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1. 04:10 AM - Re: Piets in DC area? (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:57 AM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga (MikeD)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: Love hate List (MikeD)
4. 08:33 AM - Re: Piets in DC area? (chase143)
5. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: T-88 questions.......................................... (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
6. 11:18 AM - Wing Building (Catdesigns)
7. 11:39 AM - Re: Wing Building (TOM STINEMETZE)
8. 11:40 AM - Re: Wing Building (walt evans)
9. 11:47 AM - Re: Wing Building (Jack T. Textor)
10. 11:53 AM - Re: Wing Building (HelsperSew@aol.com)
11. 12:13 PM - Re: Wing Building (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 12:30 PM - Re: Wing Building (Phillips, Jack)
13. 12:36 PM - Re: Wing Building (Jack T. Textor)
14. 12:55 PM - marriage & building (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
15. 01:12 PM - Wing Building (santiago morete)
16. 01:25 PM - Re: Wing Building (Bill Church)
17. 01:43 PM - selling both planes (H RULE)
18. 06:27 PM - Re: marriage & building (Ryan Mueller)
19. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga (Dick Navratil)
20. 06:55 PM - Re: climb performance (Dick Navratil)
21. 07:39 PM - Re: Wing Building (gcardinal)
22. 07:53 PM - Re: marriage & building (Brian Kraut)
23. 08:09 PM - Re: Love hate List (gcardinal)
24. 08:12 PM - Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga (MikeD)
25. 08:13 PM - Re: Wing Building (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
26. 08:15 PM - Re: Wing Building (John Hofmann)
27. 08:24 PM - Re: marriage & building (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
28. 10:13 PM - Re: Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga (Ben Ramler)
29. 10:26 PM - Re: Wing Building (Brian Kraut)
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Subject: | Piets in DC area? |
Hi Jeff,
If you can get to Dulles on Saturday I will have my Pietenpol on display
at the Udvar-Hazy Museum at Dulles Int'l Airport for the National Air &
space Museum's "Become a Pilot Famly Day".
http://www.nasm.si.edu/becomeapilot/
Come by and introduce yourself.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in DC area?
Any Piets in the Washington, DC area? I'm visiting there Fri-Tues and
have most of Sun and all of Monday free.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
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Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga |
ben_ramler2002(at)yahoo.c wrote:
> Afternoon Group,
> I can't lay wax paper down because that will screw up the glue.
If you are not in scrounging mode, small rolls of polyethylene are cheap at Home
Depot or the like, if you use a medium thickness like 3-6 mil it is tough enough
to peel stuck parts and glue from it without trouble.
Waxes are indeed soluble in epoxy to some degree, for example waxed paper cups
are a no-no for mixing.
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Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
Love this thread already.
That's all I have at this point, but I will be scouring those "love points" for
ideas that I can still incorporate at this stage.
Mike D.
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Subject: | Re: Piets in DC area? |
Hello Jack,
We're still looking forward to coming over for the day, hope to see you there.
Thanks for participating in the Dulles open house!
Steve
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Subject: | Re: T-88 questions.......................................... |
We use a lot of sticky epoxy mixtures on composite aircraft, most people use
common 2" wide plastic film packing tape. It has the added advantage of
staying where you put it and it is micro thin. I could see putting a piece of
this down under a glued joint.
Regards, Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
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(Crossing fingers)
Im about a month away from starting assembly of the 3-piece wing. I was wondering
if anyone has built their wings vertically (i.e. leading edge up) instead of
horizontal lying flat on a bench? If so, could I get some pictures and/or descriptions
of how to jig this up. Reason why I want to do this is I could work
on both wings at the same time and it would fit so much better in my garage.
I have a few ideas of my own but just thought I would ask. Usually my ideas
cause delays, frustration, and added cost.
How are the rest of you building your wings? Is there a better way then the way
I am thinking? Or should I just cave in and kick the wifes car out of the garage.
Chris
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Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
> Is there a better way then the way I am thinking? Or should I just cave
in and kick the wife's car out of the garage.>
>Chris>
Chris: I assume by this statement that you are implying your vehicle has
already been kicked out of the garage. If not, you're about to be
sleeping in the garage again.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
proof read :^)
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
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From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
> <Catdesigns@comcast.net>
>
> (Crossing fingers)
>
> I?Tm about a month away from starting assembly of the 3-piece wing. I was
> wondering if anyone has built their wings vertically (i.e. leading edge
> up) instead of horizontal lying flat on a bench? If so, could I get some
> pictures and/or descriptions of how to jig this up. Reason why I want to
> do this is I could work on both wings at the same time and it would fit so
> much better in my garage. I have a few ideas of my own but just thought I
> would ask. Usually my ideas cause delays, frustration, and added cost.
