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     2. 06:51 AM - Re: Best movie flying scenes (Pastor Mike)
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     4. 07:21 AM - Re: Best movie flying scenes (John Recine)
     5. 08:11 AM - best movie scenes (Dick Navratil)
     6. 09:11 AM - Re: best movie scenes (Pastor Mike)
     7. 09:20 AM - Re: Best movie flying scenes (gcardinal@comcast.net)
     8. 12:35 PM - Re: Best movie flying scenes (Bill Church)
     9. 01:00 PM - Re: Best movie flying scenes (Dave Abramson)
    10. 05:59 PM - Greetings (mr-fix-all)
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      At first glance I thought it was Paddy Wagstaff but after going to youtube 
      and looking for her stuff,it doesn't look like her plane but she sure flys 
      her.In my opinion Paddy is the best aerobatics in the world and she could h
      ave me if she played her cards right!=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----
      =0AFrom: jeremy bramall <outofthebox50@yahoo.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matr
      onics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:50:32 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pieten
      pol-List: Best movie flying scenes=0A=0A=0AI watched one of the related vid
      eos after this clip.- It was labeled Dancing in the hands of God.- I do
      n't watch much aerobatics and don't know who she is, but I love her!=0A-
      =0ACheck it out, here is the link.=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-
      AJV4KU&feature=related=0A=0A-=0AJeremy in Dallas=0A-=0A=0APastor Mike
      or Mike =0A=0A=0AHere is a scene from "High Road to China" =0A=0Ahttp://www
      .youtube.com/watch?v=16nV7g3rFoU=0A=0ATom Selleck is the drunk, Bess is t
      he aerobatic pilot!=0AMike in Iowa=0A=0APastor Mike wrote:=0A> --> Pietenpo
      l-List message posted by: Pastor Mike =0A>=0A> The flying and music from "O
      ut of Africa" was beautiful!! It reminded =0A> me of some of the movie "Hig
      h Road to China", my favorite flying =0A> movie..but I have not seen "Out o
      f Africa" yet, so I am going to get it!=0A> Thanks=0A> Pastor Mike in Iowa
      mike" =0A>> =0A>>=0A>> With all the talk about great flying movies, I wasn'
      t going to challenge=0A>> anyone.=0A>> However, two of my favorite scenes a
      re from=0A>> "Out of Africa" =0A>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPYwwK
      AVA8&feature=related=0A>>=0A>> and from=0A>> "Never Cry Wolf"=0A>> http:/
      ====
      
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      That gal in the video is an Eastern Europe or Russian gal who I heard 
      once was a former women's aerobatic champion.
      Mike in Iowa
      
      H RULE wrote:
      > At first glance I thought it was Paddy Wagstaff but after going to 
      > youtube and looking for her stuff,it doesn't look like her plane but 
      > she sure flys her.In my opinion Paddy is the best aerobatics in the 
      > world and she could have me if she played her cards right!
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: jeremy bramall <outofthebox50@yahoo.com>
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:50:32 PM
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      >
      > I watched one of the related videos after this clip.  It was labeled 
      > Dancing in the hands of God.  I don't watch much aerobatics and don't 
      > know who she is, but I love her!
      >  
      > Check it out, here is the link.
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related 
      > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related>
      >  
      > Jeremy in Dallas
      >  
      >
      > */Pastor Mike <miket@southslope.net>/* wrote:
      >
      >
      >
      >     Here is a scene from "High Road to China"
      >
      >     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16nV7g3rFoU
      >
      >     Tom Selleck is the drunk, Bess is the aerobatic pilot!
      >     Mike in Iowa
      >
      >     Pastor Mike wrote:
      >     >
      >     > The flying and music from "Out of Africa" was beautiful!! It
      >     reminded
      >     > me of some of the movie "High Road to China", my favorite flying
      >     > movie..but I have not seen "Out of Africa" yet, so I am going to
      >     get it!
      >     > Thanks
      >     > Pastor Mike in Iowa
      >     >
      >     > bike.mike wrote:
      >     >>
      >     >>
      >     >> With all the talk about great flying movies, I wasn't going to
      >     challenge
      >     >> anyone.
      >     >> However, two of my favorite scenes are from
      >     >> "Out of Africa"
      >     >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPYwwKAVA8&feature=related
      >     >>
      >     >> and from
      >     >> "Never Cry Wolf"
      >     >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9RCz0C7sA&feature=related
      >     >>
      >
      >     *
      >
      >
      >     *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      
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      Russian stunt pilot....  won some championships too!!!!!! several clips  of
      her..... she is easy on the eyes!
      Dave
      do not archive
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jeremy
      bramall
        Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:51 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
        I watched one of the related videos after this clip.  It was labeled
      Dancing in the hands of God.  I don't watch much aerobatics and don't know
      who she is, but I love her!
      
