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1. 12:10 AM - Re: Wing Building ()
2. 12:38 AM - Re: Wing Building ()
3. 12:39 AM - Re: Wing Building ()
4. 12:41 AM - Re: Wing Building ()
5. 12:53 AM - Re: Wing Building (Catdesigns)
6. 12:56 AM - Re: Wing Building (Clif Dawson)
7. 02:33 AM - Re: Wing Building (walt evans)
8. 07:17 AM - marriage & building (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
9. 07:23 AM - Greg C's Love Hate list (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
10. 07:35 AM - Re: Still Married? (Woodflier@aol.com)
11. 07:36 AM - Re: marriage & building (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 07:45 AM - Re: Greg C's Love Hate list (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
13. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Still Married? (Phillips, Jack)
14. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Still Married? (Dick Navratil)
15. 08:14 AM - Pietenpol goes to DC (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
16. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: Still Married? (Gene Rambo)
17. 08:48 AM - Re: Wing Building ()
18. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Still Married? (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
19. 11:34 AM - Jeremy in Dallas (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
20. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: Still Married? (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
21. 12:44 PM - Airplanes & wives (JERRY GROGAN)
22. 12:59 PM - Re: Airplanes & wives (Jack T. Textor)
23. 01:03 PM - Re: Airplanes & wives (Phillips, Jack)
24. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Still Married? (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
25. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: Still Married? (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
26. 02:00 PM - then there is the female version of AIDS (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
27. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: Still Married? (Brian Kraut)
28. 02:20 PM - Re: Airplanes & wives (walt evans)
29. 02:34 PM - Jack going to Dulles (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
30. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Still Married? (Clif Dawson)
31. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Wing Building (Dick Navratil)
32. 07:15 PM - Re: Love hate List (Don Emch)
33. 07:22 PM - Pietenpol as a large airplane (Gene Rambo)
34. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: Still Married? (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
The only time my truck has seen the inside of the garage is when the
door opens to let her car in and out. As for sleeping in the garage, I
think she is afraid I could get used to that. Actually, I prefer to
keep her as happy as possible because, well heck, I kind of like her.
That and she makes delicious chocolate chip cookies when people come
over to talk Pietenpol.
There has been a recent addition to the garage and my children and I
have been enjoying it way to much. (See attached, it's the blue thing).
And some of you wonder why it is taking me so long to get this thing
done...
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
> Is there a better way then the way I am thinking? Or should I just
cave in and kick the wife's car out of the garage.>
>Chris>
Chris: I assume by this statement that you are implying your vehicle
has already been kicked out of the garage. If not, you're about to be
sleeping in the garage again.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Bill C.,
I was reading a book in the library one day, you know one of those
places that have printed material that you can take home, for free. It
is kind of like the internet but with out all the porn and access fees.
Anyway I digress, I was reading this old book and discovered the
original idea behind the garage was to park cars in them. Well I tell
you I never heard of such a silly idea before. If you put a car in
there where are you going to store all you old junk you don't need?
However, when I got home none of my neighbors were outside so I opened
the garage door, took a long beep breath and slowly pulled the car in
the garage. It was an interesting experience. My head was buzzing with
all sorts of new sounds and smells. But I quickly pulled out because I
had the feeling I was doing something wrong. Gloriously wrong. I wish I
could say I only did it that one time but I cant, it's to addicting. No
more running to the car in the rain, no more scraping ice off the
windows, no more seats scalding your butt on a hot summers day its
addicting I tell you addicting. I am currently in garage-a-non but it
doesn't seem to be working. I just cant give it up. I don't want to.
Or maybe I have been smelling to many welding fumes. Who know anymore.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
Chris,
Personally, I find that I am much less productive when I'm lying flat
on a bench. I get more done when I'm standing up... or were you
referring to the wing lying flat on the bench?
On another note, you can put a car IN the garage???
Bill C.
(you were probably looking for a useful reply, too)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Thanks Santiago, that is what I am looking for.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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From: santiago morete
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
Chris,
Here is how Chuck Guntzer built his one piece wing
http://nx770cg.com/Wing.html, good luck
Saludos
Santiago
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
I can't, she makes my lunch, dinner and washes my clothes all for the
joy of spending the evening by herself while I'm out in the garage.
