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1. 04:48 AM - Re: How light is your battery? (hvandervoo@aol.com)
2. 05:53 AM - How light is your battery? (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 06:22 AM - Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Dave Abramson)
5. 06:53 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
6. 07:06 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
7. 07:24 AM - First flight (HelsperSew@aol.com)
8. 07:30 AM - Re: How light is your battery? (Rick Holland)
9. 07:35 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Roman Bukolt)
10. 07:36 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Rick Holland)
11. 07:48 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
12. 07:57 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (John Hofmann)
13. 08:05 AM - Re: Placing Cessna advertising in flight sim games (HelsperSew@aol.com)
14. 08:22 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Patrick Panzera)
15. 08:24 AM - Re: Placing Cessna advertising in flight sim games (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
16. 08:38 AM - One Six Right (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
17. 09:44 AM - Oscar, Rides (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC])
18. 10:24 AM - Re: One Six Right (Patrick Panzera)
19. 10:53 AM - Re: Oscar, Rides (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
20. 11:04 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
21. 11:17 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
22. 11:38 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Tim Willis)
23. 11:50 AM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Isablcorky@aol.com)
24. 12:41 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Tim Willis)
25. 01:20 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (walt)
26. 01:48 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Roman Bukolt)
27. 01:52 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA FORSCOM)
28. 02:15 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Pastor Mike)
29. 02:37 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
30. 02:42 PM - Brodhead.. Giving rides (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
31. 07:18 PM - Re: How light is your battery? (Dick Navratil)
32. 07:26 PM - a dissapointing day (Dick Navratil)
33. 08:21 PM - Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) (Roman Bukolt)
34. 08:34 PM - Re: How light is your battery? (Roman Bukolt)
35. 10:52 PM - Best movie flying scenes (bike.mike)
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| Subject: | Re: How light is your battery? |
Rick,
I am using the ATP Ultrabat 13 from Aircraft Spruce, 10 LBs
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:45 pm
Subject: Fwd: Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
Sorry, forgot to include the link:
http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4529&parentid=0&stocknumber=25-90000
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From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
For you guys with batteries in your Piets which one are you using and
what does it weigh? William Wynne recommends the Odyssey PC680 which
weights 15 lbs for Corvairs. I was looking at some Miata racing stuff
and came across this Braille racing battery with similiar output and
cost which only weights 6 lbs. If it will start a 10 to 1 compression
ratio Miata engine it should turn over a Corvair or O-200.
Rick
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| Subject: | How light is your battery? |
Rick
Mark Langford has hundreds of hours on his Corvair-powered KR with both the 2700
and the 3100 "Big Boy" engines. He runs a Panasonic 18 amp-hour UPS battery
that weighs, if I remember correctly, less than 6 lbs. He recently swapped it
out for a 20 Ah battery that has the same form factor. It's just a sealed lead
acid UPS battery, and I think it cost $24 or so from somewhere online.
Mark's airplane has relatively full electrics, radio, EFIS, and of course starter
and that little battery starts it just fine.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a few days
ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some 48 years
ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my grandfather's
auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires of the
Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande river snaking
around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water tower... and here
I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same sights.
Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask me
for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
We have a Gated airport where I am building / flying.... Those kids could
be terrorist in disguise! Not allowed to look around an airport like I used
to do on my bicycle..... Times have changed????????????
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar
Zuniga
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a few
days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some 48
years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my
grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires
of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande
river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same
sights.
Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask
me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Oscar, I'd like to think that's because kids are looking higher; to space,
but unfortunately I feel its because they get all the stimulation they want
(need?) from a video screen. Why hang around an airport and beg for a ride when
they can fly the plane any way they want at home on a computer?
I actually had someone in their twenties tell me they knew how to fly. When
I asked them what they had flown and how many hours, between the inventory and
the hours something did not add up. When I pushed further they finally
admitted it was all flight simm time. They had never actually sat in a pilots
seat.
They were quite indignant when I laughed and discounted all of it.
They said it was easy and they could probably fly anything once thy knew
where all the controls were. They were serious!
Yah, for an open cockpit I guess an electric fan would make it a totally
real experience? Fur sure.
We are sorry about the passing of your friend Wally but he will live on as
long as you connect him with the gift he gave you of your first flight. I
remember mine in an Ercoupe when I was 16.
Regards, Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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In a message dated 7/15/2008 8:23:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a few
days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some 48
years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my
grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires
of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande
river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water tower...
and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same sights.
Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask
me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
I think that may be one common thread many of us have, someone took us for
our first flight at a young impressionable age?
Young Eagles may be just the thing to make that imprint.
Flown any Young Eagles lately?
Regards, Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
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In a message dated 7/15/2008 8:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
davea@symbolicdisplays.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dave Abramson"
<davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
We have a Gated airport where I am building / flying.... Those kids could
be terrorist in disguise! Not allowed to look around an airport like I used
to do on my bicycle..... Times have changed????????????
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar
Zuniga
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a few
days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some 48
years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my
grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires
of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande
river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same
sights.
Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask
me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Hello good people!!
My first airplane flight was given to me by a Civil Air Patrol volunteer in
an Aeronca Champ circa 1967 at Schaumburg (IL) Airport. His name was Rudy
Gasperich. He was a tireless worker and was the fixture tow pilot for our CAP
glider operation in a farmers field in Algonquin IL. back in those days. I can
remember that he would sit in that towplane (PA-12) for about 4 hours at a
time, never getting out of the seat. When he was running low on fuel he would
fly over to Crystal Lake (now Lake-in-the-hills). ...........I guess that is
why I am partial to Aeroncas.
Anyway I met up with him many years later over at Poplar Grove, and told him
how much I appreciated him for doing all that.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: How light is your battery? |
Was just thinking about overall weight, but you are correct, forward CG is
almost a good problem to have with a Piet. Did you mount your battery on the
firewall?
Rick
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net>
wrote:
> Rick
> I use the Odessy 680 with my Rotec. It turns over fine and can be mounted
> in any position. Do you really care about weight that much when it forward
> of CG? 4 lb of weight roughly at the firewall equalls 1 lb at the
> tailwheel. Abit of weight at the FW can keep from having to move the wing
> back excessively.
> Dick N.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 10:18 PM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
>
> For you guys with batteries in your Piets which one are you using and what
> does it weigh? William Wynne recommends the Odyssey PC680 which weights 15
> lbs for Corvairs. I was looking at some Miata racing stuff and came across
> this Braille racing battery with similiar output and cost which only weights
> 6 lbs. If it will start a 10 to 1 compression ratio Miata engine it should
> turn over a Corvair or O-200.
>
> Rick
>
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> Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Boy! You must take having a "Sterile" cockpit when landing, pretty
seriously.
I hate it when they scream and holler when I'm trying to concentrate
on Final.
Roman Bukolt NX20795
Do not archive
ul 15, 2008, at 8:56 AM, CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote:
> I think that may be one common thread many of us have, someone took
> us for our first flight at a young impressionable age?
> Young Eagles may be just the thing to make that imprint.
> Flown any Young Eagles lately?
>
> Regards, Chrissi
>
> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
> www.CozyGirrrl.com
> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
> ==============================
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> In a message dated 7/15/2008 8:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, davea@symbolicdisplays.com
> writes:
> >
>
> We have a Gated airport where I am building / flying.... Those kids
> could
> be terrorist in disguise! Not allowed to look around an airport
> like I used
> to do on my bicycle..... Times have changed????????????
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar
> Zuniga
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:20 AM
> To: Pietenpol List
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
>
>
> >
>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having
> died a few
> days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe,
> some 48
> years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at
> my
> grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the
> tires
> of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio
> Grande
> river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
> tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the
> same
> sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any
> kid ask
> me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at e the es y --> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Agreed, I was going to say the same thing, most kids get their thrills with
video games. And they don't have to learn FARs, take written and flight
tests, etc.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:51 AM, <CozyGirrrl@aol.com> wrote:
> Oscar, I'd like to think that's because kids are looking higher; to
> space, but unfortunately I feel its because they get all the stimulation
> they want (need?) from a video screen. Why hang around an airport and beg
> for a ride when they can fly the plane any way they want at home on a
> computer?
> I actually had someone in their twenties tell me they knew how to fly. When
> I asked them what they had flown and how many hours, between the inventory
> and the hours something did not add up. When I pushed further they finally
> admitted it was all flight simm time. They had never actually sat in a
> pilots seat.
> They were quite indignant when I laughed and discounted all of it.
> They said it was easy and they could probably fly anything once thy knew
> where all the controls were. They were serious!
> Yah, for an open cockpit I guess an electric fan would make it a totally
> real experience? Fur sure.