        Check it out, here is the link.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related
      
      
        Jeremy in Dallas
      
      
        Pastor Mike <miket@southslope.net> wrote:
      
      
          Here is a scene from "High Road to China"
      
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16nV7g3rFoU
      
          Tom Selleck is the drunk, Bess is the aerobatic pilot!
          Mike in Iowa
      
          Pastor Mike wrote:
          >
          > The flying and music from "Out of Africa" was beautiful!! It reminded
          > me of some of the movie "High Road to China", my favorite flying
          > movie..but I have not seen "Out of Africa" yet, so I am going to get
      it!
          > Thanks
          > Pastor Mike in Iowa
          >
          > bike.mike wrote:
          >>
          >>
          >> With all the talk about great flying movies, I wasn't going to
      challenge
          >> anyone.
          >> However, two of my favorite scenes are from
          >> "Out of Africa"
          >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPYwwKAVA8&feature=related
          >>
          >> and from
          >> "Never Cry Wolf"
          >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9RCz0C7sA&feature=related
          >>
      
      
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      I'm glad someone mensioned High Road to China the other day.  Great 
      flying scenes.  Was Tom Selleck in that movie?  All I remember was some 
      beautiful airplanes and Bess Armstrong getting in and out of airplanes.  
      Bess Armstrong in a real nice party dress.  After getting out of the 
      plane Bess didnt even get her hair messed up and there was some guy 
      flying the plane with her.
      Dick
      
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      Yes Tom Selleck was in it...costar with Bess.
      It has some beautiful flying scenes with beautiful music,
      Mike in Iowa
      
      Dick Navratil wrote:
      > I'm glad someone mensioned High Road to China the other day.  Great 
      > flying scenes.  Was Tom Selleck in that movie?  All I remember was 
      > some beautiful airplanes and Bess Armstrong getting in and out of 
      > airplanes.  Bess Armstrong in a real nice party dress.  After getting 
      > out of the plane Bess didnt even get her hair messed up and there was 
      > some guy flying the plane with her.
      > Dick
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      
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      She is Svetlana Kapanina. Most of us would get nothing more than a stern "Nyet"
      from her.......
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> 
      
      At first glance I thought it was Paddy Wagstaff but after going to youtube and
      looking for her stuff,it doesn't look like her plane but she sure flys her.In
      my opinion Paddy is the best aerobatics in the world and she could have me if
      she played her cards right!
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: jeremy bramall <outofthebox50@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:50:32 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
      I watched one of the related videos after this clip.  It was labeled Dancing in
      the hands of God.  I don't watch much aerobatics and don't know who she is, but
      I love her!
      
      Check it out, here is the link.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related
      
      
      Jeremy in Dallas
      
      
      Pastor Mike <miket@southslope.net> wrote:
      
      
      Here is a scene from "High Road to China" 
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16nV7g3rFoU
      
      Tom Selleck is the drunk, Bess is the aerobatic pilot!
      Mike in Iowa
      
      Pastor Mike wrote:
      >
      > The flying and music from "Out of Africa" was beautiful!! It reminded 
      > me of some of the movie "High Road to China", my favorite flying 
      > movie..but I have not seen "Out of Africa" yet, so I am going to get it!
      > Thanks
      > Pastor Mike in Iowa
      >
      > bike.mike wrote:
      >> 
      >>
      >> With all the talk about great flying movies, I wasn't going to challenge
      >> anyone.
      >> However, two of my favorite scenes are from
      >> "Out of Africa" 
      >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPYwwKAVA8&feature=related
      >>
      >> and from
      >> "Never Cry Wolf"
      >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9RCz0C7sA&feature=related
      >> 
      
      
      <html><body>
      <DIV>She is Svetlana Kapanina. Most of us would get nothing more than a stern "Nyet"
      from her.......</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Greg Cardinal</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
      solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
      <BR>
      <STYLE type=text/css><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></STYLE>
      
