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1. 04:53 AM - Re: Love hate List (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: Love hate List (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
3. 05:49 AM - shaky tach needle (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 06:01 AM - Re: shaky tach needle (Gene Rambo)
5. 06:20 AM - Re: shaky tach needle (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
6. 06:33 AM - Re: shaky tach needle (Steve Ruse)
7. 08:16 AM - Re: tubing size for shoulder harness (Bill Church)
8. 09:23 AM - Re: Love hate List (David Jones)
9. 09:37 AM - No folding wings (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
10. 09:53 AM - Re: No folding wings (John Hofmann)
11. 10:11 AM - Re: tubing size for shoulder harness (Roman Bukolt)
12. 10:12 AM - folding wing--price reduced (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
13. 10:38 AM - Re: folding wing--price reduced (John Hofmann)
14. 11:19 AM - T-88 questions...........................................again (Ben Ramler)
15. 11:27 AM - Re: T-88 questions.............................................. (HelsperSew@aol.com)
16. 11:47 AM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................again (TOM STINEMETZE)
17. 12:23 PM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................again (Jack T. Textor)
18. 01:10 PM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................again (Ben Ramler)
19. 02:09 PM - climb performance (RBush96589@aol.com)
20. 02:10 PM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................again (TOM STINEMETZE)
21. 02:19 PM - Re: Love hate List (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=)
22. 02:23 PM - Visits (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=)
23. 03:51 PM - Piets in DC area? (Jeff Boatright)
24. 05:18 PM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................again (Ben Charvet)
25. 06:01 PM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................again (Pastor M F Townsley)
26. 06:51 PM - project "piet" (Ben Ramler)
27. 06:53 PM - Re: Piets in DC area? (chase143)
28. 08:10 PM - Re: Piets in DC area? (Gene Rambo)
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Love the circular cutout in the wing with a handhold for cockpit
entry/egress
Love the steps I made for cockpit entry/egress
Love the centersection fuel tank with no worries about fuel pressure
Hate re-fueling the centersection fuel tank, with excess fuel running
right into my seat
Love the large baggage compartment between the firewall and front
cockpit (where most people put the fuel tank)
Hate the cheap nylon fittings I used on the low-pressure side of the
brake system - they leak constantly
Love the avionics installation in the centersection - easy to operate
and doesn't detract from the antique look
Love the brakelines routed through the middle of the aft landing gear
struts to preserve the antique look
Love the wire wheels and straight axle, even though they are heavy
Love the turtledeck and instrument panels raised 1-1/2"
Indifferent about the extra 1" added to the fuselage width - probably
would not do that again
Love the tailwheel steering cables attached to the mid section of the
rudder bar to decrease sensitivity of the tailwheel steering
Hate the Polyurethane paint - heavy and difficult to apply. Next time I
will use Polytone
Love the access panel I added underneath the elevator bellcrank
Love the dipole antenna under the leading edge plywood to not detract
from the antique appearance
Love the temperfoam seat cushions for long cross-countries
Love the lockable helmet box behind the pilot's seat to store flying
helmets and GPS
Love the Sunbrella cockpit covers my wife made for me
Love the 3-piece windshields but they were a pain to make
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Love hate List
Love the nose fuel tank----easy to fill, no messes of fuel in the
cockpits,no climbing way up above the wing to fill the center section.
Love the center section baggage compartment. Tent, folding chair, tie
downs, sleeping bag, extra oil, rags, paper towels.
Hate the fact that I raised my seat 2" above the plans. Should have
left well enough alone but wanted better vis. over the nose.
Dumb.....dumb, dumb.
Love the fuel burn compared to my P-51 Mustang. (yeah right)
Love the wire wheels.
Love the straight axel and wood gear.
Love the light grade dacron fabric. It filled quickly, less coats of
paint, less weight.
Hate that it's not a super chick magnet plane like a Turbine Legend or
Cirrus. I kind of knew that going into it though:)
Love the tight patterns that you can fly with a Piet and cutting inside
morons who do approaches that resemble airliners into LaGuardia. I
thought that you're supposed to be able to reach the runway from
wherever you are in your pattern if your engine quits ? I hardly see
any pilots anymore who fly like that. I digress.
