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1. 05:34 AM - Icon (tbyh@aol.com)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Icon (Bill Church)
3. 06:15 AM - Need contact info (Michael Perez)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Icon (Michael Silvius)
5. 07:29 AM - Re: Need contact info (Ryan Mueller)
6. 07:48 AM - Re: Need contact info (Michael Perez)
7. 08:51 AM - Photo set for RC Model? (Antoni Vidal)
8. 10:14 AM - Piet article (Brian Kraut)
9. 10:18 AM - Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Perez)
10. 10:33 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com)
11. 11:21 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Perez)
12. 11:39 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (PatrickW)
13. 11:41 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com)
14. 12:27 PM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (TOM STINEMETZE)
15. 12:31 PM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Silvius)
16. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Rick Holland)
17. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Perez)
18. 03:47 PM - corvair engines (TGSTONE236@aol.com)
19. 03:58 PM - Aluminum in place of metal fittings (Michael Perez)
20. 04:52 PM - Re: Aluminum in place of metal fittings (HelsperSew@aol.com)
21. 09:29 PM - Re: Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Jim Ash)
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Neat airplane! Any word on how much one of these Icon aircraft will cost? Not to
be a nay-sayer, but I'll bet at least 10 times what my Piet will end up costing
in the end...
See you all this weekend!
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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Fred,
>From the website, they are taking orders, and the standard model is $139,000
(or approximately 10 Piets).
BC
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Neat airplane! Any word on how much one of these Icon aircraft will cost?
Not to be a nay-sayer, but I'll bet at least 10 times what my Piet will end
up costing in the end...
Fred B.
La Crosse, W
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| Subject: | Need contact info |
I just watched an EAA video titled "First Flight in Your Home Built Aircraf
t." At about 6:42 there is a man which I believe is Mr. Terry Schubert. (Ho
pe I got the spelling...) I was in an Aviation Ground School class-he tou
ght in high school and had the honor of flying in his Long EZ. If anyone ca
n get me in touch with him, It would be greatly appriciated!
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A slick presentation composed mostly of drawings of the plane pasted on
photos.
The plane only flew for the first time on July 15th. It is not what I
would call a proven product and 139 big ones is not exactly chump change
at least for most of us.
I'd doubt the whole outfit will be around 10 years from now.
If that's the type of plane I'd want I'd seriously consider the Volmer
VJ-22. The design has been around for quite a while and there a whole
bunch of them flying as a testament to what works and what don't.
http://www.volmeraircraft.com/
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
From the website, they are taking orders, and the standard model is
$139,000 (or approximately 10 Piets).
BC
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| Subject: | Re: Need contact info |
Michael,
A little poking around led to this contact info, all coming from the FAA N
number registry, the EZ Squadron website, and an EAA webpage.
Terry Schubert
9283 Lindbergh Blvd
Olmsted Falls, OH 44138-2407
440-826-3055
jschuber@juno.com
Between the address, phone, and email, one method is bound to get you in
touch with him. Good luck,
Ryan
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> I just watched an EAA video titled "First Flight in Your Home Built
> Aircraft." At about 6:42 there is a man which I believe is Mr. Terry
> Schubert. (Hope I got the spelling...) I was in an Aviation Ground School
> class he tought in high school and had the honor of flying in his Long EZ.
> If anyone can get me in touch with him, It would be greatly appriciated!
>
> **
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need contact info |
Thank you Ryan. Greatly appriciated.
--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need contact info
Michael,
A little poking around led to this contact info, all coming from the FAA N
number registry, the EZ Squadron website, and an EAA webpage.
Terry Schubert
9283 Lindbergh Blvd
Olmsted Falls, OH 44138-2407
440-826-3055
jschuber@juno.com
Between the address, phone, and email, one method is bound to get you in to
uch with him. Good luck,
Ryan
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> w
rote:
I just watched an EAA video titled "First Flight in Your Home Built Aircraf
t." At about 6:42 there is a man which I believe is Mr. Terry Schubert. (Ho
pe I got the spelling...) I was in an Aviation Ground School class-he tou
ght in high school and had the honor of flying in his Long EZ. If anyone ca
n get me in touch with him, It would be greatly appriciated!