      <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">At
      first glance I thought it was Paddy Wagstaff but after going to youtube
      and looking for her stuff,it doesn't look like her plane but she sure flys her.In
      my opinion Paddy is the best aerobatics in the world and she could have me
      if she played her cards right!<BR><BR>
      <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">
      <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">-----
      Original Message ----<BR>From: jeremy bramall <outofthebox50@yahoo.com><BR>To:
      pietenpol-list@matronics.com<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008
      10:50:32 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes<BR><BR>
      <DIV>I watched one of the related videos after this clip.  It was labeled
      Dancing in the hands of God.  I don't watch much aerobatics and don't know
      who she is, but I love her!</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Check it out, here is the link.</DIV>
      <DIV><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related</A><BR></DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Jeremy in Dallas</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV><BR><B><I>Pastor Mike <miket@southslope.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Pastor Mike <BR><BR><BR>Here is a scene from "High Road to China" <BR><BR>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16nV7g3rFoU<BR><BR>Tom Selleck is the drunk, Bess is the aerobatic pilot!<BR>Mike in Iowa<BR><BR>Pastor Mike wrote:<BR>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Pastor Mike <BR>><BR>> The flying and music from "Out of Africa" was beautiful!! It reminded <BR>> me of some of the movie "High Road to China", my favorite flying <BR>> movie..but I have not seen "Out of Africa" yet, so I am going to get it!<BR>> Thanks<BR>> Pastor Mike in Iowa<BR>><BR>> bike.mike wrote:<BR>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <BR>>> <BR>>><BR>>> With all the talk about great flying movies, I wasn't going to challenge<BR>>> anyone.<BR>>> However, two of my favorite scenes are 
       from<B
      R>>> "Out of Africa" <BR>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPYwwKAVA8&feature=related<BR>>><BR>>> and from<BR>>> "Never Cry Wolf"<BR>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9RCz0C7sA&feature=related<BR>>> <PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000 size=2>
      
      
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      color=#000000 size=3 new,courier?>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Best movie flying scenes | 
      
      Good point there, John. ???
      
      (I have no idea what you're talking about)
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
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      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Recine
      Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:19 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
      Earnst Kessler the German Ace he was special he shot down 70 planes and
      lived to tell the tale. Shooting down Americans doesn't make a man special,
      a good days work that's what I call special. 
      
      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
      Russian stunt pilot....  won some championships too!!!!!! several clips  of
      her..... she is easy on the eyes!
      Dave
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jeremy
      bramall
      Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:51 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
      I watched one of the related videos after this clip.  It was labeled Dancing
      in the hands of God.  I don't watch much aerobatics and don't know who she
      is, but I love her!
      
      Check it out, here is the link.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU
      <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related>
      &feature=related
      
      
      Jeremy in Dallas
      
      
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      TGWP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  of course........
      
      do not archive
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church
        Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:29 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
        Good point there, John. ???
      
        (I have no idea what you're talking about)
      
        DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Recine
        Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:19 AM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
        Earnst Kessler the German Ace he was special he shot down 70 planes and
      lived to tell the tale. Shooting down Americans doesn't make a man special,
      a good days work that's what I call special.
        Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      
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        From: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
        Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:01:56 -0700
        To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
        Russian stunt pilot....  won some championships too!!!!!! several clips
      of her..... she is easy on the eyes!
        Dave
        do not archive
          -----Original Message-----
          From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jeremy
      bramall
          Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:51 PM
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes
      
      
          I watched one of the related videos after this clip.  It was labeled
      Dancing in the hands of God.  I don't watch much aerobatics and don't know
      who she is, but I love her!
      
          Check it out, here is the link.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4-AJV4KU&feature=related
      
      
          Jeremy in Dallas
      
      
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      To All,
      
      I recently found this forum through the web site of one of the members, www.flyingwood.com.  I spent the better part of Thursday night perusing his site.
      