>
> We are sorry about the passing of your friend Wally but he will live on as
> long as you connect him with the gift he gave you of your first flight. I
> remember mine in an Ercoupe when I was 16.
>
> Regards, Chrissi
>
> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
> www.CozyGirrrl.com
> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
> ==============================
> If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires
> we fill out a form you will not hear from us.
> Please do not make your spam problem ours.
> In a message dated 7/15/2008 8:23:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a
> few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some
> 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my
> grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires
> of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande
> river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
> tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same
> sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask
> me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Maybe someone should lobby the video game companies to put Cessna Flight
Centers first flight coupons in with video games, some on screen blurbs about
Young Eagles?
Sounds like a mission for Osh?
If everybody talked to their EAA chapter officers and then when you go by
Microsoft and the other flight simm booths you can mention how they should
mention real flight opportunities in the opening credits?
...Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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In a message dated 7/15/2008 9:37:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
at7000ft@gmail.com writes:
Agreed, I was going to say the same thing, most kids get their thrills with
video games. And they don't have to learn FARs, take written and flight
tests, etc.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:51 AM, <_CozyGirrrl@aol.com_
(mailto:CozyGirrrl@aol.com) > wrote:
Oscar, I'd like to think that's because kids are looking higher; to space,
but unfortunately I feel its because they get all the stimulation they want
(need?) from a video screen. Why hang around an airport and beg for a ride when
they can fly the plane any way they want at home on a computer?
I actually had someone in their twenties tell me they knew how to fly. When
I asked them what they had flown and how many hours, between the inventory
and the hours something did not add up. When I pushed further they finally
admitted it was all flight simm time. They had never actually sat in a pilots
seat.
They were quite indignant when I laughed and discounted all of it.
They said it was easy and they could probably fly anything once thy knew
where all the controls were. They were serious!
Yah, for an open cockpit I guess an electric fan would make it a totally
real experience? Fur sure.
We are sorry about the passing of your friend Wally but he will live on as
long as you connect him with the gift he gave you of your first flight. I
remember mine in an Ercoupe when I was 16.
Regards, Chrissi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/)
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
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In a message dated 7/15/2008 8:23:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
_taildrags@hotmail.com_ (mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com) writes:
(mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com) >
Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a few
days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some 48
years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my
grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires
of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande
river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water tower...
and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same sights.
Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask
me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: _taildrags@hotmail.com_ (mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com)
website at =======================
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
There is a lot to compete for leisure time that we did not have as
kids; all of it in the comfort of our own homes. We used to play
pickup baseball and now it is soccer tournaments, all organized by
parents. My guess is there are a lot of parents that would not only
NOT encourage a bike trip to the airport but would not allow them to
ride their bike there in the first place.
I don't think I am old at 44, but I do remember when a friend of ours
who was a feed salesman gave us a four function calculator he had as a
promotional item. That was pretty cool to push those buttons and see
those LEDs light up. My first ride was with a traffic reporter in
Sacrament, CA (Bill Black). My dad new him from Lions Club and he
invited us up for a morning. That ride has stuck with me and fueled a
passion that has lasted for 39 years.
But, on the positive side, I have a 13 year old daughter that loves to
fly and hang out at the airport. The airport bums love having her
around and she is always ready to jump in the Cub. I always let her
run around the airport and explore. She was timid to do that at first,
but now takes it as routine. I often find her in one of the chairs in
Steve Krog's hangar just reading a book and and being where the action
is. HXF is a different kind of airport I guess, no fence and lots of
neat airplanes. Last Saturday when I was at the gas pump, I spied
three Cubs, two champs, two PA-12s and a Travel Air. Not too bad for
9:00 A.M. on a Saturday.
I Ramble,
-john-
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On Jul 15, 2008, at 8:56 AM, CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote:
> I think that may be one common thread many of us have, someone took
> us for our first flight at a young impressionable age?
> Young Eagles may be just the thing to make that imprint.
> Flown any Young Eagles lately?
> <kids.jpg>
> Regards, Chrissi
>
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> In a message dated 7/15/2008 8:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, davea@symbolicdisplays.com
> writes:
> >
>
> We have a Gated airport where I am building / flying.... Those kids
> could
> be terrorist in disguise! Not allowed to look around an airport
> like I used
> to do on my bicycle..... Times have changed????????????