It's just too good of a deal to mess it up.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: HelsperSew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
Chris,
We don't have to tell you what the right thing to do is here. You
already know it. Reach down inside your gut, gird yourself, stand up
straight, and tell her the way it is going to be. You absolutely need
all that valuable space in order to build those wings the right way. You
live in California where the weather is good so she doesn't need that
car in there anyway. Don't you dare compromise this procedure. Just do
it!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Dang it! I forgot the attachment.. so here it is. Cut me some slack, its 12:48am
and I have been up since 6:30am. That reminds me, I have to get up in 5 1/2
hours. I should got to bed.
[quote="Catdesigns"]
There has been a recent addition to the garage and my children and I have been
enjoying it way to much. (See attached, it's the blue thing). And some of
you wonder why it is taking me so long to get this thing done...
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com (http://www.WestCoastPiet.com)
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Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187527#187527
Attachments:
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
After some years a widower, Clem got married again.
Not long after, his faithful old hound dog up and died.
Being a hunter he needed another dog. So he got one.
This one didn't take to training well.
One day, on the way to town that mutt up and jumped
out, tearing after a rabbit. The old guy and his new wife
finaly corralled that dumb mutt and tied him in the box
of the truck. He shook his finger at the beast and
exclaimed," That's one!"
This happened again, "That's two!" and again! "That's three!"
His wife was getting a little tired of chasing after the
thing as well but it was such a cute and friendly pup that
she forgave it's shortcomings.
A few weeks into the marriage they again drove into town.
And, of course, that silly hound jumped out and ran off.
The two of them again finaly caught it. This time the
husband tied it to the front bumper, got out his .45 Winchester
and BLAM! shot it dead.
His horrified wife, her eyes bugged halfway out of her head
screamed, What did you do that for!! "
The good husband calmly turns to he and quietly says.
"That's one."
"Things which matter most must never be at the mercy of things which
matter least."
~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Clif,
No cars were ever in my garage!
The wife figured out pretty early that sharing
with a workshop beat sharing with a mistress.
The first thing I did was smile at my loving wife and show her
the door! After she realized my love for flight, I became one with my
pieter and no-one else could pull, grab, or even talk me into going
soft.....on her.
Now my pieter is safe inside my single stall...garage and she
(wife) is seeking a new man with no pieter!
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
I would be curious to know, for those of us who started this project
while
married; how many of us are still married to the same wife as when it
all
started?
Tom S.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Chris,
Just kidding.
That's why the smiley face. :^)
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
>
> Walt
>
> I think what your referring to is a glitch with my posting to the web
> based forum then having it bounced to the email and archives. Notice how
> the apostrophe shows up as a?T in both places of the email version but is
> fine on the web forum.
>
> If this is not what your referring to then, well we all have our talents
> and spelling and typing are not one of mine. Sorry it bothers you.
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
>
>
>>
>> proof read :^)
>> Walt Evans
>> NX140DL
>>
>> "Let's Legalize Freedom"
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@comcast.net>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Building
>>
>>
>>> <Catdesigns@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> (Crossing fingers)
>>>
>>> I?Tm about a month away from starting assembly of the 3-piece wing. I
>>> was wondering if anyone has built their wings vertically (i.e. leading
>>> edge up) instead of horizontal lying flat on a bench? If so, could I
>>> get some pictures and/or descriptions of how to jig this up. Reason why
>>> I want to do this is I could work on both wings at the same time and it
>>> would fit so much better in my garage. I have a few ideas of my own but
>>> just thought I would ask. Usually my ideas cause delays, frustration,
>>> and added cost.
>>>
>>> How are the rest of you building your wings? Is there a better way then
>>> the way I am thinking? Or should I just cave in and kick the wife?Ts
>>> car out of the garage.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Chris Tracy
>>> Sacramento, CA
>>> WestCoastPiet.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187399#187399
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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| Subject: | marriage & building |
Man in just warms the cockles of my heart (what the heck are the cockles
anyway ?) to hear of some great
interior decorating happening in the residences of Ryan in Chicago,
Brian Kraut, and Ken.
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| Subject: | Greg C's Love Hate list |
Fantastic Greg regarding hating turbulence.