>
> How are the rest of you building your wings? Is there a better way then
> the way I am thinking? Or should I just cave in and kick the wife?Ts car
> out of the garage.
>
> Chris
>
> --------
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, CA
> WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187399#187399
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Chris,
I'm doing mine on a 16' bench and it is working well. When building my RV8 they
were built vertically which also worked well. When doing the RV you had each
spar held at each end in a floor to ceiling jig. They were aligned with fishing
line secured in the forward (top) spar and treaded through a hole in the
lower (rear) spar secured to a weight. You could continually check the alignment
by making sure the line was in the hole center. With the RV you also had
to support the center of the spar so it wouldn't sag. As soon as you had the skin
clecoed on the spar and ribs the support wasn't needed. It seems to me this
would be hard with a wood wing since it would need to be supported until all
the cross braces, compression struts, drag wires, leading edge cap, etc were
in place. Hope this helps.
Jack
www.textors.com
Im about a month away from starting assembly of the 3-piece wing. I was wondering
if anyone has built their wings vertically (i.e. leading edge up) instead of
horizontal lying flat on a bench? If so, could I get some pictures and/or descriptions
of how to jig this up. Reason why I want to do this is I could work
on both wings at the same time and it would fit so much better in my garage.
I have a few ideas of my own but just thought I would ask. Usually my ideas
cause delays, frustration, and added cost.
How are the rest of you building your wings? Is there a better way then the way
I am thinking? Or should I just cave in and kick the wifes car out of the garage.
Chris
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Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Chris,
We don't have to tell you what the right thing to do is here. You already
know it. Reach down inside your gut, gird yourself, stand up straight, and tell
her the way it is going to be. You absolutely need all that valuable space in
order to build those wings the right way. You live in California where the
weather is good so she doesn't need that car in there anyway. Don't you dare
compromise this procedure. Just do it!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this project while married;
how many of us are still married to the same wife as when it all started?
Tom S.
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Not me. She left about the time I was getting ready to cover. New wife
arrived as I was finishing the painting. She will be flying with me in
the Pietenpol this weekend, on a 4 hour trip from Raleigh to Washington
DC. Now THAT's a flying wife.
Not that she really understands or appreciates "Low and Slow". She
prefers flying the RV-4 and getting there quickly. On the one occasion
when she's gone up in the Pietenpol, she remarked as we were climbing
out after takeoff from a 6,000' runway "We've been flying for over a
minute and we still haven't gotten to the end of the runway!" I told
her we were doing 50 mph and the runway is 6,000 feet long. Do the
math. So we'll see what she thinks after a Pietenpol Cross-Country.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
<TOMS@MCPCITY.COM>
I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this project
while married; how many of us are still married to the same wife as when
it all started?
Tom S.
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31 years for me, she did a heck of a job bucking rivets; we will see how
she does on rib stitching.
Jack
www.textors.com
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Vice President
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Subject: | marriage & building |
Jack's story had a happy twist and I've had the pleasure of meeting his
aviation-supportive
wife. Not only does she tolerate Jack but likes flying too !
I had nine years of unwedded bliss and built my airplane in that period.
My first wife actually
enjoyed flying and went with me quite often. Flying was not the
downfall of our marriage
but just to be on the safe side I built and flew my Pietenpol during my
nine year hiatus from
marriage. Today my wife is supportive of me flying and I can spend as
much time doing that
as I care to which is a plus.
Mike C.
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Chris,
Here is how Chuck Guntzer built his one piece wing http://nx770cg.com/Wing.html, good luck
Saludos
Santiago
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Chris,
Personally, I find that I am much less productive when I'm lying flat on a
bench. I get more done when I'm standing up... or were you referring to the
wing lying flat on the bench?
On another note, you can put a car IN the garage???
Bill C.