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| Subject: | Photo set for RC Model? |
Best regards from Mallorca.
My intention is to build a 1 / 3 or 1 / 2, 4 scale model of a Aircamper to
compete in international championships of radio controled models F4C
At the moment I am gathering documentation, I need to make a replica of a
real plane in particular. That is why I speak to you.
Some of the owners of a finish aircamper, can give the maximum of pictures
of his plane?
Thanks
Antoni Vidal Nadal
Manacor
Mallorca
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Good article on the Piet in AMT magazine this month. Starts on page 48.
http://amtonline.epubxpress.com/
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Where to look-- Corvair |
If I can't find a Corvair engine locally, where is a good source to find a complete,
ready to convert engine?
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
Where you are from country boy? J/K! I recently saw someone in NC had
engine(s) for sale....gimme a while and I'll try to remember the source....
Boyce
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
I never said I LOOKED yet, just wondering where there are some good leads..
.
--- On Wed, 7/23/08, RAMPEYBOY@aol.com <RAMPEYBOY@aol.com> wrote:
From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com <RAMPEYBOY@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair
----Where you are from country boy? J/K! I recently saw someone in
NC had engine(s) for sale....gimme a while and I'll try to remember the sou
rce....
Boyce
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
I found mine by asking around at an EAA meeting. One of the guys remembered a
junkyard a couple hours away that had some Corvairs, and I was able to find my
core there.
I also joined a local Corsa Chapter that provided some leads. Other ideas would
be to ask local auto mechanics if they have any ideas on where to find one.
Maybe put a "wanted" ad in a local paper. There's craigslist.org too.
Don't give up searching - the hunt is kinda fun! Take your camera so you can take
pictures if it's still in a car someplace.
Once I started looking I had a couple leads, and ended up grabbing a 1967 core.
Patrick
http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/PatsCorvairEngine
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194573#194573
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
Well most people advise to check with your local Corvair chapter. That may
be an OK option. I have spotted a couple possible engine donors in a junk yard
here in SC. Honestly I have been keeping the info under my hat, as I planned
to buy them myself...but never have come up with the spare change. They were
a bit pricey last time I asked. Seems like $300 each, but I think that was
with him pulling them, which is easily worth $150 to me (versus laying in the
dirt in the SC heat!).Good luck!
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
I found my Corvair core by searching the internet for the nearest
chapter of CORSA. (Corvair Owners of America)
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
>>> speedbrake@sbcglobal.net 7/23/2008 12:14 PM >>>
If I can't find a Corvair engine locally, where is a good source to
find a complete, ready to convert engine?
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
Here's one that Milt Atkinson posted to this list a few days ago:
I am now going to have to abandon the Corvair powered Pietenpol project
and am willing to part with the things I have accumulated.
1.. I have:
2.. 1) The GM Green Manual
3.. 2) The "How to keep your Corvair Alive" book
4.. 3) 8409 crank turned .010 under, polished and tapped for the WW
safety shaft
5.. 4) The WW safety shaft
6.. 5) Folded fin oil cooler
7.. 6) 3 engine cases
8.. 7) Cylinder jugs in very good shape . could be reconditioned or
used for cores
9.. 8) 2 sets of cast iron exhaust logs
10.. 9) 2 sets of rods that were going to be used for exchange with
Clarks
11.. 10) New C8800 cam with stock gear and washer installed
12.. 11) Set of new Clevite 77 .010 main bearing
13.. 12) Set of recommended heads . no work done on the heads
14.. 13) Harmonic balancer that was going to be used for a Clarks core
15.. 14) Front plate cut from a automatic trans bell housing
16.. 15) Several other misc engine parts . just ask
17.. 16) Complete set of Pietenpol plans for the 3 piece wing and
extended fuse
Anyone interested can make a reasonable offer for any or all. I am
located in the Dallas\Ft Worth area and can be reached either via email
miltatkinson@verizon.net or cell phone 214-762-8181
also:
If you sign up for the Corvair mail list there is someone who usualy
post daly classifieds listings on Corvair engines for sale found through
his automated nation wide Craigslist search
http://www.krnet.org/corvaircraft_inst.html
and:
http://mylist.net/listinfo/CorvAircraft
you can seach the recent postings at:
http://mylist.net/archives/corvaircraft/
Lot of goodies on Ebay as well.