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar
> Zuniga
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:20 AM
> To: Pietenpol List
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
>
>
> >
>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having
> died a few
> days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe,
> some 48
> years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at
> my
> grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the
> tires
> of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio
> Grande
> river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
> tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the
> same
> sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any
> kid ask
> me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Placing Cessna advertising in flight sim games |
Chrissy,
Brilliant idea! Are you a marketing major? This idea needs to be conveyed
to Cessna....It would be the best advertising money they ever spent!
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| Subject: | Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid
> ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
We have to go get them.
Best movies ever was a recent topic. One I didn't see mentioned is a new
movie called One Six Right
http://www.terwilligerproductions.com/onesixright/
It addresses the issue in a very moving documentary with the most beautiful
cinematography you'll ever see. Watch it on your computer or on a high-def
TV and you'll be brought to tears.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Placing Cessna advertising in flight sim games |
LOL, no, engineering geekette that worked close to marketing =)
I have no idea why Cessna and Sporties does not go for it, Sporties should
put their free sample lesson DVD in with each game DVD and get more bang for
their buck.
MS Flight Simm had Rod Machado do the tutorials for Flight Simm, it sort of
works, often malfunctioned and not let you continue to the next level of
tutorial, you lose the continuity, honest I did not fail a lesson! =)
But the tutorial in conjunction with the very clearly done 3D lessons from
Sporty's and some incentive coupons from Cessna, contact information from EAA
Young Eagles...is there room in a DVD case for the cattle prod to get their
butts off the sofa?
This is like me trying to get an old boyfriend to come to Osh the first
time, I desperately want him to come and experience it but truthfully you can't
want it for them more than they do for themselves. Either they find the self
motivation at some point or they are just not interested enough to carry
through.
I remember in the 70's a friend of mine (business partner) was a Marine
Reserve UH-1B Huey pilot, he would do these hops during the week where he'd
arrange with a high school to land on their sports field and then let the kids
come out and check out the Huey. I loved to drive over and watch the kids geek
out on the helicopter.
Regards, Chrissi
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Chrissy,
Brilliant idea! Are you a marketing major? This idea needs to be conveyed
to Cessna....It would be the best advertising money they ever spent!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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One Six Right
There will probably be a showing of it at Osh, theater in the woods or maybe
the museum?
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In a message dated 7/15/2008 10:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
panzera@experimental-aviation.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Patrick Panzera"
<panzera@experimental-aviation.com>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid
> ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
We have to go get them.
Best movies ever was a recent topic. One I didn't see mentioned is a new
movie called One Six Right
http://www.terwilligerproductions.com/onesixright/
It addresses the issue in a very moving documentary with the most beautiful
cinematography you'll ever see. Watch it on your computer or on a high-def
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I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC-
>had any kid ask me for a ride,
Oscar,
Evidently they've seen you flying before.
( Sorry Oscar, I couldn't resist posting this ! Please forgive the
intrusion good people:)
Mike C.
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One Six Right
There will probably be a showing of it at Osh, theater in the woods or maybe
the museum?
Probably yes to both but do yourself a favor and buy the DVD.
It's totally worth owning.
Hopefully you already saw the trailer I sent. Here's some poor quality
YouTube versions that will give you a better idea of what it's all about.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r6Zwv6iRh5w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B_MahVsiQ98
Be sure and read the comments.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Oscar, Rides |
You're not leaving? You grasp things very well but don't you leave either,
if you carry my gas can, at the end of the day I'll give you a free lesson.
Judging from that landing you could use all the help you can get
Sorry Mike that was just too rich, to not respond!
John
In a message dated 7/15/2008 12:45:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC-
>had any kid ask me for a ride,
Oscar,
Evidently they've seen you flying before.
( Sorry Oscar, I couldn't resist posting this ! Please forgive the
intrusion good people:)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Oscar, the kid ,14 years old and taller than me, with me the other day won't ask
for a ride. He is just that quiet. but he loves flying. Part of it may be that
they don't think that they will get a ride. Also their parents don't want them
to "beg" or bother people. A pilot invited him to ride in his Pelecan LSA.
He really enjoyed it. Several months ago I flew him in my Vtail.
My boys are split. One is wary of flying (he gets motion sick) and the other argues
that he loves planes more than I do.
Just remember, I am almost always willing to go up.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
35
SA, GRT
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having
> died a few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his
> Luscombe, some 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the
> GMAC finance manager at my grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway
> Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under
> the tires of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking
> at the Rio Grande river snaking around to encircle my home town,
> the hospital, the water tower... and here I am a half-century
> later, still marveling at the same sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had
> any kid ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the
> airport.
