---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/25/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:17 AM - Riblett install (Michael Perez) 2. 06:54 AM - Re: Best movie flying scenes (Michael Silvius) 3. 09:22 AM - Re: Riblett install (Gary Boothe) 4. 10:04 AM - Re: Riblett install (Michael Perez) 5. 11:52 AM - Grand Rapids Technologies EIS (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 03:46 PM - project (skellytown flyer) 7. 06:48 PM - Re: Riblett install (Roman Bukolt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:25 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install Curious: what are the pros/cons, or if it is even worth considering, to making the Riblett design wing ribs and leave the rest as per the Pietenpol plans. Make the Riblett ribs, then use the Pietenpol plans to make the wing, mount the fittings, place on plane , etc. Everything would be Pietnpol, except the wing ribs. What say you? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:12 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Best movie flying scenes One Six Right to play on PBS soon acording to AOPA news buletin http://www.terwilligerproductions.com/onesixright/officialsite/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:50 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install Michael, I have not seen the "Riblett" design, so cannot comment on that. I will say, though, that making ribs according to BHP is not difficult, though somewhat tedious. To break the tedium, I simply have a board set aside with the rib template and work in ribs in conjunction with everything else. At my present rate it will probably take about a year to complete the ribs, while completing tail and fuselage. The scraps of mahogany plywood from fuselage construction work great to make into gussets! Happy Building, Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (10 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install Curious: what are the pros/cons, or if it is even worth considering, to making the Riblett design wing ribs and leave the rest as per the Pietenpol plans. Make the Riblett ribs, then use the Pietenpol plans to make the wing, mount the fittings, place on plane , etc. Everything would be Pietnpol, except the wing ribs. What say you? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:41 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install I am interested in what I have heard about the Riblett design. I am not con cerned with making ribs of any kind...They do not seem difficult at all.- IF and I say IF, I can get a performance edge with JUST a rib change, this is what I want to do. However, I have also heard that there maybe some othe r mods needed to be done once you do incorperate the Riblett ribs. If the r ipple effect becomes too much of a problem...I end up making lots of change s to use them, I will go with the stock ribs. I hope to hear if I can just change the ribs...everything else stays as drawn on the BHP plans. (locatio ns of fittings, rib spacing, wing length, mounting to fuse., etc. --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Gary Boothe wrote: From: Gary Boothe Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install Michael, - I have not seen the =93Riblett=94 design, so cannot comment on that. I will say, though, that making ribs according to BHP is not difficult, though so mewhat tedious. To break the tedium, I simply have a board set aside with t he rib template and work in ribs in conjunction with everything else. At my present rate it will probably take about a year to complete the ribs, whil e completing tail and fuselage. The scraps of mahogany plywood from fuselag e construction work great to make into gussets! - Happy Building, Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (10 ribs down=85) From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install - Curious: what are the pros/cons, or if it is even worth considering, to mak ing the Riblett design wing ribs and leave the rest as per the Pietenpol pl ans. Make the Riblett ribs, then use the Pietenpol plans to make the wing, mount the fittings, place on plane , etc. Everything would be Pietnpol, exc ept the wing ribs. What say you? - -http://www.matronics.com/contributi on - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:22 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Grand Rapids Technologies EIS Howdy, Pieters; This from Raymond Hanover, who bought DJ Vegh's GN-1 project and is looking to sell or trade the Grand Rapids unit that is in it: >seriously would consider swapping for real instruments if you hear of anyone that wants an EIS system. >my cell phone number is 806 663-1822 and house is 806 848-2838 .or they can E-mail me rhano@att.net DJ's website is still up and active and you can see all his construction progress photos, but the page that shows the EIS is here: http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/09-01-04.htm Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:44 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: project From: "skellytown flyer" i have been off the list as far as posting after changing e-mail servers but maybe this will work.I am trying to get moving again on the project I bought from D.J. last year.I just pulled the Corvair engine from the mount this afternoon and decided to weigh it before moving it out of the way while I work on the fuselage.if I was seeing the scales right-( they were pretty well covered up with the base I set it on) but including the 15# for the wood base I made to sit it on it looked like 240# so that would be about 225# without it.and that didn't include the carb and tubing left hanging on the firewall,the starter or the exhaust stacks i removed,prop and bolts etc. does this sound reasonable? I sure would like to get this plane flying in the next year.but I am not real fond of the EIS unit in the panel.I know they are not cheap but seems to me that a couple of steam gages would look a lot more natural in a Piet.-well a GN-1 anyway.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194962#194962 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:33 PM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install The ONLY change you make in the wing from the Pietenpol plan is that because the rib is deeper (thicker chord) you may want to put a filler block above the spar to fill in the space between the spar and the top rib strip. Everything else is unchanged. all your fittings, aileron hinges, cabane attach plate, everything else is the same. There's a lot of people out there who Think they know what they're talking about and you have to "separate the wheat from the chaff". On Jul 25, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Michael Perez wrote: > I am interested in what I have heard about the Riblett design. I am > not concerned with making ribs of any kind...They do not seem > difficult at all. IF and I say IF, I can get a performance edge with > JUST a rib change, this is what I want to do. However, I have also > heard that there maybe some other mods needed to be done once you do > incorperate the Riblett ribs. If the ripple effect becomes too much > of a problem...I end up making lots of changes to use them, I will > go with the stock ribs. I hope to hear if I can just change the > ribs...everything else stays as drawn on the BHP plans. (locations > of fittings, rib spacing, wing length, mounting to fuse., etc. > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Gary Boothe wrote: > From: Gary Boothe > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:19 PM > > Michael, > > > I have not seen the =93Riblett=94 design, so cannot comment on that. I > will say, though, that making ribs according to BHP is not > difficult, though somewhat tedious. To break the tedium, I simply > have a board set aside with the rib template and work in ribs in > conjunction with everything else. At my present rate it will > probably take about a year to complete the ribs, while completing > tail and fuselage. The scraps of mahogany plywood from fuselage > construction work great to make into gussets! > > > Happy Building, > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion > Tail done, working on fuselage > (10 ribs down=85) > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Michael Perez > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:15 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install > > > Curious: what are the pros/cons, or if it is even worth considering, > to making the Riblett design wing ribs and leave the rest as per the > Pietenpol plans. Make the Riblett ribs, then use the Pietenpol plans > to make the wing, mount the fittings, place on plane , etc. > Everything would be Pietnpol, except the wing ribs. 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