MIchael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
If I can't find a Corvair engine locally, where is a good source
to find a complete, ready to convert engine?
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
I just called a few local junkyards and got lucky. Pulling the engine
yourself can be fun (just bring a floor jack), you meet some real
interesting (strange) people at a junkyard.
Rick
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:37 PM, PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I found mine by asking around at an EAA meeting. One of the guys
> remembered a junkyard a couple hours away that had some Corvairs, and I was
> able to find my core there.
>
> I also joined a local Corsa Chapter that provided some leads. Other ideas
> would be to ask local auto mechanics if they have any ideas on where to find
> one. Maybe put a "wanted" ad in a local paper. There's craigslist.orgtoo.
>
> Don't give up searching - the hunt is kinda fun! Take your camera so you
> can take pictures if it's still in a car someplace.
>
> Once I started looking I had a couple leads, and ended up grabbing a 1967
> core.
>
> Patrick
> http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/PatsCorvairEngine
>
> --------
> Patrick
> 601XL/Corvair
> N63PZ (reserved)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194573#194573
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
Understood on the Corvair. Thanks for the responces. Everyone seems to be i
n agreement...check local junk/wrecker places, ads in paper, then the- Co
rvair chapters near by.- That is what I had figured...just wanted to ask
and see if anyone had other ideas not thought of.
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I got my motor from Barry Owens , paid $300 and he put it in my SUV for
me.. I am willing to bet he
336-250-0966
Lexington ,NC
has at least 50 motors that I saw there.
Ted Stone
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| Subject: | Aluminum in place of metal fittings |
I just got my plans today from the Pietenpol family. As I glanced over them quickly,
I see the fittings involved with the 3 piece wing, wing struts, control
bell cranks, etc. I wonder if it would be safe to make some, if not all of these,
from aluminum. I am thinking of machining some of these from .125", T-6061.
The fittings to move the rudder, ailerons, etc., I wonder if, say 3/8" T-6061
would work...machined from a single slab and maybe even fitted with ball bearings
where the control wires connect. Just some thoughts. I have the machines
and material readily available. Any ideas? Anyone do this before?
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum in place of metal fittings |
Sounds complicated. Why don't you just stick to the plans? Can't go wrong.
Has been tested many times over. There will be many opportunities to customize
other parts of your airplane along the way.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Where to look-- Corvair |
Make sure when you find one it's the engine you want, which is a late ('65 - '69)
110hp. Chevy made a number of different engines for Corvairs and some of them
you really don't want. Do your homework before you buy.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 23, 2008 3:42 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to look-- Corvair
>
>I just called a few local junkyards and got lucky. Pulling the engine
>yourself can be fun (just bring a floor jack), you meet some real
>interesting (strange) people at a junkyard.
>
>Rick
>
>On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:37 PM, PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I found mine by asking around at an EAA meeting. One of the guys
>> remembered a junkyard a couple hours away that had some Corvairs, and I was
>> able to find my core there.
>>
>> I also joined a local Corsa Chapter that provided some leads. Other ideas
>> would be to ask local auto mechanics if they have any ideas on where to find
>> one. Maybe put a "wanted" ad in a local paper. There's craigslist.orgtoo.
>>
>> Don't give up searching - the hunt is kinda fun! Take your camera so you
>> can take pictures if it's still in a car someplace.
>>
>> Once I started looking I had a couple leads, and ended up grabbing a 1967
>> core.
>>
>> Patrick
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/PatsCorvairEngine
>>
>> --------
>> Patrick
>> 601XL/Corvair
>> N63PZ (reserved)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194573#194573
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Rick Holland
>Castle Rock, Colorado
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