      About me,  at the tender age of 4 I was introduced to flying by my dad's best friend
      and fellow school teacher.  One of my earliest memories was of flying from
      Waterloo Iowa to Minneapolis, Minnesota and back, in the back seat of a small
      cessna.  Uncle Hadley as we called him promised to teach me to fly when I turned
      13,  he told me I would fly before I could drive.  Sadly he was killed in
      a crop dusting accident before he could teach me.
      As I grew up every thing I read or studied had some connection to flying, now that
      the kids are graduated and moved out, and back in, and out, and back in, and
      out. I have decided to pursue my dream of flight, starting with the construction
      of my own plane.  After spending the last 5 years studying different aircraft
      I decided on a Peitenpol, since I couldn't find anyone with plans for a
      full size Curtiss Jenny, or a full size Tigermoth.  I have spent the last 4 years
      as an Engineering Systems Analyst, before that I spent 7 years with the same
      company as a design engineer. 
      Having spent the last month or so scouring the internet for builders sights, I decided that the first step was to clean up the shop and sell off some of the crap I have accumulated over the years, and use the money to purchases the plans, manuals and so on.  I have also began acquiring materials for the rib jig based on several designs I found in the internet.  To that end  I located the coordinates for the pietenpol wing from http://www.airminded.net/, they had been scaled down so I placed them in Pro Engineer and scaled them up to the 60" length. 
      
      My first question is, I found a PDF copy of an article that was in "Flying and
      Glider manual" written by B.H. Pietenpol.  I compared the dimensions from that
      to the dimensions in Pro Engineer (As soon as I figure out how to send the file
      I will post it) and there are discrepancies,  the Dimensions from the article
      don't produce a smooth surface no matter how you plot them. 
      
      Second question am I wasting my time trying to produce the rib jig before I purchase
      the plans?
      
      
      Jake Spiegel
      Jesup Iowa
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193717#193717
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/drw0003_955.pdf
      
      
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      Welcome Jake
      
      Rather than doing things the hard way its just easier to order the plans and whil
      you wait for thm to arrive, set up your shop. 
      
      I realize that we all build differently at least that's one way to do it. I myself
      wanted the piet ordered and studird the book and plans and after some great
      advice from Hans Vandervort I started the build. 
      
      Hans pretty much told me the best way to build a Piet is to start building and
      it will fall into place
      
      I think that was the best advice I got and certainly got me past the study and
      into the build. 
      
      Thanks Hans
      
      John
      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: "mr-fix-all" <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greetings
      
      
      
      To All,
      
      I recently found this forum through the web site of one of the members, www.flyingwood.com.  I spent the better part of Thursday night perusing his site.
      
      About me,  at the tender age of 4 I was introduced to flying by my dad's best friend
      and fellow school teacher.  One of my earliest memories was of flying from
      Waterloo Iowa to Minneapolis, Minnesota and back, in the back seat of a small
      cessna.  Uncle Hadley as we called him promised to teach me to fly when I turned
      13,  he told me I would fly before I could drive.  Sadly he was killed in
      a crop dusting accident before he could teach me.
      As I grew up every thing I read or studied had some connection to flying, now that
      the kids are graduated and moved out, and back in, and out, and back in, and
      out. I have decided to pursue my dream of flight, starting with the construction
      of my own plane.  After spending the last 5 years studying different aircraft
      I decided on a Peitenpol, since I couldn't find anyone with plans for a
      full size Curtiss Jenny, or a full size Tigermoth.  I have spent the last 4 years
      as an Engineering Systems Analyst, before that I spent 7 years with the same
      company as a design engineer. 
      Having spent the last month or so scouring the internet for builders sights, I decided that the first step was to clean up the shop and sell off some of the crap I have accumulated over the years, and use the money to purchases the plans, manuals and so on.  I have also began acquiring materials for the rib jig based on several designs I found in the internet.  To that end  I located the coordinates for the pietenpol wing from http://www.airminded.net/, they had been scaled down so I placed them in Pro Engineer and scaled them up to the 60" length. 
      
      My first question is, I found a PDF copy of an article that was in "Flying and
      Glider manual" written by B.H. Pietenpol.  I compared the dimensions from that
      to the dimensions in Pro Engineer (As soon as I figure out how to send the file
      I will post it) and there are discrepancies,  the Dimensions from the article
      don't produce a smooth surface no matter how you plot them. 
      
      Second question am I wasting my time trying to produce the rib jig before I purchase
      the plans?
      