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
If any one of you wake up and find either Randi or I sitting in your front
seat,
please ask us if we want a ride, OK? =)
....Chrissi (any excuse for an aeroplane ride will do)
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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===============================
In a message dated 7/15/2008 1:05:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM"
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
Oscar, the kid ,14 years old and taller than me, with me the other day won't
ask for a ride. He is just that quiet. but he loves flying. Part of it may
be that they don't think that they will get a ride. Also their parents don't
want them to "beg" or bother people. A pilot invited him to ride in his
Pelecan LSA. He really enjoyed it. Several months ago I flew him in my Vtail.
My boys are split. One is wary of flying (he gets motion sick) and the other
argues that he loves planes more than I do.
Just remember, I am almost always willing to go up.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
35
SA, GRT
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having
> died a few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his
> Luscombe, some 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the
> GMAC finance manager at my grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway
> Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under
> the tires of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking
> at the Rio Grande river snaking around to encircle my home town,
> the hospital, the water tower... and here I am a half-century
> later, still marveling at the same sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had
> any kid ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the
> airport.
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Oscar,
Maybe kids look at Piets and wonder if they can really fly, like me boarding a
C-119 many years ago, or anyone watching a bumblebee. Little do they know that
you can cuise at Mach .1
How about a ride for this big fat old kid next Saturday?
Tim in central TX
==========================
>> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid ask
me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
>> Oscar Zuniga
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Tim,
If you can manage to wiggle in the front pit of 41CC I'll bet your ass will
never get out.
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Nathan and Corky,
You are right about that. I'd never get in.
Oscar offered me a ride-- even with me in the back seat and him in the front--
but I have material "fit and finish" issues, as you know. I am too tall, too
wide, and I don't bend. My knees still hit the now-truncated instrument panel
bottom in the back pit of your long fuze 31CC. Where is Chuck Gantzer and his
baby oil, when you need him?
And of course, with me in the back, there would be CG issues, too.
However, I'll be content to prop Oscar and smell the slipstream as he rolls 41CC
away, and see him make some low passes down the grass strip.
Re 31CC, I am still looking for the best place for steps (1,2,3? haha) for me--
fuhgetaboutit-- no step for the passenger. Can you say "Ladder"?
Tim in central TX
working on NX44TT (Corky's former 31CC)--
"I love the smell of epoxy in the morning"
-----Original Message-----
>From: Isablcorky@aol.com
>Sent: Jul 15, 2008 1:46 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
>
>Tim,
>If you can manage to wiggle in the front pit of 41CC I'll bet your ass will
>never get out.
>Nathan
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Oscar,
I'm not a big ride giver, But I've given my share.
I think we see the ride giving in a different perspective. We forget how
little the riders know about flying. Which is good thing. Because we don't
realize what impact we have on these people.
Just last night, my freind Don called (he was on the youtube video with me)
He's a retired IRS agent,,, He realized life was too short, and after flying
with me , he started glider lessons.
He's got about 20 hours and wants to fly with me again soon.
Another success story.
I guess we do make a difference.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge,,, and no one can ever take it from you"
Benjamin Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died a
> few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe, some
> 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager at my
> grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the tires
> of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio Grande
> river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
> tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the same
> sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any kid
> ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Chrissi and Randi, if you are going to be at Brodhead, Talk to Bill
Rewey. He'll take you up (one at a time, of course).
He has a widely known reputation for flying women, mostly wives of
Piet builders. Very typically upon landing, their first comment is to
their spouses. "How soon will you finish yours?"
Roman Bukolt NX20795
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On Jul 15, 2008, at 1:14 PM, CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote:
> If any one of you wake up and find either Randi or I sitting in your
> front seat,
> please ask us if we want a ride, OK? =)
>
> ....Chrissi (any excuse for an aeroplane ride will do)
>
> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
> www.CozyGirrrl.com
> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
> ==============================
> In a message dated 7/15/2008 1:05:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil
> writes:
> FORSCOM" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
>
> Oscar, the kid ,14 years old and taller than me, with me the other
> day won't ask for a ride. He is just that quiet. but he loves
> flying. Part of it may be that they don't think that they will get a
> ride. Also their parents don't want them to "beg" or bother people.
> A pilot invited him to ride in his Pelecan LSA. He really enjoyed
> it. Several months ago I flew him in my Vtail.