I've never flown a plane that is as uncomfortable and unruly in
turbulence (thanks in part to the light wing loading)
and winds. It's pretty exhausting to fly a Piet cross country all day
in turbulence and winds.
On the love side, there is no finer plane to fly when the winds are
totally calm about 1/2 hour prior to sunset or
just after sunrise. The views, the handling, the low level, flat out,
no-holes-barred, worm-burning buzz jobs on
freshly tilled farmers fields, and smoke trails that hang in the air for
minutes are found no finer than in a Pietenpol
Air Camper.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
I started my Piet married to one woman, got divorced during the process, and
will finish married to another woman, one who likes to fly this time.
Apparently, I was an AIDS victim - Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome.
Jack, I'd love to be in the tower at Dulles when you land... or are you
landing in the Udvar-Hazy parking lot?
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| Subject: | Re: marriage & building |
>Man in just warms the cockles of my heart (what the heck are the
cockles anyway ?) >
Mike:
Good question. Here's an answer from the "Workd Wide Words" website.
Its one of the more lovely idioms in the language, isnt it? Something
that warms the cockles of ones heart induces a glow of pleasure,
sympathy, affection, or some such similar emotion. What gets warmed is
the innermost part of ones being. Its not that surprising that it
should be associated with the heart, that being the presumed seat of the
emotions for most people. But what are the cockles?
Were not sure. We do know that the expression turns up first in the
middle of the seventeenth century, and that the earliest form of the
idiom was rejoice the cockles of ones heart.
Cockles are a type of bivalve mollusc, once a staple part of the diet
for many British people (you may recall that Sweet Molly Malone once
wheeled her wheelbarrow through Dublins fair city, crying cockles and
mussels, alive, alive oh!). They are frequently heart-shaped (their
formal zoological genus was at one time Cardium, of the heart), with
ribbed shells.
It may be that the shape and spiral ribbing of the ventricles of the
heart reminded surgeons of the two valves of the cockle. But I cant
find an example of the word cockle being applied to the heart outside
this expression, which makes me suspicious of this explanation. It may
be that the shape of the cockleshell, suggesting the heart as it so
obviously does, gave rise to cockles of the heart as an expansion.
After this piece appeared in the Newsletter, James Woodfield pointed
out that there is another possible explanation. In medieval Latin, the
ventricles of the heart were at times called cochleae cordis, where the
second word is an inflected form of cor, heart. Those unversed in Latin
could have misinterpreted cochleae as cockles, or it might have started
out as a university in-joke. Oddly, cochlea in Latin is the word for a
snail (from the shape of the ventricles * its also the name given to
the spiral cavity of the inner ear), so if this story is right we should
really be speaking of warming the snails of ones heart.
Tom S.
in beautiful, windy, Kansas
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| Subject: | Re: Greg C's Love Hate list |
Speaking of rides,
I plan to be at Broadhead this year again, this time with a buddy, one
smaller than I and could fit into the front seat. Can I arrange to get him a ride
on Saturday with a willing Pieter?
It would be really great if I cold get that set up in advance, last year I
didn't catch a ride, however since I am building I'll get a ride sooner or
later, however I would love to see catch a ride. He's a good friend and the one
that helped me get my build started, I think it would be a real treat for him.
Your willingness is appreciated
Thanks
John Recine
In a message dated 6/12/2008 10:25:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
Fantastic Greg regarding hating turbulence.
I've never flown a plane that is as uncomfortable and unruly in turbulence
(thanks in part to the light wing loading)
and winds. It's pretty exhausting to fly a Piet cross country all day in
turbulence and winds.
On the love side, there is no finer plane to fly when the winds are totally
calm about 1/2 hour prior to sunset or
just after sunrise. The views, the handling, the low level, flat out,
no-holes-barred, worm-burning buzz jobs on
freshly tilled farmers fields, and smoke trails that hang in the air for
minutes are found no finer than in a Pietenpol
Air Camper.
Mike C.
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
I wish they'd let me land in the parking lot. They are going to park me
overnight at Dulles Jet Center, way up near the approach end of 19L.