(you were probably looking for a useful reply, too)
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Subject: | selling both planes |
I can't aford the hanger fees any longer and the price of gas has just forc
ed me to say both C-IOVC and C-IBBE have to go. The-GN-1 Aircamper-for
$17,500.00 and the N3 Pup for $8,000.00.I hate doing this because I love bo
th my planes but something has to go.-Contact me off list at harvey.rule@
rogers.com or harvey.rule@bell.ca or 613-739-5562. for pics and more info.
=0A
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Subject: | Re: marriage & building |
Jess and I have been married 1.5 years, and everything is going swimmingly.
She is very supportive of the Pietenpol build. As an example, right now I
have a band saw on the buffet, the kitchen table is covered with a belt
sander, rib jig, plans, a fresh Stromberg carb, etc. There's 500 feet of
spruce in a box in front of the TV. Some birch ply behind the couch, and a
pair of Corvair case halves on Roy's kennel. We have a one bedroom apt in
the middle of Chicago, so we haven't much room, but it can be done! (Albeit
slowly...)
It certainly helps to have a willing partner through the whole process. Have
a good one,
Ryan
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] <
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Jack's story had a happy twist and I've had the pleasure of meeting his
> aviation-supportive
> wife. Not only does she tolerate Jack but likes flying too !
>
> I had nine years of unwedded bliss and built my airplane in that period.
> My first wife actually
> enjoyed flying and went with me quite often. Flying was not the downfall
> of our marriage
> but just to be on the safe side I built and flew my Pietenpol during my
> nine year hiatus from
> marriage. Today my wife is supportive of me flying and I can spend as much
> time doing that
> as I care to which is a plus.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga |
Mike
I'm shure many of us are shocked to hear wax paper shouldnt be used under
wing ribs. I have now built 3 sets of wings and havent had any problems, so
far.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: T-88
questions...........................................aga
>
>
> ben_ramler2002(at)yahoo.c wrote:
>> Afternoon Group,
>> I can't lay wax paper down because that will screw up the
>> glue.
>
>
> If you are not in scrounging mode, small rolls of polyethylene are cheap
> at Home Depot or the like, if you use a medium thickness like 3-6 mil it
> is tough enough to peel stuck parts and glue from it without trouble.
>
> Waxes are indeed soluble in epoxy to some degree, for example waxed paper
> cups are a no-no for mixing.
>
> --------
> Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187338#187338
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: climb performance |
Randy
Thanks for the figures. Similar to mine. That next 60 lbs. seems to
have pushed the envelope and I have an additional 1 ft of wing span and
110 hp.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: RBush96589@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: climb performance
Hey Dick,
Sorry for the late response to your question about the
corvair powered piet climb performance,but over the weekend with temps
in the upper eighties and gross weight of about 1250 ibs,climbing out at
between 60 and 65 mph my vsi read around 300 to 400fpm.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
I am still married to the same woman but it cost me a $60,000 kitchen
remodel........
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
>
> I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this project while
> married; how many of us are still married to the same wife as when it all
> started?
>
> Tom S.
>
>
>
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Subject: | marriage & building |
I just got divorced a few months ago. I have Piet tail surfaces in the
bedroom, KR-2S spars in the dining room, KR-2 spars in the foyer, a Sonerai
instrument panel on the kitchen table, a Piet center section and fuel tank
in the living room, a Mustang II fuel tank in the living room, two props
leaning up against the TV stand, more airplane parts in my office than we
have time to detail, and I am about to set up some saw horses in the living
room to assemble and cover the Piet wings on.
Now if I can ever get the ex to get the rest of her clothes, nick knacks,
vases, plastic flowers and plants, and all that other junk out of the house
it would not look so cluttered.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:25 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: marriage & building
Jess and I have been married 1.5 years, and everything is going
swimmingly. She is very supportive of the Pietenpol build. As an example,
right now I have a band saw on the buffet, the kitchen table is covered with
a belt sander, rib jig, plans, a fresh Stromberg carb, etc. There's 500 feet
of spruce in a box in front of the TV. Some birch ply behind the couch, and
a pair of Corvair case halves on Roy's kennel. We have a one bedroom apt in
the middle of Chicago, so we haven't much room, but it can be done! (Albeit
slowly...)
It certainly helps to have a willing partner through the whole process.
Have a good one,
Ryan
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
Jack's story had a happy twist and I've had the pleasure of meeting his
aviation-supportive
wife. Not only does she tolerate Jack but likes flying too !
