formation fly overs. DLZ is just north of Columbus Ohio about 25 miles.
If any one needs to camp your welcome to camp at my house at Chapman Field which
is only 20 miles from DLZ. If anyone is interested let me know. If we time
it right we can tie up the pattern right about the time the Group of "Erector
set aviators", I mean RV'ators arive from there ego trip, and totally disregard
any parking instructions that fly-in staff give them. SORRY for the RV
bashing not all are that way, just the "LOOK AT ME" group that flys around here.
Shad
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| Subject: | tenpol-List:Hegy prop |
Hey Don,
Do you remember the numbers you got with the Hegy 72x44? Felix the GN-1
will cruse about 72 mph at 1950. Flat out will be about 78 at 2150. The
funny thing is it didn't seem to loose anything in climb, tho I have no
objective way to know for sure.
With the McCauley 73x43 it got 68 mph at 2150 in cruse and maybe 75 at 2350
all out level.
Skip
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| Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
John,
I think that is a GREAT idea!!
Will it be by separate emails,,or a columned list that we somehow add
to?
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Love hate List
Okay gang here's the concept,
Each of us as owners and builders have a set of things they wished
they had done, are glad they did or regret doing as far as the build
goes in addition to features or unnecessary modifications.
For the rest of us in the building phase it would be great to have the
benefit of that regret while consideration improvements, modifications
or upgrades.
For myself as I contemplate slight design alterations and preconceived
improvements it would be nice to get the view point from others that
have tried and love their modification or hate it.
Anyone interested in sharing or setting up a love hate list and the
reason for the builders comments.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
Walt,
Thanks for the encouragement. Actually I have no idea how it would work or
how we can add to it its just a concept for the moment, however I think it
should be something that lists the builder, the modification change or
alteration, the result, satisfied or not and the why or why not for the
dissatisfaction as some may be structural. cosmetic, functionality,performance
and safety
of flight.and any other reason imaginable.
At Broadhead last year I spoke to builders about the addition of a step, a
flop and a forward pit door, none of which were too encouraging and actually
cautioned against it. As useless non functional and a waste of time and
resources. That being the case I though those type comments from people who have
made the alterations may be helpful in the planning and decision making process
for all the builders and owners. Since all I have are the makings of what a
fuse should look like I don't have much to regret as of yet and although I
planned for a front pit door with support structure I have not cut and at this
point do not plan on cutting the upper longeron to accommodate a front
passenger easier with the possibility of compromising the structural integrity
of
my ship. Left to my own devices I would consider an ejection seat and jet
engine so the trip to get me back on perspective and plan. It is always good to
return to the origin and cleanse ones self of the worldly baggage of luxury
and return to a minimalist concept of purity
Those type of considerations may be helpful to other builders that have not
the time or benefit to experience Broadhead, Pietenpol Mecca.
BTW I am planning a return pilgrimage to Mecca for the 08
John
In a message dated 6/9/2008 12:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
waltdak@verizon.net writes:
John,
I think that is a GREAT idea!!
Will it be by separate emails,,or a columned list that we somehow add to?
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: _AMsafetyC@aol.com_ (mailto:AMsafetyC@aol.com)
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Love hate List
Okay gang here's the concept,
Each of us as owners and builders have a set of things they wished they had
done, are glad they did or regret doing as far as the build goes in addition
to features or unnecessary modifications.
For the rest of us in the building phase it would be great to have the
benefit of that regret while consideration improvements, modifications or upgrades.
For myself as I contemplate slight design alterations and preconceived
improvements it would be nice to get the view point from others that have tried
and love their modification or hate it.
Anyone interested in sharing or setting up a love hate list and the reason
for the builders comments.
John
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Love the nose fuel tank----easy to fill, no messes of fuel in the
cockpits,no climbing way up above the wing to fill the center section.
Love the center section baggage compartment. Tent, folding chair, tie
downs, sleeping bag, extra oil, rags, paper towels.