Love that I raised the instrument panels and turtledeck 1" above plans
height.
Loved that I installed a storage area behind pilot's seat going quite a
ways back in the turtledeck area.
Love the folding/removable seat for inspection purposes.
Hate that I have to clean the bugs off when I'm done flying. Prior to
marriage my girlfriend always used to help with that.
Love the wood prop.
Love the folding wings and trailerability I have:)
Mike C. in Ohio
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Great points Jack and he noted the one thing I'd forgotten that I
love---the center section cutout
with hand-hold. Makes getting in easy and you can see some more sky
when you're in a turn too.
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| Subject: | shaky tach needle |
G'day, Pieters;
The needle on the (mechanical) tach on 41CC looks like a hula dancer's hips when
up at cruise RPM. I get a general idea of the engine speed by reading inbetween
the swing of the needle tip arc but it sure does a shaky shake. I also know
that it reads 200 RPM high at cruise because I checked it with a digital,
optical tach. The error is low at low RPM but gets larger as I approach 2100-2200
RPM and above. I know nothing about how these tachs work and have not pulled
out the cable to see what the ends of it look like.
Can the cable be cleaned and lubricated and maybe take some of the "hula hips"
action out of the tach needle, or is it a sealed assembly? Would the cable have
any effect on the accuracy of the tach reading or is that strictly a function
of the instrument?
Thanks for any help. I think I'll go snoop the Sac Sky Ranch website to see if
they have anything about this.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: shaky tach needle |
yea, you can pull the center out of the cable and put some moly grease
on it. You can also spray a l;ittle lube in the tach itself at the
drive end, not too much. That should stop it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga<mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com>
To: Pietenpol List<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shaky tach needle
<taildrags@hotmail.com<mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com>>
G'day, Pieters;
The needle on the (mechanical) tach on 41CC looks like a hula dancer's
hips when up at cruise RPM. I get a general idea of the engine speed by
reading inbetween the swing of the needle tip arc but it sure does a
shaky shake. I also know that it reads 200 RPM high at cruise because I
checked it with a digital, optical tach. The error is low at low RPM
but gets larger as I approach 2100-2200 RPM and above. I know nothing
about how these tachs work and have not pulled out the cable to see what
the ends of it look like.
Can the cable be cleaned and lubricated and maybe take some of the
"hula hips" action out of the tach needle, or is it a sealed assembly?
Would the cable have any effect on the accuracy of the tach reading or
is that strictly a function of the instrument?
Thanks for any help. I think I'll go snoop the Sac Sky Ranch website
to see if they have anything about this.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com<mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com>
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net<http://www.flysquirrel.net/>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<http://www.matronics.co
m/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
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| Subject: | Re: shaky tach needle |
Oscar, I used to run a speedometer shop and your complaint is common. Pull your
cable core out and hold one end in each hand. Pull your arms out as far as
you can. Hold one end still and twist the other. Assuming your cable is about
5 ft, you shouldn't be able to turn it more than half a turn. If it is more,
the core is acting like a spring and drives the tach in waves. The problem
could also be the magnet striking the cup if it is a magnetic style tach. Pull
the cable loose from the motor and drive it with a cordless drill. If you
hear a repetative jingle and the needle still bounces, it is the magnet striking
the cup. You can take the cable core to a speedo shop and they can make one
cheap. Tell them it is for your boat. A good shop won't make one for a plane.
If it is in the tach, you can try to take it and have it repaired, but it
is hard to get parts and find someone qualified and willing to do it.
Let me know what you find. If you can't find anyone down there, I know a couple
of people here in Dallas.
Good luck, Jeremy in Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
To:Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shaky tach needle
G'day, Pieters;
The needle on the (mechanical) tach on 41CC looks like a hula dancer's hips when
up at cruise RPM. I get a general idea of the engine speed by reading inbetween
the swing of the needle tip arc but it sure does a shaky shake. I also know
that it reads 200 RPM high at cruise because I checked it with a digital,
optical tach. The error is low at low RPM but gets larger as I approach 2100-2200
RPM and above. I know nothing about how these tachs work and have not pulled
out the cable to see what the ends of it look like.