The Udvar-Hazy museum is a mile or so southwest of the approach end of
1R. Of course, runway 1R/19L is 11,500 feet long so I will have quite a
taxi (at least 3 miles of S-Turning) to get from Dulles Jet to the
museum on Saturday morning. I wish they'd let me fly down the taxiway
to the south end of the runway, but somehow I doubt that's going to
happen. I wonder what Potomac Approach is going to think of having to
handle traffic with a cruise speed of 58 knots?
I'm just glad someone at the Smithsonian is aware enough of Pietenpols
to want to have one on display Saturday. They said they would park me
next to an F-16. That will be a nice contrast.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
I started my Piet married to one woman, got divorced during the process,
and will finish married to another woman, one who likes to fly this
time. Apparently, I was an AIDS victim - Aviation Induced Divorce
Syndrome.
Jack, I'd love to be in the tower at Dulles when you land... or are you
landing in the Udvar-Hazy parking lot?
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
Hey Jack
I really wish I could be at that event. That sounds like a fun trip.
On the taxi, you could ask the tower for a tail up, fast taxi, if the
weather permits.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
I wish they'd let me land in the parking lot. They are going to park
me overnight at Dulles Jet Center, way up near the approach end of 19L.
The Udvar-Hazy museum is a mile or so southwest of the approach end of
1R. Of course, runway 1R/19L is 11,500 feet long so I will have quite a
taxi (at least 3 miles of S-Turning) to get from Dulles Jet to the
museum on Saturday morning. I wish they'd let me fly down the taxiway
to the south end of the runway, but somehow I doubt that's going to
happen. I wonder what Potomac Approach is going to think of having to
handle traffic with a cruise speed of 58 knots?
I'm just glad someone at the Smithsonian is aware enough of Pietenpols
to want to have one on display Saturday. They said they would park me
next to an F-16. That will be a nice contrast.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:32 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
I started my Piet married to one woman, got divorced during the
process, and will finish married to another woman, one who likes to fly
this time. Apparently, I was an AIDS victim - Aviation Induced Divorce
Syndrome.
Jack, I'd love to be in the tower at Dulles when you land... or are
you landing in the Udvar-Hazy parking lot?
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Pietenpol goes to DC |
Too bad you're not flying into National, Jack----think of the beautiful
view you'd have of the city of Washington, DC.
You'll have to recalibrate your eyeballs landing on that long runway.
It always messes with my depth perception when going into
a narrow or very wide runway but if you keep it in mind as you descend
it seems to work better.
'American 445 heavy, taxi into position runway one nine hold. American
445 Heavy cleared for takeoff,
caution wake turbulence, departing experimental high-wing."
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
They are so NOT used to slow aircraft . . the last time I did this
event, they sent us around three times because we were too close to
traffic AHEAD of us!! They just don't get that we could have landed in
the LAST 500 feet of a 10,000 ft runway, or that we could land in the
first 100 and turn off immediately.
Good luck Jack!
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From: Phillips, Jack<mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
I wish they'd let me land in the parking lot. They are going to park
me overnight at Dulles Jet Center, way up near the approach end of 19L.
The Udvar-Hazy museum is a mile or so southwest of the approach end of
1R. Of course, runway 1R/19L is 11,500 feet long so I will have quite a
taxi (at least 3 miles of S-Turning) to get from Dulles Jet to the
museum on Saturday morning. I wish they'd let me fly down the taxiway
to the south end of the runway, but somehow I doubt that's going to
happen. I wonder what Potomac Approach is going to think of having to
handle traffic with a cruise speed of 58 knots?
I'm just glad someone at the Smithsonian is aware enough of Pietenpols
to want to have one on display Saturday. They said they would park me
next to an F-16. That will be a nice contrast.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
I started my Piet married to one woman, got divorced during the
process, and will finish married to another woman, one who likes to fly
this time. Apparently, I was an AIDS victim - Aviation Induced Divorce
Syndrome.
Jack, I'd love to be in the tower at Dulles when you land... or are
you landing in the Udvar-Hazy parking lot?
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Wife-to-be v1.0 doesn't really understand my want/need to build a Pietenpol, but
she supports me anyway. In return for her tremendous love and support, I'm
doing considerable house renovation projects while the T-88 cures... A man's
got to have something to do while the epoxy sets...
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
fin, rudder, and elevators done.