Hate the fact that I raised my seat 2" above the plans. Should have
left well enough alone but wanted better vis. over the nose.
Dumb.....dumb, dumb.
Love the fuel burn compared to my P-51 Mustang. (yeah right)
Love the wire wheels.
Love the straight axel and wood gear.
Love the light grade dacron fabric. It filled quickly, less coats of
paint, less weight.
Hate that it's not a super chick magnet plane like a Turbine Legend or
Cirrus. I kind of knew that going into it though:)
Love the tight patterns that you can fly with a Piet and cutting inside
morons who do approaches that resemble airliners into LaGuardia. I
thought that you're supposed to be able to reach the runway from
wherever you are in your pattern if your engine quits ? I hardly see
any pilots anymore who fly like that. I digress.
Love that I raised the instrument panels and turtledeck 1" above plans
height.
Loved that I installed a storage area behind pilot's seat going quite a
ways back in the turtledeck area.
Love the folding/removable seat for inspection purposes.
Hate that I have to clean the bugs off when I'm done flying. Prior to
marriage my girlfriend always used to help with that.
Love the wood prop.
Love the folding wings and trailerability I have:)
Mike C. in Ohio
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| Subject: | tubing size for shoulder harness |
Dan,
Thanks. That small diameter helps a lot. Trying to fit it all in for the passenger
harness attach hardware is a tight fit-- with instruments and leads, aileron
cables, fore and aft bracing for cowling, etc., and finally the harness itself.
You installation looks great.
Tim in central TX
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| Subject: | Re: tubing size for shoulder harness |
Tim, Did you by any chance see Bill Rewey's version of the passenger
harness installation?
On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Tim Willis wrote:
> >
>
> Dan,
>
> Thanks. That small diameter helps a lot. Trying to fit it all in
> for the passenger harness attach hardware is a tight fit-- with
> instruments and leads, aileron cables, fore and aft bracing for
> cowling, etc., and finally the harness itself.
>
> You installation looks great.
>
> Tim in central TX
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Guys, the DLZ Fly-in is August 16-17. The one on the 23rd is only the pankake
breakfast. So the big DLZ fly in is AUGUST 16-17. There is supposed to be a
B-17 and whatever else shows up. Afterwards (Sat night would be best) we can
fly back to my house cook out, have some cold ones if your camping, and tell lies.
I hope to see you all before that, Like at Brodhead, then we'll have the
mini piet fly in a month later.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Have to share my morning |
Beautiful, Walt! Could you send us #51 full size for the desktop. I think it could
be a avweb POTW winner!
walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote: Went up this morning to scope
out a stream for a kyacking friend of mine.
Also threw in a shot, all of the builders dream about, and the flyers never get
used to seeing.
Then my friend took the landing
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
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Hey everybody,
I've built up a new set of wheels using 6" go-cart drum brakes. I am
debating whether I should use bicycle cables and accessories or motorcycle
stuff to actuate them. It seems as if the tensile strength of good bike
stuff should be plenty, and it is certainly easier to get DYI parts to build
up a system, but thought I'd ask for anyone's input.
Thanks
Douwe
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A pic of my BFR check ride instructor Kim Darst, and friends. Harry in
the front seat, and I don't know the other guy standing.
She's amazing, has every instructor rating that there is. Even flew for
Kiwi for awhile.
This winter she'll be doing the Ititarod dog sled race
Walt Evans
NX140DL
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"Let's Legalize Freedom"
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| Subject: | Re: go-kart brakes |
Douwe,
I used smaller drums,,,4 1/2 I think, and used bicycle cables with good
results.
"nothing flew off yet"
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: go-kart brakes
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Hey everybody,
>
> I've built up a new set of wheels using 6" go-cart drum brakes. I am
> debating whether I should use bicycle cables and accessories or motorcycle
> stuff to actuate them. It seems as if the tensile strength of good bike
> stuff should be plenty, and it is certainly easier to get DYI parts to
> build
> up a system, but thought I'd ask for anyone's input.
>
> Thanks
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
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