Can the cable be cleaned and lubricated and maybe take some of the "hula hips"
action out of the tach needle, or is it a sealed assembly? Would the cable have
any effect on the accuracy of the tach reading or is that strictly a function
of the instrument?
Thanks for any help. I think I'll go snoop the Sac Sky Ranch website to see if
they have anything about this.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: shaky tach needle |
Oscar,
Just a thought, but for less than $100, you could go to an electronic
tach. Mine is a Westach 3AT3-2. I bought one a few months ago and it
was $79, looks like they are $98.75 now from Spruce. All you have to
do it connect it to ground, and connect it to each mag P-lead through
a single selector switch to select the right or left mag. Electronic
tachs are supposed to be much more accurate than mechanical, and mine
stays very steady (no jumping) at all RPM.
As a benefit, you could remove the tach cable running to your engine.
Just a hair less clutter between the engine and cockpit, and no more
cable to maintain.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>:
>
>
> G'day, Pieters;
>
> The needle on the (mechanical) tach on 41CC looks like a hula
> dancer's hips when up at cruise RPM. I get a general idea of the
> engine speed by reading inbetween the swing of the needle tip arc
> but it sure does a shaky shake. I also know that it reads 200 RPM
> high at cruise because I checked it with a digital, optical tach.
> The error is low at low RPM but gets larger as I approach 2100-2200
> RPM and above. I know nothing about how these tachs work and have
> not pulled out the cable to see what the ends of it look like.
>
> Can the cable be cleaned and lubricated and maybe take some of the
> "hula hips" action out of the tach needle, or is it a sealed
> assembly? Would the cable have any effect on the accuracy of the
> tach reading or is that strictly a function of the instrument?
>
> Thanks for any help. I think I'll go snoop the Sac Sky Ranch
> website to see if they have anything about this.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | tubing size for shoulder harness |
And, did you by any chance see the expression on the face of the guy in the
background of the photo? Sometimes the camera catches just the wrong moment.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roman Bukolt
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tubing size for shoulder harness
Tim, Did you by any chance see Bill Rewey's version of the passenger
harness installation?
On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Tim Willis wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
Mike,
Are you serious about having folding wings? That is the one drawback I've
had in considering building a Piet. I just retired and can't afford the
$225/mon hanger fees and been looking for something like a Kitfox or Avid.
I just sold my Cessna about a month ago and need to get back in the air.
Thanks.
David
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] <
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Love the nose fuel tank----easy to fill, no messes of fuel in the
> cockpits,no climbing way up above the wing to fill the center section.
>
> Love the center section baggage compartment. Tent, folding chair, tie
> downs, sleeping bag, extra oil, rags, paper towels.
>
> Hate the fact that I raised my seat 2" above the plans. Should have left
> well enough alone but wanted better vis. over the nose. Dumb.....dumb,
> dumb.
>
> Love the fuel burn compared to my P-51 Mustang. (yeah right)
>
> Love the wire wheels.
>
> Love the straight axel and wood gear.
>
> Love the light grade dacron fabric. It filled quickly, less coats of
> paint, less weight.
>
> Hate that it's not a super chick magnet plane like a Turbine Legend or
> Cirrus. I kind of knew that going into it though:)
>
> Love the tight patterns that you can fly with a Piet and cutting inside
> morons who do approaches that resemble airliners into LaGuardia. I thought
> that you're supposed to be able to reach the runway from wherever you are
> in your pattern if your engine quits ? I hardly see any pilots anymore who
> fly like that. I digress.
>
> Love that I raised the instrument panels and turtledeck 1" above plans
> height.
>
> Loved that I installed a storage area behind pilot's seat going quite a
> ways back in the turtledeck area.
>
> Love the folding/removable seat for inspection purposes.
>
> Hate that I have to clean the bugs off when I'm done flying. Prior to
> marriage my girlfriend always used to help with that.
>
> Love the wood prop.
>
> Love the folding wings and trailerability I have:)
>
> Mike C. in Ohio
>
>
> [
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | No folding wings |
Forgive me for accidentally misleading some that I have folding wings.
I do not have folding wings.
Folding wings have been discussed ad-nauseum on the list in years past.