I had nine years of unwedded bliss and built my airplane in that period.
My first wife actually
enjoyed flying and went with me quite often. Flying was not the
downfall of our marriage
but just to be on the safe side I built and flew my Pietenpol during my
nine year hiatus from
marriage. Today my wife is supportive of me flying and I can spend as
much time doing that
as I care to which is a plus.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
I concur with Jack and Mike on the Jenny style gear. Well worth the
extra weight.
Love the simplicity of being brakeless with a tailskid.
Love flying into a busy fly-in without a radio. It is easier to
concentrate on traffic and flying.
Wish I had a forward step to assist with filling the center-section
tank.
Love the minimal instrumentation.
Hate flying in turbulence.
Wish the A-65 motor mount had been extended 4"
Love the rudder bar.
Love the 3 piece windscreens
Love the AeroQuip fuel fittings and 3/8" aluminum fuel line. This is no
place to be cheap.
Love having Dale Johnson as my building partner. He is a master
craftsman.
Love the flop.
Hate living 45 minutes away from the airport. Just going to shoot a few
landings requires a 3 hour block of time.
I'm sure I can come up with more...........
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Love hate List
Love the circular cutout in the wing with a handhold for cockpit
entry/egress
Love the steps I made for cockpit entry/egress
Love the centersection fuel tank with no worries about fuel pressure
Hate re-fueling the centersection fuel tank, with excess fuel running
right into my seat
Love the large baggage compartment between the firewall and front
cockpit (where most people put the fuel tank)
Hate the cheap nylon fittings I used on the low-pressure side of the
brake system - they leak constantly
Love the avionics installation in the centersection - easy to operate
and doesn't detract from the antique look
Love the brakelines routed through the middle of the aft landing gear
struts to preserve the antique look
Love the wire wheels and straight axle, even though they are heavy
Love the turtledeck and instrument panels raised 1-1/2"
Indifferent about the extra 1" added to the fuselage width - probably
would not do that again
Love the tailwheel steering cables attached to the mid section of the
rudder bar to decrease sensitivity of the tailwheel steering
Hate the Polyurethane paint - heavy and difficult to apply. Next time
I will use Polytone
Love the access panel I added underneath the elevator bellcrank
Love the dipole antenna under the leading edge plywood to not detract
from the antique appearance
Love the temperfoam seat cushions for long cross-countries
Love the lockable helmet box behind the pilot's seat to store flying
helmets and GPS
Love the Sunbrella cockpit covers my wife made for me
Love the 3-piece windshields but they were a pain to make
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:22 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Love hate List
Love the nose fuel tank----easy to fill, no messes of fuel in the
cockpits,no climbing way up above the wing to fill the center section.
Love the center section baggage compartment. Tent, folding chair,
tie downs, sleeping bag, extra oil, rags, paper towels.
Hate the fact that I raised my seat 2" above the plans. Should have
left well enough alone but wanted better vis. over the nose.
Dumb.....dumb, dumb.
Love the fuel burn compared to my P-51 Mustang. (yeah right)
Love the wire wheels.
Love the straight axel and wood gear.
Love the light grade dacron fabric. It filled quickly, less coats of
paint, less weight.
Hate that it's not a super chick magnet plane like a Turbine Legend or
Cirrus. I kind of knew that going into it though:)
Love the tight patterns that you can fly with a Piet and cutting
inside morons who do approaches that resemble airliners into LaGuardia.
I thought that you're supposed to be able to reach the runway from
wherever you are in your pattern if your engine quits ? I hardly see
any pilots anymore who fly like that. I digress.
Love that I raised the instrument panels and turtledeck 1" above plans
height.
Loved that I installed a storage area behind pilot's seat going quite
a ways back in the turtledeck area.
Love the folding/removable seat for inspection purposes.
Hate that I have to clean the bugs off when I'm done flying. Prior to
marriage my girlfriend always used to help with that.
Love the wood prop.
Love the folding wings and trailerability I have:)
Mike C. in Ohio
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Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga |
horzpool(at)goldengate.ne wrote:
> Mike
> I'm shure many of us are shocked to hear wax paper shouldnt be used under
> wing ribs. I have now built 3 sets of wings and havent had any problems, so
> far.
> Dick N.