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I don't think AIDS is my problem. The mariage counselor said yesterday that we
are both holding back our feelings and we should find a way to talk to each other
about what were feeling. I make 3 times as much money as she does and she
spends twice as much as I make. So at best it's a huge deficite. She's angry
that it bothers me. She's angry because I don't like being yelled at for
no reason. She's angry any time I try to do anything for myself. She's angry
because, because, because. I can't stand her most of the time and am tired of
being tied to the whipping post. I'm not sure what the counselor expects me
to say. As for the Piet, it's really dad's project. She doesn't understand
why I'm doing most of the leg work and spending my money on it. She said I wasn't
allowed to build to build a plane untill the house remodeling is done.
I guess I shouldn't tell her about the Wagabond fuse that I bought! Or maybe
I should so I won't have to listen to her any more?
Jeremy in Dallas
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
I started my Piet married to one woman, got divorced during the process= , and
will finish married to another woman, one who likes to fly this time. Apparently,
I was an AIDS victim - Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome.
Jack, I'd love to be in the tower at Dulles when you land... or are you= landing
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| Subject: | Jeremy in Dallas |
Jeremy,
Not sure what Dr. Phil might advise you two but sorry to hear of the
distress you're facing.
I say either get a girlfriend/mistress who really treats you great and
has divorced a guy
that makes as much money as you do so when you leave your wife you can
'inherit' 1/2 of what
that husband gave your mistress and not come out of a divorce in the
hole.
I'm jesting of course but I've heard of guys who have actually
experienced that scenario.
Best wishes with your situation and I think many on the list would agree
with me that if
you can't change your wife's spending habits or attitude, you can at
least go in the
work shop from time to time and get some much needed 'therapy' by
building !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
Wow, never realized you guys had it so bad; for Randi and & I, our biggest
concern is our boyfriends would want to use our tools, or help with our
projects.. that's a no-no. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a
guy
that wants to buy his own tools and work on his own projects.. in his own
space? ..or put up with our engine in the living room (that's another matter,
its
brand new and it is clean so it would be a bad thing to put it out in the
garage and have it get dirty or rusty). For the most part Randi and I are too
busy right now for full time relationships so we can both sympathize with both
you builders and your girlfriends or wives, it is really tough for either
side. In the years we have been building we have become outcasts in our circle
of friends because we never show up for happy hours, weekend BBQ's, or other
social invites much less invite them over. I don't think anybody needs to be
told of the single minded determination it takes to finish a project of this
scale so maybe the solution is to find a like -minded partner? Sorry, that
does not do much for those who are already with someone who does not see this
as
a good thing. At least they would know where you are and what is on your
mind all the time, how could that be so bad?
Unfortunately the Piets are not a cross-country plane where you can take
your spouse to a fly in and have them hear the stories about the far and wide
travels and holidays flyers have had with their completed projects, or the group
flights to the Bahamas or Key West after Sun-n-fun.
Maybe you can get them to read some Richard Bach and give them some insight
into that far away look in your eyes? (its not from T-88 dust)
...Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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| Subject: | Airplanes & wives |
This is my first post. I must be the lucky one. 33 years with the same
wife and she's still in love with me. I have purchased a Piet to rebuild
and am flying a Skybolt with a Smith Miniplane almost done. And my wife
has little problems with my habbit. Maybe a good ballence of things is
good even in a marage. Any way I have enjoyed all of your comments and
the forum has been great so far.
Oh' by the way I have the one with the flaps. The Piet had some other
interesting things I will explain at a later date. I'm sure you will all
get a laugh from. I may never use the flaps, but we will see what they
do or don't do.
Jerry Grogan
Des Moines, IA
In the Flood
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| Subject: | Airplanes & wives |
Welcome Jerry! All I can attest to Jerry's abilities, a real craftsman.
He is doing all the welding on my critical parts.
Jack
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do not archive
This is my first post. I must be the lucky one. 33 years with the same
wife and she's still in love with me. I have purchased a Piet to rebuild
and am flying a Skybolt with a Smith Miniplane almost done. And my wife
has little problems with my habbit. Maybe a good ballence of things is
good even in a marage. Any way I have enjoyed all of your comments and
the forum has been great so far.
Oh' by the way I have the one with the flaps. The Piet had some other
interesting things I will explain at a later date. I'm sure you will all
get a laugh from. I may never use the flaps, but we will see what they
do or don't do.