>
> My boys are split. One is wary of flying (he gets motion sick) and
> the other argues that he loves planes more than I do.
>
> Just remember, I am almost always willing to go up.
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
> 35
> SA, GRT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:43
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
> To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
> > <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having
> > died a few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his
> > Luscombe, some 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the
> > GMAC finance manager at my grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway
> > Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
> >
> > I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under
> > the tires of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking
> > at the Rio Grande river snaking around to encircle my home town,
> > the hospital, the water tower... and here I am a half-century
> > later, still marveling at the same sights.
> >
> > Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had
> > any kid ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the
> > airport.
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > Air Camper NX41CC
> > San Antonio, TX
> > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
I try to keep first rides to aobut 20 minutes. I try to do them in the
AM when it is smother and I don't do any radical maneuvers. I want the
first time flyer to really enjoy the experience and come back for more.
Perhaps learning to fly.
We have to grow our own to keep aviation healthy.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
Oscar,
I'm not a big ride giver, But I've given my share.
I think we see the ride giving in a different perspective. We forget
how little the riders know about flying. Which is good thing. Because
we don't realize what impact we have on these people.
Just last night, my freind Don called (he was on the youtube video with
me) He's a retired IRS agent,,, He realized life was too short, and
after flying with me , he started glider lessons.
He's got about 20 hours and wants to fly with me again soon.
Another success story.
I guess we do make a difference.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge,,, and no one can ever take it from you"
Benjamin Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having died
a
> few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his Luscombe,
some
> 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the GMAC finance manager
at my
> grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>
> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under the
tires
> of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking at the Rio
Grande
> river snaking around to encircle my home town, the hospital, the water
> tower... and here I am a half-century later, still marveling at the
same
> sights.
>
> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had any
kid
> ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the airport.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Steve,
You hit it on the head!
Pastor Mike in Iowa
Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM wrote:
>
> Oscar, the kid ,14 years old and taller than me, with me the other day won't
ask for a ride. He is just that quiet. but he loves flying. Part of it may be
that they don't think that they will get a ride. Also their parents don't want
them to "beg" or bother people. A pilot invited him to ride in his Pelecan LSA.
He really enjoyed it. Several months ago I flew him in my Vtail.
>
> My boys are split. One is wary of flying (he gets motion sick) and the other
argues that he loves planes more than I do.
>
> Just remember, I am almost always willing to go up.
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
> 35
> SA, GRT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:43
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wally Carson (1924-2008)
> To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
>
>> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>>
>> Yesterday's obituaries listed Wallace B. "Wally" Carson as having
>> died a few days ago. Wally gave me my first airplane ride, in his
>> Luscombe, some 48 years ago. When I was growing up he was the
>> GMAC finance manager at my grandfather's auto dealership, Gateway
>> Chevrolet in Laredo, Texas.
>>
>> I remember that flight quite well. The ground melted away under
>> the tires of the Luscombe and the next thing I knew I was looking
>> at the Rio Grande river snaking around to encircle my home town,
>> the hospital, the water tower... and here I am a half-century
>> later, still marveling at the same sights.
>>
>> Funny thing is, I've never -not once since I've owned 41CC- had
>> any kid ask me for a ride, or even seen kids hanging around the
>> airport.
>> Oscar Zuniga
>> Air Camper NX41CC
>> San Antonio, TX
>> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
>> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
"Very typically upon landing, their first comment is to their spouses. "How
soon will you finish yours?""
... oh crap, we don't have anyone to build one for us!
Now What?
=) Chrissi
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Very typically upon landing, their first comment is to their spouses. "How
soon will you finish yours?"
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| Subject: | Brodhead.. Giving rides |
Steve D said "I try to do them in the
AM when it is smother and I don't do any radical maneuvers. I want the
first time flyer to really enjoy the experience and come back for more.
Perhaps learning to fly. "
Steve, you mean you don't do gentle S turns by banking 90 degrees and pull
full up elevator?
(my "introductory ride" in a Long-Ez)
Oh gee, lets see if we can make the chic scream.
I guess there is an advantage to being a passenger in an open cockpit plane
'cause when you hurl the pilot gets a second breakfast =)
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In a message dated 7/15/2008 3:52:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Steven.D.Dortch@us.army.mil writes:
I try to do them in the
AM when it is smother and I don't do any radical maneuvers. I want the
first time flyer to really enjoy the experience and come back for more.