      
      Jake Spiegel
      Jesup Iowa
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193717#193717
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/drw0003_955.pdf
      
      
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      My advice is that before you build anything, you get the plans and look them
      over and get a sense of how the whole thing will go together.  Then focus on
      one thing.  The ribs are where I, and many others, started too.  There are
      1/8" doublers on the spars where the metal fittings go and some ribs will
      need to accomodate these locations with a larger opening than most of the
      others. (At least under my interpretation of the plans).  There is a little
      more to it than just the outside coordinates.  I purchased the full-size rib
      plan as well (not to use as a template however) to determine the positioning
      of truss members.  The Flying and Glider only shows the 1 piece wing, but
      the plans have a sheet for the 3 piece wing, which you might be interesting
      in looking at.
      
      I think I ordered all the different plan options and the flying and glider
      manual and it was only around $200.00.  I then spent a month or so looking
      at each page making sure I had a general approach for each area of
      construction.  It's also good to figure out what you need in terms of wood
      and try and make as few orders as possible since shipping will eat you
      alive.
      
      There is a well-known Pietenpol fly-in at Brodhead, WI that's a great place
      to meet and talk to guys building and flying Pietenpols happening next next
      week officially starting on Friday and ending on Sunday morning.
      
      I'm no expert but had all the same questions you have and encourage you to
      get the plans.  They will arrive in a week or so and that is insignificant
      relative to the duration of the project.  EAA sells some great books too.
      Tony Bingelis 4 book series is a must if you don't have them.  I also found
      Advisory Circular 43.13 which you can download from FAA for free helpful
      too.  I think there is a link to it on my site somewhere.  It has guidelines
      for grading wood and other standards for building.
      
      Good luck!
      
        Glenn Thomas
      Storrs, CT
      http://www.flyingwood.com
      
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      Jake,
      
      Go over to Brodhead, WI next Friday / Saturday for the annual Pietenpol 
      fly-in. It is an easy drive from Jesup, IA.
      Regarding the plans discrepencies you've discovered all we can say is 
      "Welcome to the world of Pietenpol, where no two plans agree."
      
      Greg Cardinal
      Minneapolis
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "mr-fix-all" <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>
      Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:57 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greetings
      
      
      > <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>
      >
      > To All,
      >
      > I recently found this forum through the web site of one of the members, 
      > www.flyingwood.com.  I spent the better part of Thursday night perusing 
      > his site.
      >
      > About me,  at the tender age of 4 I was introduced to flying by my dad's 
      > best friend and fellow school teacher.  One of my earliest memories was of 
      > flying from Waterloo Iowa to Minneapolis, Minnesota and back, in the back 
      > seat of a small cessna.  Uncle Hadley as we called him promised to teach 
      > me to fly when I turned 13,  he told me I would fly before I could drive. 
      > Sadly he was killed in a crop dusting accident before he could teach me.
      > As I grew up every thing I read or studied had some connection to flying, 
      > now that the kids are graduated and moved out, and back in, and out, and 
      > back in, and out. I have decided to pursue my dream of flight, starting 
      > with the construction of my own plane.  After spending the last 5 years 
      > studying different aircraft I decided on a Peitenpol, since I couldn't 
      > find anyone with plans for a full size Curtiss Jenny, or a full size 
      > Tigermoth.  I have spent the last 4 years as an Engineering Systems 
      > Analyst, before that I spent 7 years with the same company as a design 
      > engineer.
      > Having spent the last month or so scouring the internet for builders 
      > sights, I decided that the first step was to clean up the shop and sell 
      > off some of the crap I have accumulated over the years, and use the money 
      > to purchases the plans, manuals and so on.  I have also began acquiring 
      > materials for the rib jig based on several designs I found in the 
      > internet.  To that end  I located the coordinates for the pietenpol wing 
      > from http://www.airminded.net/, they had been scaled down so I placed them 
      > in Pro Engineer and scaled them up to the 60" length.
      >
      > My first question is, I found a PDF copy of an article that was in "Flying 
      > and Glider manual" written by B.H. Pietenpol.  I compared the dimensions 
      > from that to the dimensions in Pro Engineer (As soon as I figure out how 
      > to send the file I will post it) and there are discrepancies,  the 
      > Dimensions from the article don't produce a smooth surface no matter how 
      > you plot them.
      >
      > Second question am I wasting my time trying to produce the rib jig before 
      > I purchase the plans?
      >
      >
      > Jake Spiegel
      > Jesup Iowa
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193717#193717
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/drw0003_955.pdf
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
 
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