For all the posts just search the
Matronics archive http://www.matronics.com/search/
Mike C.
PS-- David, you're thinking correctly by looking into something that is
a proven folding-wing design like a Kitfox or Avid. That's the safest
and smartest route to care-free folding wing flying.
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| Subject: | Re: No folding wings |
Here is a proven folding wing aircraft for sale. Price just reduced.
http://courtesyaircraft.com/Wildcat%20Proj%20sn%2086774.htm
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 10, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] wrote:
> Forgive me for accidentally misleading some that I have folding
> wings. I do not have folding wings.
>
> Folding wings have been discussed ad-nauseum on the list in years
> past. For all the posts just search the
> Matronics archive http://www.matronics.com/search/
>
> Mike C.
>
> PS-- David, you're thinking correctly by looking into something that
> is a proven folding-wing design like a Kitfox or Avid. That's the
> safest
> and smartest route to care-free folding wing flying.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tubing size for shoulder harness |
And, by the way, Bill Rewey is a registered professional Mechanical
Engineer and knows a thing or two about stresses, strength of
materials and impact loads. He also is an EAA DAR. I don't know the
background of the observer in the picture.
do not archive
On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Bill Church wrote:
> >
>
> And, did you by any chance see the expression on the face of the guy
> in the
> background of the photo? Sometimes the camera catches just the wrong
> moment.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Roman Bukolt
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:01 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tubing size for shoulder harness
>
> Tim, Did you by any chance see Bill Rewey's version of the passenger
> harness installation?
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Tim Willis wrote:
>
>
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| Subject: | folding wing--price reduced |
http://courtesyaircraft.com/Wildcat%20Proj%20sn%2086774.htm
Looks like it just needs a power-washing and oil change---should be good
to go.
Which lake did they pull that one up from I wonder ?
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| Subject: | Re: folding wing--price reduced |
Kind of reminds me of a Cub I happen to know (or is that own?)...
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] wrote:
> http://courtesyaircraft.com/Wildcat%20Proj%20sn%2086774.htm
>
> Looks like it just needs a power-washing and oil change---should be
> good to go.
> Which lake did they pull that one up from I wonder ?
>
>
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| Subject: | T-88 questions...........................................again |
Afternoon Group,
Here we go again group members. Dad and I are going to try again building the
aircamper. The question as we get closer to start building is how do I apply T-88
with out getting it all over the place gluing the fuselage to the table. yes
knowing me that is likely to happen. I was thinking maybe some disposable paint
brushes might work then pitch them. I can't lay wax paper down because that
will screw up the glue. any thoughts on this subject?
take care,
Ben
Piet builder wanna-be
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| Subject: | Re: T-88 questions.............................................. |
Ben,
Any cheap clear film polyethylene drop cloth material will work. This will
not stick to T-88.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................again |
> how do I apply T-88 with out getting it all over the place gluing the
fuselage to the table. >
Ben:
There are plenty of ways to do this. I used popsicle sticks cut off to be
squarish on one end. You can buy these for about $1.00 per 100 at your
local Wal-Mart. Use these to mix your T-88 in relatively small batches.
Test fit your joints dry and mark the areas where T-88 is to be applied.
Then, with just enough T-88 on the stick to cover that small space, wipe
on a thin layer - being sure to apply glue to both sides of the joint.
Fasten that joint with your gusset using whatever method you have chosen
and move on to the next joint.
You will find that T-88 is not extremely runny and will stay on the joint
if you don't put it on too thick. I did this on a bare wood table and
ended up with no sticking problems. On the wing ribs, I put small pieces
of wax paper underneath each joint and allowed the excess to drip on
through. This was easy enough to clean off after the rib came out of the
jig.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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| Subject: | T-88 questions...........................................again |
Ben,
Wax paper or saran wrap will work fine. For my ribs I cut a hole under
each joint which worked well.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................again |
so you don't allow the rib to dry in the jig right Tom S?=0A=0A=0A=0A-----
Original Message ----=0AFrom: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@MCPCITY.COM>=0ATo: piete
npol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:43:55 PM=0ASubject
: Re: Pietenpol-List: T-88 questions.......................................