> ---
Now that you've recovered from the shock, for wing ribs I can't see any problem
since any epoxy touching it has nothing to do with the structure anyhow. But
as I said, waxed paper cups such as Dixie bathroom cups (which look temptingly
convenient for mixing small amounts) should not be used for mixing, as the potential
exists to pick up some wax in the mix. Just a side note to the thread,
thought it might be of use to someone.
Glad to hear your wings haven't fallen apart so far.. [Wink]
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Tom,
The first thing I did was smile at my loving wife and show her the door! After
she realized my love for flight, I became one with my pieter and no-one else could
pull, grab, or even talk me into going soft.....on her.
Now my pieter is safe inside my single stall...garage and she (wife) is seeking
a new man with no pieter!
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
--- On Wed, 6/11/08, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
From: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "TOM STINEMETZE"
<TOMS@MCPCITY.COM>
I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this project while
married; how many of us are still married to the same wife as when it all
started?
Tom S.
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Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Second wife, this one is much better and very supportive. She let me
buy a Cub but I too have a kitchen remodel in the near future.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:41 PM, gcardinal wrote:
> >
>
> I am still married to the same woman but it cost me a $60,000
> kitchen remodel........
>
> Greg C.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
>
>
>> >
>>
>> I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this
>> project while married; how many of us are still married to the same
>> wife as when it all started?
>>
>> Tom S.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | marriage & building |
Brian....
Touche!
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Brian Kraut <brian.kraut@engalt.com> wrote:
From: Brian Kraut <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: marriage & building
I just got divorced a few months ago. I have Piet tail surfaces in the bedroom,
KR-2S spars in the dining room, KR-2 spars in the foyer, a Sonerai instrument
panel on the kitchen table, a Piet center section and fuel tank in the
living room, a Mustang II fuel tank in the living room, two props leaning up against
the TV stand, more airplane parts in my office than we have time to detail,
and I am about to set up some saw horses in the living room to assemble and
cover the Piet wings on.
Now if I can ever get the ex to get the rest of her clothes, nick knacks, vases,
plastic flowers and plants, and all that other junk out of the house it would
not look so cluttered.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: marriage & building
Jess and I have been married 1.5 years, and everything is going swimmingly. She
is very supportive of the Pietenpol build. As an example, right now I have a
band saw on the buffet, the kitchen table is covered with a belt sander, rib jig,
plans, a fresh Stromberg carb, etc. There's 500 feet of spruce in a box in
front of the TV. Some birch ply behind the couch, and a pair of Corvair case
halves on Roy's kennel. We have a one bedroom apt in the middle of Chicago, so
we haven't much room, but it can be done! (Albeit slowly...)
It certainly helps to have a willing partner through the whole process. Have a
good one,
Ryan
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
wrote:
Jack's story had a happy twist and I've had the pleasure of meeting his aviation-supportive
wife. Not only does she tolerate Jack but likes flying too !
I had nine years of unwedded bliss and built my airplane in that period.
My first wife actually
enjoyed flying and went with me quite often. Flying was not the downfall
of our marriage
but just to be on the safe side I built and flew my Pietenpol during my nine year
hiatus from
marriage. Today my wife is supportive of me flying and I can spend as much
time doing that
as I care to which is a plus.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga |
thanks Dick! I think I will go down that road.
----- Original Message ----
From: Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:47:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: T-88 questions...........................................aga
Mike
I'm shure many of us are shocked to hear wax paper shouldnt be used under
wing ribs. I have now built 3 sets of wings and havent had any problems, so
far.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: T-88
questions...........................................aga
>
>
> ben_ramler2002(at)yahoo.c wrote:
>> Afternoon Group,
>> I can't lay wax paper down because that will screw up the
>> glue.
>
>
> If you are not in scrounging mode, small rolls of polyethylene are cheap
> at Home Depot or the like, if you use a medium thickness like 3-6 mil it
> is tough enough to peel stuck parts and glue from it without trouble.
>
> Waxes are indeed soluble in epoxy to some degree, for example waxed paper
> cups are a no-no for mixing.
>
> --------
> Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187338#187338
>
>
>
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Did that 60K remodel include all Sitka Spruce cabinets and a Corvair powered
ceiling fan?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of gcardinal
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
I am still married to the same woman but it cost me a $60,000 kitchen
remodel........
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
>
> I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this project while
> married; how many of us are still married to the same wife as when it all
> started?
>
> Tom S.
>
>
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