Jerry Grogan
Des Moines, IA
In the Flood
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| Subject: | Airplanes & wives |
Flaps! Now that's what a Pietenpol needs - a way to quickly add more
drag!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JERRY
GROGAN
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airplanes & wives
This is my first post. I must be the lucky one. 33 years with the same
wife and she's still in love with me. I have purchased a Piet to rebuild
and am flying a Skybolt with a Smith Miniplane almost done. And my wife
has little problems with my habbit. Maybe a good ballence of things is
good even in a marage. Any way I have enjoyed all of your comments and
the forum has been great so far.
Oh' by the way I have the one with the flaps. The Piet had some other
interesting things I will explain at a later date. I'm sure you will all
get a laugh from. I may never use the flaps, but we will see what they
do or don't do.
Jerry Grogan
Des Moines, IA
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
Too bad we don't have more single female Pieters. We could have a Personals section.
I could see it now: divorced white male Pieter 30 seeking divorced white
Pieter friendly female 25 to 35 who likes hot dusty evenings in the shop
gluing up ribs and long take off rolls along a green field!
Jeremy in Dallas
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
Wow, never realized you guys had it so bad; for Randi and & I, our biggest concern
is our boyfriends would want to use our tools, or help with = our projects..
that's a no-no. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find = a guy
that wants to buy his own tools and work on his own projects.. in his ow= n
space? ..or put up with our engine in the living room (that's another matter=
, its brand new and it is clean so it would be a bad thing to put it out in th=
e garage and have it get dirty or rusty). For the most part Randi and I are
to= o busy right now for full time relationships so we can both sympathize
with bo= th you builders and your girlfriends or wives, it is really tough for
either si= de. In the years we have been building we have become outcasts in
our circle of friends because we never show up for happy hours, weekend BBQ's,
or other so= cial invites much less invite them over. I don't think anybody
needs to be told o= f the single minded determination it takes to finish a
project of this scale s= o maybe the solution is to find a like -minded partner?
Sorry, that does not d= o much for those who are already with someone who
does not see this as a good thing. At least they would know where you are and
what is on your mind all t= he time, how could that be so bad?
Unfortunately the Piets are not a cross-country plane where you can tak= e your
spouse to a fly in and have them hear the stories about the far and wid= e
travels and holidays flyers have had with their completed projects, or the g=
roup flights to the Bahamas or Key West after Sun-n-fun.
Maybe you can get them to read some Richard Bach and give them some ins= ight
into that far away look in your eyes? (its not from T-88 dust)
...Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
In a message dated 6/12/2008 3:16:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
outofthebox50@yahoo.com writes:
Too bad we don't have more single female Pieters. We could have a Personals
section. I could see it now: divorced white male Pieter 30 seeking
divorced white Pieter friendly female 25 to 35 who likes hot dusty evenings in
the
shop gluing up ribs and long take off rolls along a green field!
Jeremy, please issue a spew alert before posting like that, my keyboard is
now sharing my caffeine buzz.
There has to be a naughty t-shirt in there somewhere?
...Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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| Subject: | then there is the female version of AIDS |
Where Corvair guru William Wynne dated and married Grace Ellen who left
her man for someone who supported her passion
for flying and building. See attachment.
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
Chrissi, will you marry me?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
CozyGirrrl@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:38 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Still Married?
Wow, never realized you guys had it so bad; for Randi and & I, our biggest
concern is our boyfriends would want to use our tools, or help with our
projects.. that's a no-no. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find
a guy that wants to buy his own tools and work on his own projects.. in his
own space? ..or put up with our engine in the living room (that's another
matter, its brand new and it is clean so it would be a bad thing to put it
out in the garage and have it get dirty or rusty). For the most part Randi
and I are too busy right now for full time relationships so we can both
sympathize with both you builders and your girlfriends or wives, it is
really tough for either side. In the years we have been building we have
become outcasts in our circle of friends because we never show up for happy
hours, weekend BBQ's, or other social invites much less invite them over. I
don't think anybody needs to be told of the single minded determination it
takes to finish a project of this scale so maybe the solution is to find a
like -minded partner? Sorry, that does not do much for those who are already
with someone who does not see this as a good thing. At least they would know
where you are and what is on your mind all the time, how could that be so
bad?
