---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/23/08: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:34 AM - Icon (tbyh@aol.com) 2. 05:54 AM - Re: Icon (Bill Church) 3. 06:15 AM - Need contact info (Michael Perez) 4. 07:08 AM - Re: Icon (Michael Silvius) 5. 07:29 AM - Re: Need contact info (Ryan Mueller) 6. 07:48 AM - Re: Need contact info (Michael Perez) 7. 08:51 AM - Photo set for RC Model? (Antoni Vidal) 8. 10:14 AM - Piet article (Brian Kraut) 9. 10:18 AM - Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Perez) 10. 10:33 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 11. 11:21 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Perez) 12. 11:39 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (PatrickW) 13. 11:41 AM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 14. 12:27 PM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (TOM STINEMETZE) 15. 12:31 PM - Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Silvius) 16. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Rick Holland) 17. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Michael Perez) 18. 03:47 PM - corvair engines (TGSTONE236@aol.com) 19. 03:58 PM - Aluminum in place of metal fittings (Michael Perez) 20. 04:52 PM - Re: Aluminum in place of metal fittings (HelsperSew@aol.com) 21. 09:29 PM - Re: Re: Where to look-- Corvair (Jim Ash) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Icon From: tbyh@aol.com Neat airplane! Any word on how much one of these Icon aircraft will cost? Not to be a nay-sayer, but I'll bet at least 10 times what my Piet will end up costing in the end... See you all this weekend! Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:27 AM PST US From: "Bill Church" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Icon Fred, >From the website, they are taking orders, and the standard model is $139,000 (or approximately 10 Piets). BC _____ Neat airplane! Any word on how much one of these Icon aircraft will cost? Not to be a nay-sayer, but I'll bet at least 10 times what my Piet will end up costing in the end... Fred B. La Crosse, W ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:12 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need contact info I just watched an EAA video titled "First Flight in Your Home Built Aircraf t." At about 6:42 there is a man which I believe is Mr. Terry Schubert. (Ho pe I got the spelling...) I was in an Aviation Ground School class-he tou ght in high school and had the honor of flying in his Long EZ. If anyone ca n get me in touch with him, It would be greatly appriciated! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:10 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Icon A slick presentation composed mostly of drawings of the plane pasted on photos. The plane only flew for the first time on July 15th. It is not what I would call a proven product and 139 big ones is not exactly chump change at least for most of us. I'd doubt the whole outfit will be around 10 years from now. If that's the type of plane I'd want I'd seriously consider the Volmer VJ-22. The design has been around for quite a while and there a whole bunch of them flying as a testament to what works and what don't. http://www.volmeraircraft.com/ Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Church From the website, they are taking orders, and the standard model is $139,000 (or approximately 10 Piets). BC ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:30 AM PST US From: "Ryan Mueller" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need contact info Michael, A little poking around led to this contact info, all coming from the FAA N number registry, the EZ Squadron website, and an EAA webpage. Terry Schubert 9283 Lindbergh Blvd Olmsted Falls, OH 44138-2407 440-826-3055 jschuber@juno.com Between the address, phone, and email, one method is bound to get you in touch with him. Good luck, Ryan On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > I just watched an EAA video titled "First Flight in Your Home Built > Aircraft." At about 6:42 there is a man which I believe is Mr. Terry > Schubert. (Hope I got the spelling...) I was in an Aviation Ground School > class he tought in high school and had the honor of flying in his Long EZ. > If anyone can get me in touch with him, It would be greatly appriciated! > > ** > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:00 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need contact info Thank you Ryan. Greatly appriciated. --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ryan Mueller wrote: From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need contact info Michael, A little poking around led to this contact info, all coming from the FAA N number registry, the EZ Squadron website, and an EAA webpage. Terry Schubert 9283 Lindbergh Blvd Olmsted Falls, OH 44138-2407 440-826-3055 jschuber@juno.com Between the address, phone, and email, one method is bound to get you in to uch with him. Good luck, Ryan On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Michael Perez w rote: I just watched an EAA video titled "First Flight in Your Home Built Aircraf t." At about 6:42 there is a man which I believe is Mr. Terry Schubert. (Ho pe I got the spelling...) I was in an Aviation Ground School class-he tou ght in high school and had the honor of flying in his Long EZ. If anyone ca n get me in touch with him, It would be greatly appriciated! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:58 AM PST US From: "Antoni Vidal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Photo set for RC Model? Best regards from Mallorca. My intention is to build a 1 / 3 or 1 / 2, 4 scale model of a Aircamper to compete in international championships of radio controled models F4C At the moment I am gathering documentation, I need to make a replica of a real plane in particular. That is why I speak to you. Some of the owners of a finish aircamper, can give the maximum of pictures of his plane? Thanks Antoni Vidal Nadal Manacor Mallorca ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:44 AM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet article Good article on the Piet in AMT magazine this month. Starts on page 48. http://amtonline.epubxpress.com/ Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:23 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair If I can't find a Corvair engine locally, where is a good source to find a complete, ready to convert engine? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:43 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair Where you are from country boy? J/K! I recently saw someone in NC had engine(s) for sale....gimme a while and I'll try to remember the source.... Boyce **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:26 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair I never said I LOOKED yet, just wondering where there are some good leads.. .. --- On Wed, 7/23/08, RAMPEYBOY@aol.com wrote: From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair ----Where you are from country boy? J/K! I recently saw someone in NC had engine(s) for sale....gimme a while and I'll try to remember the sou rce.... Boyce Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy F ootball today. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to look-- Corvair From: "PatrickW" I found mine by asking around at an EAA meeting. One of the guys remembered a junkyard a couple hours away that had some Corvairs, and I was able to find my core there. I also joined a local Corsa Chapter that provided some leads. Other ideas would be to ask local auto mechanics if they have any ideas on where to find one. Maybe put a "wanted" ad in a local paper. There's craigslist.org too. Don't give up searching - the hunt is kinda fun! Take your camera so you can take pictures if it's still in a car someplace. Once I started looking I had a couple leads, and ended up grabbing a 1967 core. Patrick http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/PatsCorvairEngine -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194573#194573 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:13 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair Well most people advise to check with your local Corvair chapter. That may be an OK option. I have spotted a couple possible engine donors in a junk yard here in SC. Honestly I have been keeping the info under my hat, as I planned to buy them myself...but never have come up with the spare change. They were a bit pricey last time I asked. Seems like $300 each, but I think that was with him pulling them, which is easily worth $150 to me (versus laying in the dirt in the SC heat!).Good luck! Boyce **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:27:07 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair I found my Corvair core by searching the internet for the nearest chapter of CORSA. (Corvair Owners of America) Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. >>> speedbrake@sbcglobal.net 7/23/2008 12:14 PM >>> If I can't find a Corvair engine locally, where is a good source to find a complete, ready to convert engine? ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:31:47 PM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to look-- Corvair Here's one that Milt Atkinson posted to this list a few days ago: I am now going to have to abandon the Corvair powered Pietenpol project and am willing to part with the things I have accumulated. 1.. I have: 2.. 1) The GM Green Manual 3.. 2) The "How to keep your Corvair Alive" book 4.. 3) 8409 crank turned .010 under, polished and tapped for the WW safety shaft 5.. 4) The WW safety shaft 6.. 5) Folded fin oil cooler 7.. 6) 3 engine cases 8.. 7) Cylinder jugs in very good shape . could be reconditioned or used for cores 9.. 8) 2 sets of cast iron exhaust logs 10.. 9) 2 sets of rods that were going to be used for exchange with Clarks 11.. 10) New C8800 cam with stock gear and washer installed 12.. 11) Set of new Clevite 77 .010 main bearing 13.. 12) Set of recommended heads . no work done on the heads 14.. 13) Harmonic balancer that was going to be used for a Clarks core 15.. 14) Front plate cut from a automatic trans bell housing 16.. 15) Several other misc engine parts . just ask 17.. 