Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/16/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:02 AM - Re: Jack going to Dulles (Phillips, Jack)
     2. 06:19 AM - Re: Jack going to Dulles (Jeff Boatright)
     3. 07:00 AM - Re: Jack going to Dulles (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
     4. 10:14 AM - Cowls (MikeD)
     5. 11:17 AM - Re: Cowls (Bill Church)
     6. 11:49 AM - Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
     7. 12:10 PM - Re: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling (Robert Gow)
     8. 01:46 PM - Re: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling (Jeff Boatright)
     9. 03:08 PM - Re: Cowls (MikeD)
    10. 03:09 PM - Re: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling (MikeD)
    11. 05:14 PM - Re: Cowls (Bill Church)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:02:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Jack going to Dulles
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
    If the winds had been right I could easily have landed across the runway. As it was, we landed on 19L and I intended to stop before the first taxiway (K1), but on short final I realized the lights at the end of the runway stuck up about 2 feet and I pulled up a bit to clear them and touched down on the numbers. We stopped just past K1. The next taxiway was over a mile away so I called Dulles Tower and asked them if I could just turn around an back-taxi to K1, which they approved. Total landing roll was something under 400 feet. As we took off yesterday, the B747 behind us commented to the tower that we didn't use more than 250' getting off the ground (there was a good 15 knot wind right down runway 30). I replied that getting off the ground was one thing, but it would take me 10 minutes to get to 1500 feet. All in all, the tower operators and approach control people were great to work with. As we were taxiing in a "conga line" from Dulles Jet to the Udvar-Hazy Museum on Saturday morning, we taxied down Kilo straight into a 15 knot wind. The planes in front of me were running off and leaving me, and the ones behind were probably cursing me under their breath. I called Ground and said "Dulles Ground, Pietenpol November X-Ray eight niner niner Juliet Papa, I apologize for my slow taxi speed. I'm showing over 30 mph on my airspeed indicator and I'm within about 5 knots of flying." They responded that I should just take my time - no problem at all. This event was a lot of fun. I met a couple of Piet Builders - Steve Chase came to the event, and I met Gene Rambo at our final fuel stop at Culpepper VA and got to look at his Piet project (very nice workmanship he's doing, too). The Pietenpol was one of the most popular planes there and we had a steady stream of kids wanting to sit in its cockpit. Karen survived her first Pietenpol cross country (4-1/2 hours with 2 fuel stops each way) and seemed to enjoy herself, although when I asked if she wanted to join me on the trip to Brodhead she said she wished I wasn't going and she certainly wouldn't! 18 hours each way is too much for her. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jack going to Dulles I'd bet money on Jack Phillips that if they allowed him, he could land SIDEWAYS on the runway of his choice at Dulles and have room to turn around without going off into the grass. Heck, the runway I've landed on at Oshkosh they call 18L/36R but is otherwise a taxiway during the rest of the year. That taxiway is probably three times as wide as my home base runway. Mike C. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any o ther use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Fr ancais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: w ww.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 06:19:17 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Jack going to Dulles
    Good for you, Jack! Sorry I missed it, couldn't get out of the meetings.


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    Time: 07:00:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Jack going to Dulles
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Great report Jack and glad the trip went well for you ! Excellent photo and descriptions. That place is huge ! I took Karen for a ride in my Piet at Oshkosh to make a circuit like the Breezy does when giving rides and while we were climbing out about even with the Oshkosh Truck plant stacks they launched two P-51 Mustangs in formation below us, departing, and on the deck. I think she was ready to land right then and there but of course I thought it was incredibly cool. Mike C.


