---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/20/08: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:06 AM - cremated remains(ashes) (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 2. 09:06 AM - More on N28LT (MikeD) 3. 09:44 AM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Michael Silvius) 4. 09:53 AM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (walt evans) 5. 09:59 AM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Phillips, Jack) 6. 10:11 AM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Gary Boothe) 7. 10:20 AM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Robert Gow) 8. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM) 9. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Robert Gow) 10. 01:35 PM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (H RULE) 11. 04:25 PM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (Gene Rambo) 12. 04:37 PM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (zharvey@bellsouth.net) 13. 06:49 PM - Re: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit (Dick Navratil) 14. 07:04 PM - Re: cremated remains(ashes) (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 15. 08:04 PM - Re: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:36 AM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: More on N28LT From: "MikeD" Well, I've been digging and scratching and after tracking and snooping, evidence points to Randy Bruce as the most likely culprit for that cowling. Does anyone know Randy Bruce and his current whereabouts, or have contact info? Nothing showed up on the FAA database pilot search, I am not sure what else to try at this point. I'd love to contact him. Thx! -------- Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188768#188768 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:58 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) whaaaaatttttt???? ----- Original Message ----- From: TGSTONE236@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:22 AM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) Man, That sure is off topic. :^) Walt Evans NX140DL "Let's Legalize Freedom" ----- Original Message ----- From: TGSTONE236@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:28 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) From: "Phillips, Jack" What prompted this? And what does it have to do with Pietenpols? Jack Phillips Scratching my head over this one... _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TGSTONE236@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. _____ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars . _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:54 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) I think it was accidentally brought over from the Corvair group..has to do with a corvair powered KR2 and a deceased friend. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (10 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips, Jack Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) What prompted this? And what does it have to do with Pietenpols? Jack Phillips Scratching my head over this one. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TGSTONE236@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. _____ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars . ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:21 AM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) That explains a lot. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of TGSTONE236@aol.com Sent: June 20, 2008 12:00 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:44 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) OK I will tie it to Airplanes and then to Piets. Some friends were tasked with spreading the ashes (Bones?) of a farmer over his ranch in the Texas Panhandle. When they got over the farm in a Cessna they opened the window and held the urn outside. When they took the lid off the contents swirled into the window and got in their eyes, hair and over everything. I guess some of it went out the window. They flew back to the airport, vacuumed him up and went up and did it again, holding the urn further out and back. It worked this time but I bet some of him is still in that plane. So If you are asked dump ashes from your open cockpit plane (IE a Piet.) you need to make sure that you get them far enough out. Blue Skies Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillips, Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) > What prompted this? And what does it have to do with Pietenpols? > > > > Jack Phillips > > Scratching my head over this one... > > > > _____ > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > TGSTONE236@aol.com > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) > > > > For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a > cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only > bones are > left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and > groundto a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will > be surprised > at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up > ashes. > > > > > > _____ > > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used > cars . > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary > or otherwise private information. If you have received it in > error, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by > you is prohibited. > > Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - > Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:44 AM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) Or us a crop duster and mix the ashes with water. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM Sent: June 20, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) OK I will tie it to Airplanes and then to Piets. Some friends were tasked with spreading the ashes (Bones?) of a farmer over his ranch in the Texas Panhandle. When they got over the farm in a Cessna they opened the window and held the urn outside. When they took the lid off the contents swirled into the window and got in their eyes, hair and over everything. I guess some of it went out the window. They flew back to the airport, vacuumed him up and went up and did it again, holding the urn further out and back. It worked this time but I bet some of him is still in that plane. So If you are asked dump ashes from your open cockpit plane (IE a Piet.) you need to make sure that you get them far enough out. Blue Skies Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillips, Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) > What prompted this? And what does it have to do with Pietenpols? > > > Jack Phillips > > Scratching my head over this one... > > > _____ > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > TGSTONE236@aol.com > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) > > > For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a > cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only > bones are > left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and > groundto a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will > be surprised > at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up > ashes. > > > _____ > > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used > cars . > > > _________________________________________________ > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary > or otherwise private information. If you have received it in > error, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by > you is prohibited. > > Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - > Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:53 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) Bags of mostly water! do not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: "TGSTONE236@aol.com" Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00:20 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. ________________________________ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:45 PM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) I do not know where that poster got his information, but it is incorrect. That is NOT what/how the ashes are handled, nor is it what they look like. I had thought that it was common knowledge by now that ashes will come back into a window. I have done dozens of drops, we built a piece of 3" PVC that we clamp to a gear leg with a rubber stopper in the end. Pull the stopper and it is dumped without wearing it. It is pretty disgusting stuff, but not white and powdery. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: H RULE To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) Bags of mostly water! do not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: "TGSTONE236@aol.com" > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00:20 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:50 PM PST US From: "zharvey@bellsouth.net" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) Jack, speaking of ashes, my plans for flying to Broadhead have been turned into ashes. I'm still on the West Coast trip on my motorcycle and my other half is saying "enough is enough!" I'm still trying tho. Told her I would take her on a mimi vacation when I get back, just didn't mention it would be in Southern Wisconsin.. Still hope to see you there. Gene from Tennessee in Seattle Original Message: ----------------- From: Phillips, Jack Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) What prompted this? And what does it have to do with Pietenpols? Jack Phillips Scratching my head over this one... _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TGSTONE236@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. _____ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars . _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:20 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit John A few days have passed since your post with no comments from anyone. You might know this might be a touchey subject with some. My wife has ridden with me a couple of times but she likes her horses. One of the guys commented the other night after flying, while sitting around the hangar, how nice it is to have a place to go where the wife won't follow. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Recine" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit I can't wait for my turn to come to enjoy one of the unidentified joys of sharing my project with the world. We just passed our 35 wedding anniversary, time sure has a way of evaporating. My wife dispises small aircraft she dislikes flying in any form unless it is a necessary evil to a vacation destination. She has little regard for my Piet and at times resents my discussing it with others who ask about the progress. That being the case I doubt she will ever look at it let alone fly with me. The entire topic has been the source of many unpleasent evenings. I have resigned myself to the realization that the front pit will be reserved to curious invitees capable of appreciating the experience and my travel gear. I do intend to fly off into the sunset with my course set for a new and exciting adventure at each new destination but never loosing sight of the rewards gained through the journey. John NX895BP reserved Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Dick Navratil" To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit Mike You are so right about watching every constantly. I was parked on the grass at a fly in last fall and found a heavy old guy using my elevator as a back rest like it was a lawn chair. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit Great photos of you and your wife Jack and hats off to her for going along with you to the weekend event at the Udvar-Hazy National Air & Space Museum ! Letting kids sit in the cockpit is extremely gratifying when you see them light up as you let them move the controls and point out how the ailerons work like (as I like to explain) how you lean your bicycle over when you make turns. This Mennonite family at the Indianapolis air show was just one example. That one visit made my entire trip totally worthwhile. Those kids were thrilled. Mike C. PS-- then again you have to watch out for the unruly brats who have ignorant, hands-off parents who try to climb up the side of your fuselage side kicking and grappling for entry. I literally had to pull a kid off of my plane one time as he was bashing the side stringer trying to get his legs over the longeron by the cockpit. The mother said 'oh Johnny, why don't you come over here and we'll go get you some ice cream. You takes the good with the bad at a flying event. (just don't stray too far from your airplane ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:22 PM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) I got my information on crematories by working at them while wiring up additional furnaces being installed. I am in the process of wiring a 3 furnace building now. The bones I see coming out of the furnace are white. Granted these are animal bones from cats to horses. Evidently the places I worked at must use a better mixmaster for grinding or grind them longer. Enough said on this subject. I should never have commented and I apoligize to the group for wasting Pietenpol time. In a message dated 6/20/2008 7:27:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, generambo@msn.com writes: I do not know where that poster got his information, but it is incorrect. That is NOT what/how the ashes are handled, nor is it what they look like. I had thought that it was common knowledge by now that ashes will come back into a window. I have done dozens of drops, we built a piece of 3" PVC that we clamp to a gear leg with a rubber stopper in the end. Pull the stopper and it is dumped without wearing it. It is pretty disgusting stuff, but not white and powdery. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: _H RULE_ (mailto:harvey.rule@rogers.com) Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) Bags of mostly water! do not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: "_TGSTONE236@aol.com_ (mailto:TGSTONE236@aol.com) " <_TGSTONE236@aol.com_ (mailto:TGSTONE236@aol.com) > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00:20 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cremated remains(ashes) For those of you who don't know, there are no ashes left when a cremation has taken place. when the gas furnace is opened only bones are left. The bones are put into a machine looking like a blender and ground to a fine powder.That is what you call the ashes. You will be surprised at the weight of the bones in a urn if you think you are picking up ashes. ____________________________________ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient _used cars_ (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) . title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenp ol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit From: "=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?=" Certainly a valuable comment, we all need a clubhouse of sorts. I can't wait to get mine. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Dick Navratil" To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit John A few days have passed since your post with no comments from anyone. You might know this might be a touchey subject with some. My wife has ridden with me a couple of times but she likes her horses. One of the guys commented the other night after flying, while sitting around the hangar, how nice it is to have a place to go where the wife won't follow. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Recine" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit I can't wait for my turn to come to enjoy one of the unidentified joys of sharing my project with the world. We just passed our 35 wedding anniversary, time sure has a way of evaporating. My wife dispises small aircraft she dislikes flying in any form unless it is a necessary evil to a vacation destination. She has little regard for my Piet and at times resents my discussing it with others who ask about the progress. That being the case I doubt she will ever look at it let alone fly with me. The entire topic has been the source of many unpleasent evenings. I have resigned myself to the realization that the front pit will be reserved to curious invitees capable of appreciating the experience and my travel gear. I do intend to fly off into the sunset with my course set for a new and exciting adventure at each new destination but never loosing sight of the rewards gained through the journey. John NX895BP reserved Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Dick Navratil" To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit Mike You are so right about watching every constantly. I was parked on the grass at a fly in last fall and found a heavy old guy using my elevator as a back rest like it was a lawn chair. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying spouse and letting kids sit in the cockpit Great photos of you and your wife Jack and hats off to her for going along with you to the weekend event at the Udvar-Hazy National Air & Space Museum ! Letting kids sit in the cockpit is extremely gratifying when you see them light up as you let them move the controls and point out how the ailerons work like (as I like to explain) how you lean your bicycle over when you make turns. This Mennonite family at the Indianapolis air show was just one example. That one visit made my entire trip totally worthwhile. Those kids were thrilled. Mike C. PS-- then again you have to watch out for the unruly brats who have ignorant, hands-off parents who try to climb up the side of your fuselage side kicking and grappling for entry. I literally had to pull a kid off of my plane one time as he was bashing the side stringer trying to get his legs over the longeron by the cockpit. The mother said 'oh Johnny, why don't you come over here and we'll go get you some ice cream. You takes the good with the bad at a flying event. 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