16) Complete set of Pietenpol plans for the 3 piece wing and extended fuse Anyone interested can make a reasonable offer for any or all. I am located in the Dallas\Ft Worth area and can be reached either via email miltatkinson@verizon.net or cell phone 214-762-8181 also: If you sign up for the Corvair mail list there is someone who usualy post daly classifieds listings on Corvair engines for sale found through his automated nation wide Craigslist search http://www.krnet.org/corvaircraft_inst.html and: http://mylist.net/listinfo/CorvAircraft you can seach the recent postings at: http://mylist.net/archives/corvaircraft/ Lot of goodies on Ebay as well. MIchael in Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Perez If I can't find a Corvair engine locally, where is a good source to find a complete, ready to convert engine? ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:44:43 PM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to look-- Corvair I just called a few local junkyards and got lucky. Pulling the engine yourself can be fun (just bring a floor jack), you meet some real interesting (strange) people at a junkyard. Rick On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:37 PM, PatrickW wrote: > > I found mine by asking around at an EAA meeting. One of the guys > remembered a junkyard a couple hours away that had some Corvairs, and I was > able to find my core there. > > I also joined a local Corsa Chapter that provided some leads. Other ideas > would be to ask local auto mechanics if they have any ideas on where to find > one. Maybe put a "wanted" ad in a local paper. There's craigslist.orgtoo. > > Don't give up searching - the hunt is kinda fun! Take your camera so you > can take pictures if it's still in a car someplace. > > Once I started looking I had a couple leads, and ended up grabbing a 1967 > core. > > Patrick > http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/PatsCorvairEngine > > -------- > Patrick > 601XL/Corvair > N63PZ (reserved) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194573#194573 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:05 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to look-- Corvair Understood on the Corvair. Thanks for the responces. Everyone seems to be i n agreement...check local junk/wrecker places, ads in paper, then the- Co rvair chapters near by.- That is what I had figured...just wanted to ask and see if anyone had other ideas not thought of. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:02 PM PST US From: TGSTONE236@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair engines I got my motor from Barry Owens , paid $300 and he put it in my SUV for me.. I am willing to bet he 336-250-0966 Lexington ,NC has at least 50 motors that I saw there. Ted Stone **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:58:38 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum in place of metal fittings I just got my plans today from the Pietenpol family. As I glanced over them quickly, I see the fittings involved with the 3 piece wing, wing struts, control bell cranks, etc. I wonder if it would be safe to make some, if not all of these, from aluminum. I am thinking of machining some of these from .125", T-6061. The fittings to move the rudder, ailerons, etc., I wonder if, say 3/8" T-6061 would work...machined from a single slab and maybe even fitted with ball bearings where the control wires connect. Just some thoughts. I have the machines and material readily available. Any ideas? Anyone do this before? ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:51 PM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum in place of metal fittings Sounds complicated. Why don't you just stick to the plans? Can't go wrong. Has been tested many times over. There will be many opportunities to customize other parts of your airplane along the way. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:19 PM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to look-- Corvair Make sure when you find one it's the engine you want, which is a late ('65 - '69) 110hp. Chevy made a number of different engines for Corvairs and some of them you really don't want. Do your homework before you buy. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Holland >Sent: Jul 23, 2008 3:42 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to look-- Corvair > >I just called a few local junkyards and got lucky. Pulling the engine >yourself can be fun (just bring a floor jack), you meet some real >interesting (strange) people at a junkyard. > >Rick > >On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:37 PM, PatrickW wrote: > >> >> I found mine by asking around at an EAA meeting. One of the guys >> remembered a junkyard a couple hours away that had some Corvairs, and I was >> able to find my core there. >> >> I also joined a local Corsa Chapter that provided some leads. Other ideas >> would be to ask local auto mechanics if they have any ideas on where to find >> one. Maybe put a "wanted" ad in a local paper. There's craigslist.orgtoo. >> >> Don't give up searching - the hunt is kinda fun! Take your camera so you >> can take pictures if it's still in a car someplace. >> >> Once I started looking I had a couple leads, and ended up grabbing a 1967 >> core. >> >> Patrick >> http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/PatsCorvairEngine >> >> -------- >> Patrick >> 601XL/Corvair >> N63PZ (reserved) >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194573#194573 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Rick Holland >Castle Rock, Colorado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.