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    Time: 10:14:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Cowls
    From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
    At an airport about 90 minutes from here, there is a Piet sitting in the hangar with a really, really nice fiberglass (sacrilege!) cowl. The glass work is too good for me to believe it was a one-off. I took some pics but am having camera problems and can't download them right at the moment, but maybe I can describe it. Oh, and no the owner does not know who made it but believes the person has since passed away. It has a nicely rounded air inlet below the spinner with three tubular vertical supports fitted internally. The top has a pleasant compound curvature that blends into the hub opening perfectly. The carb intake area is almost a form fit, and the cowl to either side tapers away directly from the hub opening. Word don't do as well as pictures do they? But with this mediocre description, does anyone have an idea about the origins? There can't be too many people that have made molds for a complete Piet cowl assembly. I made a crude sketch from memory on AutoCAD and put it in jpeg format, attached. Mike D. -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188131#188131 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_cowl_178.jpg


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    Time: 11:17:14 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    Subject: Cowls
    Mike, I'm going to use my powers of ESP and guess that you're talking about the really nicely designed and fabricated cowl on what was originally NX28LT (but is now based in Canada), built by Lawrence Tomasello. I haven't seen photos of another cowl quite like it, and my guess is that it was a one-off. It sure is nice, though. Maybe there's someone out there on the list that knows a bit mote about the history of the plane. Bill C.


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    Time: 11:49:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    This is one sweet Pietenpol. Randy Bruce flew it up from Florida to Oshkosh in 99 for our gaggle gathering. Fun guy, great artist....he did the logo and N-numbers. If I'm not mistaken the plane was purchased by Randy but he made it what it is methinks. I might be wrong about that but the FAA registry would say who the builder is. (look it up on Landings.com under databases (wayyyy at the bottom of the web page in small font) Note the landing gear legs appear to be wood but are steel tube painted up to appear as wood. As an aside, this plane was purchased or being brokered by the late Bobby Younkin on his web page before his passing so whoever has it now purchased it from/thru them unless there has been a subsequent change of owners since that purchase. Mike C. in Ohio


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    Time: 12:10:48 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling
    RE: Pietenpol-List: CowlsI'm sure I saw that one at a Pietenpol Fly-In in Brussels Ontario. It had been recently imported. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] Sent: June 16, 2008 2:47 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling This is one sweet Pietenpol. Randy Bruce flew it up from Florida to Oshkosh in 99 for our gaggle gathering. Fun guy, great artist....he did the logo and N-numbers. If I'm not mistaken the plane was purchased by Randy but he made it what it is methinks. I might be wrong about that but the FAA registry would say who the builder is. (look it up on Landings.com under databases (wayyyy at the bottom of the web page in small font) Note the landing gear legs appear to be wood but are steel tube painted up to appear as wood. As an aside, this plane was purchased or being brokered by the late Bobby Younkin on his web page before his passing so whoever has it now purchased it from/thru them unless there has been a subsequent change of owners since that purchase. Mike C. in Ohio


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    Time: 01:46:00 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling
    We almost bought that plane. I think it was purchased from Mr. Younkin just before he died. Jeff -- --- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision


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    Time: 03:08:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cowls
    From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
    eng(at)canadianrogers.com wrote: > Mike, > I'm going to use my powers of ESP and guess that you're talking about the really nicely designed and fabricated cowl on what was originally NX28LT (but is now based in Canada), built by Lawrence Tomasello. > I haven't seen photos of another cowl quite like it, and my guess is that it was a one-off. It sure is nice, though. > Maybe there's someone out there on the list that knows a bit mote about the history of the plane. > > > Bill C. Could be, it was brought up here not long ago and resides at Brussels. It is red and black, with "Cap'n Buck Nekkid" hand painted by the cockpit (LOL). Is that the one? I haven't been able to talk to the owner yet, but according to the fellow who owns the site the owner didn't know much more than someone other than the seller made it and is now deceased. I wondered if someone here might know right off. The outside surface is so clean that I figured it had to be pulled from a female mold, so I also figured that mold must be somewhere! I'd be happy to pull parts from it, I can do glass work. If I have no luck, the gameplan is to install an aluminum cowl for now, and start from scratch on a sexy cowl. -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188186#188186


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    Time: 03:09:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Randy Bruce's old Pietenpol---nice cowling
    From: "MikeD" <mjdt@auracom.com>
    michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov wrote: > This is one sweet Pietenpol. Randy Bruce flew it up from Florida to Oshkosh So, Mike, is this in response to my question above? [Laughing] That's the one! -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188187#188187


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    Time: 05:14:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cowls
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    That's the one. The photo was one I shot at Brussels last year, when they had the plane out on display. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188202#188202




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