....again=0A=0A=0A>-how do I apply T-88 with out getting it all over the
place gluing the fuselage to the table. >=0A=0ABen:=0A-=0AThere are plent
y of ways to do this.- I used popsicle sticks cut off to be squarish on o
ne end.- You can buy these for about $1.00 per 100 at your local Wal-Mart
.- Use these to mix your T-88 in relatively small batches.- Test fit yo
ur joints dry and mark the areas where T-88 is to be applied.- Then, with
just enough T-88 on the stick-to cover that small space, wipe on a thin
layer-- being sure to apply glue to both sides of the joint.- Fasten th
at joint with your gusset using whatever method you have chosen and move on
to the next joint.=0A-=0AYou will find that T-88 is not extremely runny
and will stay on the joint if you don't put it on too thick.- I did this
on a bare wood table and ended up with no sticking problems.- On the wing
ribs, I put small pieces of wax paper underneath each joint and allowed th
e excess to drip on through.- This was easy enough to clean off after the
rib came out of the jig.=0A-=0ATom Stinemetze=0AMcPherson, KS.=0A=0A=0A_
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| Subject: | climb performance |
Hey Dick,
Sorry for the late response to your question about the corvair
powered piet climb performance,but over the weekend with temps in the upper
eighties and gross weight of about 1250 ibs,climbing out at between 60 and 65
mph my vsi read around 300 to 400fpm.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
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| Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................again |
>so you don't allow the rib to dry in the jig right Tom S? <
Ben:
Yes, I did let my ribs set in the jig overnight to let the T-88 set.
However, you don't have to if you build your jig correctly and use staples
or nails to attach your gussetts. I did it the slow way since I was doing
plenty of other things at the same time and just building ribs can get
pretty tedious. If you will search the archives you will be able to find
several posts from folks who jigged up the rib, attached the first set of
gussets, and then took the rib out of the jig and put the second set of
gussets on. I didn't try that so can't say Yea or Nay. I even remember
one post where the jig was tall enough to stack two or three ribs at a
time. It's your project - find what works for you.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities.
The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit
to hereditary pejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence
." Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
David
The good news is you got some serious build time that you can do almost anywhere
depending on your determination and commitment level.
I am building in a basement and don't expect to need a hanger for at least another
year. So not a real big concern for me at this point eventhough I am on the
waiting list
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: "David Jones" <planecrazy2020@gmail.com>
To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Love hate List
Mike,
Are you serious about having folding wings? That is the one drawback I've had in
considering building a Piet. I just retired and can't afford the $225/mon hanger
fees and been looking for something like a Kitfox or Avid. I just sold my
Cessna about a month ago and need to get back in the air.
Thanks.
David
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov <mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> > wrote:
Love the nose fuel tank----easy to fill, no messes of fuel in the cockpits,no climbing
way up above the wing to fill the center section.
Love the center section baggage compartment. Tent, folding chair, tie downs, sleeping
bag, extra oil, rags, paper towels.
Hate the fact that I raised my seat 2" above the plans. Should have left well enough
alone but wanted better vis. over the nose. Dumb.....dumb, dumb.
Love the fuel burn compared to my P-51 Mustang. (yeah right)
Love the wire wheels.
Love the straight axel and wood gear.
Love the light grade dacron fabric. It filled quickly, less coats of paint, less
weight.
Hate that it's not a super chick magnet plane like a Turbine Legend or Cirrus.
I kind of knew that going into it though:)
Love the tight patterns that you can fly with a Piet and cutting inside morons
who do approaches that resemble airliners into LaGuardia. I thought that you're
supposed to be able to reach the runway from wherever you are in your pattern
if your engine quits ? I hardly see any pilots anymore who fly like that. I
digress.
Love that I raised the instrument panels and turtledeck 1" above plans height.
Loved that I installed a storage area behind pilot's seat going quite a ways back
in the turtledeck area.
Love the folding/removable seat for inspection purposes.
Hate that I have to clean the bugs off when I'm done flying. Prior to marriage
my girlfriend always used to help with that.
Love the wood prop.