Unfortunately the Piets are not a cross-country plane where you can take
your spouse to a fly in and have them hear the stories about the far and
wide travels and holidays flyers have had with their completed projects, or
the group flights to the Bahamas or Key West after Sun-n-fun.
Maybe you can get them to read some Richard Bach and give them some
insight into that far away look in your eyes? (its not from T-88 dust)
...Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
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| Subject: | Re: Airplanes & wives |
Nah,
I can slip my Piet into any place that a 150 with full flaps could never
get into.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"Let's Legalize Freedom"
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airplanes & wives
Flaps! Now that's what a Pietenpol needs - a way to quickly add more
drag!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JERRY
GROGAN
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:42 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airplanes & wives
This is my first post. I must be the lucky one. 33 years with the same
wife and she's still in love with me. I have purchased a Piet to rebuild
and am flying a Skybolt with a Smith Miniplane almost done. And my wife
has little problems with my habbit. Maybe a good ballence of things is
good even in a marage. Any way I have enjoyed all of your comments and
the forum has been great so far.
Oh' by the way I have the one with the flaps. The Piet had some other
interesting things I will explain at a later date. I'm sure you will all
get a laugh from. I may never use the flaps, but we will see what they
do or don't do.
Jerry Grogan
Des Moines, IA
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| Subject: | Jack going to Dulles |
I'd bet money on Jack Phillips that if they allowed him, he could land
SIDEWAYS on the runway of his
choice at Dulles and have room to turn around without going off into the
grass.
Heck, the runway I've landed on at Oshkosh they call 18L/36R but is
otherwise a taxiway during the rest
of the year. That taxiway is probably three times as wide as my home
base runway.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
No. Clif :-)
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a guy that wants to
buy his own tools and work on his own projects.. in his own space?
...Chrissi
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building |
Billy
Just remember that it's not a good idea to use T-88 on 2x4 wall studs. You
will use way too much glue.
However, when buying 2x4's you can look for a reddish coloring in some
boards with a fine grain, those being douglas fir and put them aside for
airplane parts.
Dick N.
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From: <billmz@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Building
>
>
> Wife-to-be v1.0 doesn't really understand my want/need to build a
> Pietenpol, but she supports me anyway. In return for her tremendous love
> and support, I'm doing considerable house renovation projects while the
> T-88 cures... A man's got to have something to do while the epoxy sets...
>
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> fin, rudder, and elevators done.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Love hate List |
Thought I'd add mine too...
Love the wire wheels
Wish I had built the wood gear
Love the extremely simple brakes
Love the extremely simple tailwheel
Love that, other than a few things like those above, I followed the plans
Wish I had a Model A on it
Love that Continental more, though
Love the NORDO thing
Love KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)
Hate the sore butt on long flights
Love the character of the original design
Love that I can stop on the way to the airfield and fill my 5 gallon gas can and
fly over to visit friends at a local airstrip and fly back and still have fuel
left over
Absolutely love going to the airport before dawn, watching the dew spray up from
the tires as I run down the strip and causing the first day's sunlight to flood
the cockpit by climbing higher. Sharing the experience and the views with
my daughter makes me love it so much more!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Pietenpol as a large airplane |
Boy, after thinking all these years about how small a Piet is, now that
I am varnishing the *@#%<mailto:*@#%> thing, I am not so sure. I am on
my third quart of varnish and the end is nowhere in sight . . . whew!!
The fuselage is about 3/4 done, and I just started on the tail surfaces
today. I know this is a lot of varnish, but I am sanding between coats
and putting a third coat on the high-use areas like the floorboards and
seats/seatbacks, and on the panels which I want to look good.
(polyurethane, semi-gloss)
I'll be back at it all day tomorrow, too.
Gene
(starting to like the smell of varnish)
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| Subject: | Re: Still Married? |
In a message dated 6/12/2008 5:09:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
brian.kraut@engalt.com writes:
Chrissi, will you marry me?
=============================
Brian, that depends....
-have your own tools?
-have your own projects to keep you busy (and out of my hair so I can work
on my own projects)
-do you live in an airpark?
Oh, send picture of your plane =)
...Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
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