Perhaps learning to fly.
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| Subject: | Re: How light is your battery? |
No, there isnt enough room on the FW. Its under the bridge deck in
front of the passanger.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
Was just thinking about overall weight, but you are correct, forward
CG is almost a good problem to have with a Piet. Did you mount your
battery on the firewall?
Rick
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Dick Navratil
<horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
Rick
I use the Odessy 680 with my Rotec. It turns over fine and can be
mounted in any position. Do you really care about weight that much when
it forward of CG? 4 lb of weight roughly at the firewall equalls 1 lb
at the tailwheel. Abit of weight at the FW can keep from having to move
the wing back excessively.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
For you guys with batteries in your Piets which one are you using
and what does it weigh? William Wynne recommends the Odyssey PC680 which
weights 15 lbs for Corvairs. I was looking at some Miata racing stuff
and came across this Braille racing battery with similiar output and
cost which only weights 6 lbs. If it will start a 10 to 1 compression
ratio Miata engine it should turn over a Corvair or O-200.
Rick
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| Subject: | a dissapointing day |
I have been working on flying off the hours getting the Rotec Piet ready
to go to Brodhead. I have been having some problems with my prop, it
wasn't carved or balanced right from the start. I re carved and
balanced it. Today with 38.3 hours, I found a crack in the prop at the
hub and going out thru one of the bolt holes. There isnt enough time to
get a new one at this point, so I will have to fly the A-65 Piet
instead. I cant just trade props because the hub pattern is different.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Wally Carson (1924-2008) |
Oh! You don't have to be a man to build a Piet. I'll bet you know
how to use a hack saw, a portable electric drill, a table or portable
saw, and it doesn't take much to learn how to use a torch. Just take
one step at a time. At Oshkosh you just might see a pink single place
open cockpit low wing airplane. I was built by a young lady in her
apartment.
"Piece of cake" as they say.
Also, by the way, Bill Rewey is the most charming old gentleman you'll
ever meet and he'll br glad to help any way he can.
Roman
do not archive
On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:34 PM, CozyGirrrl@aol.com wrote:
> "Very typically upon landing, their first comment is to their
> spouses. "How soon will you finish yours?""
>
> ... oh crap, we don't have anyone to build one for us!
> Now What?
>
> =) Chrissi
>
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> www.CozyGirrrl.com
> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
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> In a message dated 7/15/2008 3:49:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, conceptmodels@tds.net
> writes:
> Very typically upon landing, their first comment is to their
> spouses. "How soon will you finish yours?"
>
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| Subject: | Re: How light is your battery? |
The Piet I have was originally designed for a Corvair engine which
froze up. (described in Chet Peek's Pietenpol book)
Ray Hill then installed a much lighter A-65 Continental. When I
bought the plane it was seriously tail heavy. I installed the
heaviest gel cell I could find, 30 # in front of the firewall behind
the engine. And, for some reason the engine mount was built 4 inches
SHORTER than the plan shows, which didn't help.
Roman Bukolt NX20795
On Jul 15, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Dick Navratil wrote:
> No, there isnt enough room on the FW. Its under the bridge deck in
> front of the passanger.
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Holland
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
>
> Was just thinking about overall weight, but you are correct, forward
> CG is almost a good problem to have with a Piet. Did you mount your
> battery on the firewall?
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net
> > wrote:
> Rick
> I use the Odessy 680 with my Rotec. It turns over fine and can be
> mounted in any position. Do you really care about weight that much
> when it forward of CG? 4 lb of weight roughly at the firewall
> equalls 1 lb at the tailwheel. Abit of weight at the FW can keep
> from having to move the wing back excessively.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Holland
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:18 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: How light is your battery?
>
> For you guys with batteries in your Piets which one are you using
> and what does it weigh? William Wynne recommends the Odyssey PC680
> which weights 15 lbs for Corvairs. I was looking at some Miata
> racing stuff and came across this Braille racing battery with
> similiar output and cost which only weights 6 lbs. If it will start
> a 10 to 1 compression ratio Miata engine it should turn over a
> Corvair or O-200.
>
> Rick
>
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> Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Best movie flying scenes |
With all the talk about great flying movies, I wasn't going to challenge
anyone.
However, two of my favorite scenes are from
"Out of Africa" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPYwwKAVA8&feature=related
and from
"Never Cry Wolf"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9RCz0C7sA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKJD8x64KXY
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