Love the folding wings and trailerability I have:)
Mike C. in Ohio
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Any piets in the syracuse ny area? I am here for a few days and thought I would
ask
John
------Original Message------
From: Jack T. Textor
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Jun 10, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: T-88 questions...........................................again
Ben,
Wax paper or saran wrap will work fine. For my ribs I cut a hole under
each joint which worked well.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Piets in DC area? |
Any Piets in the Washington, DC area? I'm visiting there Fri-Tues and
have most of Sun and all of Monday free.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Emory University School of Medicine
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Molecular Vision
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| Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................again |
Being the thrifty scrounger that I am, I used cut up pieces of plastic
grocery bags under my joints. It is a little stronger than Saran Wrap,
and you don't have to worry about wax residue messing up gluing the
opposite side. As someone else suggested, I used pieces of wood to
spread my glue. I made all my own cap strips, so using some thin stock
that was left over and laying all over the shop worked out well. I used
plastic medicine cups with graduations on them to mix my T-88 and that
worked well. They were $3 for a 100 count and I've used less than 200
in the whole project. One other suggestion: When making your ribs
smear the inside of the plywood pieces with a thin coat of T-88, because
that area is VERY hard to varnish after the wing is assembled.
T-88 is a great product and very forgiving. Have fun with this.....
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
Ben Ramler wrote:
>
> Afternoon Group,
> Here we go again group members. Dad and I are going to try again building
the aircamper. The question as we get closer to start building is how do I apply
T-88 with out getting it all over the place gluing the fuselage to the table.
yes knowing me that is likely to happen. I was thinking maybe some disposable
paint brushes might work then pitch them. I can't lay wax paper down because
that will screw up the glue. any thoughts on this subject?
> take care,
> Ben
> Piet builder wanna-be
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................again |
Ben
You scrounger you! You and I could be good buddies! Keep it up!
Mike in Iowa
Ben Charvet wrote:
> <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
>
> Being the thrifty scrounger that I am, I used cut up pieces of plastic
> grocery bags under my joints. It is a little stronger than Saran
> Wrap, and you don't have to worry about wax residue messing up gluing
> the opposite side. As someone else suggested, I used pieces of wood
> to spread my glue. I made all my own cap strips, so using some thin
> stock that was left over and laying all over the shop worked out
> well. I used plastic medicine cups with graduations on them to mix my
> T-88 and that worked well. They were $3 for a 100 count and I've used
> less than 200 in the whole project. One other suggestion: When
> making your ribs smear the inside of the plywood pieces with a thin
> coat of T-88, because that area is VERY hard to varnish after the wing
> is assembled.
> T-88 is a great product and very forgiving. Have fun with this.....
>
> Ben Charvet
> Mims, Fl
>
>
> Ben Ramler wrote:
>> <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Afternoon Group,
>> Here we go again group members. Dad and I are going to try again
>> building the aircamper. The question as we get closer to start
>> building is how do I apply T-88 with out getting it all over the
>> place gluing the fuselage to the table. yes knowing me that is likely
>> to happen. I was thinking maybe some disposable paint brushes might
>> work then pitch them. I can't lay wax paper down because that will
>> screw up the glue. any thoughts on this subject?
>> take care,
>> Ben
>> Piet builder wanna-be
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hi all,
I wanted to write to say that I guess in the couple of days I will be building the ribs for what I call "project piet". I have updated my personal webpage devoted the project and I will add new information as I go forward. the url is www.ben-aircamper.4t.com.
take care
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in DC area? |
Hello Jeff,
I have approximately 1/1500 of my Pietenpol complete, 30 mins outside of DC on
the MD side, if you are really bored! Fifteen ribs completed to date, not much
to look at, but there is steady progress in the shop. The door is always open
and the beer is always cold!
Steve Chase
chase143@aol.com
www.myrv8.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187298#187298
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in DC area? |
I live in DC and have my Piet (and some other aircraft) at an airport
about an hour's drive out of town.
Gene
202-674-1445
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Boatright<mailto:jboatri@emory.edu>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in DC area?
<jboatri@emory.edu<mailto:jboatri@emory.edu>>
Any Piets in the Washington, DC area? I'm visiting there Fri-Tues and
have most of Sun and all of Monday free.
Thanks,
Jeff
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