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1. 12:14 AM - Re: Riblett install (carson)
2. 01:46 AM - Re: Re: Riblett install (Clif Dawson)
3. 04:38 AM - Re: Re: Riblett install (Roman Bukolt)
4. 06:30 AM - Waldo Pepper - One More Time (Tim Verthein)
5. 07:43 AM - Possibly Looking for a construction partner (Kip and Beth Gardner)
6. 04:01 PM - Re: Riblett install (Michael Perez)
7. 06:44 PM - Corvair engine (skellytown flyer)
8. 08:22 PM - Re: Corvair engine (mr-fix-all)
9. 08:48 PM - Re: Waldo Pepper - One More Time (Roman Bukolt)
10. 10:22 PM - First flight in a Piet (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
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| Subject: | Re: Riblett install |
Hi all
Thats an interesting point that you make about the blocks on to of the spars
I have built 32 of the Ribblett ribs and then not thinking went and ordered the
spar material from the cutting list I have, hence the spar material is to small
for my ribs,So I was planning to order some larger timber to make the spars
bigger.
Do you think that using blocks would be sufficient ?
Carson
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| Subject: | Re: Riblett install |
Personally I would take advantage of that extra height with
a taller spar to fit.
Clif
>
> Hi all
> Thats an interesting point that you make about the blocks on to of the
> spars
I was planning to order some larger timber to make the spars bigger.
> Do you think that using blocks would be sufficient ?
> Carson
>
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| Subject: | Re: Riblett install |
Considering the cost of Sitka spruce and adding 30 ft. of more wood
and its weight and considering I've never heard of a Pietenpol wing
folding, then unless you plan on doing some serious aerobatics, what's
the point? Do a beam load calculation. You'll be amazed at the load
that wing can support. And about weight, Bernard Pietenpol even
routed out his 1" spars to SAVE weight.
Plus your strut brackets will have to be extended and we're back to
modifying other parts just like Perez mentioned.
I'm going to go with the blocks.
Roman Bukolt NX20795
On Jul 26, 2008, at 2:11 AM, carson wrote:
> >
>
> Hi all
> Thats an interesting point that you make about the blocks on to of
> the spars
> I have built 32 of the Ribblett ribs and then not thinking went and
> ordered the spar material from the cutting list I have, hence the
> spar material is to small for my ribs,So I was planning to order
> some larger timber to make the spars bigger.
> Do you think that using blocks would be sufficient ?
> Carson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195022#195022
>
>
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| Subject: | Waldo Pepper - One More Time |
I haven't seen this movie since it was new in the theatre probably 30 years ago.
My quest to find a copy turned up nothing locally.
Then, it turns out my Mom had it on VHS. She actually wrote an article about it
25 years or so ago. Since my folks don't even HAVE a VHS player anymore, she
gave it to me.
I have dubbed it to DVD. If there is anyone on the list who hasn't seen the movie
who would like to I sell send a DVD to anyone who wants one for no charge
at all. Just don't expect any fancy packaging.
And yes, to those of you with scruples who worry about such things I'm sure this
is some horrid copyright violation. but since it's not available for purchase
new, used copies are hard to come by (and often expensive) and I really doubt
anyone at the studio, or any of the performers gets much for it when a used
copy changes hands at some insane collector price anyway, and heck, I'm offering
them FREE, I'm not gonna worry about it. If Mr. Redford would like to call
me and ask for his share, more power to him.
So, that's the offer. Probably best to e-mail me of list if you'd like one:
minoxphotographer@yahoo.com
Tim in Bovey
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| Subject: | Possibly Looking for a construction partner |
Hi,
It's been a long, long time since I've been on the list, but life is
making a turn for the better & I'm hoping to get back on my project
soon.
I've been thinking seriously about finding someone who wants to
partner with me on the project, partly as a way to offset cost,
partly as a way to keep motivated & moving forward, but mostly to
have someone to share the fun with & to make ownership of the
finished plane more affordable and worthwhile - I don't want the
plane to be a hangar queen because I can only fly it once a month or
so (I'll be on the road a fair amount with a new job).
No one in any of my local EAA chapters is interested - they either
have their own projects or aren't interested in building.
So, is there anyone out the who is also in the Akron, OH area that
might be interested? I live in North Canton, OH
Project status - fuselage (long version) & empennage woodwork mostly
done, glued with aerolite; metal gear fabricated by previous project
owner, but may need modification to have brakes; most wood needed to
finish project on hand - still need 2 spars. Corvair engine torn
down & rebuild started. Instruments purchased, most will need some
R&R. Cleveland wheels & brakes off of a C150, need R&R. Lots of
other misc. parts & raw materials. I'm doing most work in my
basement, but it's tight & I can't build the wings down there - no
way to get them out when done.
I have about $5500 in the plane & figure another $5-8000 to finish.
If anyone is interested, let me know.
Hope everyone who went is enjoying Brodhead!
Kip Gardner
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| Subject: | Re: Riblett install |
THAT is the kind of no non-sense type of answer I like. Hello Roman, I hope
my check made it to you by now?- Thanks for the info. You answered my qu
estion exactly...thanks.
--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Roman Bukolt <conceptmodels@tds.net> wrote:
From: Roman Bukolt <conceptmodels@tds.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install
The ONLY change you make in the wing from the Pietenpol plan is that becaus
e the rib is deeper (thicker chord) you may want to put a filler block abov
e the spar to fill in the space between the spar and the top rib strip. -
Everything else is unchanged. all your fittings, aileron hinges, cabane att
ach plate, everything else is the same. -There's a lot of people out ther
e who Think they know what they're talking about and you have to "separate
the wheat from the chaff".
On Jul 25, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Michael Perez wrote:
I am interested in what I have heard about the Riblett design. I am not con
cerned with making ribs of any kind...They do not seem difficult at all.-
IF and I say IF, I can get a performance edge with JUST a rib change, this
is what I want to do. However, I have also heard that there maybe some othe
r mods needed to be done once you do incorperate the Riblett ribs. If the r
ipple effect becomes too much of a problem...I end up making lots of change
s to use them, I will go with the stock ribs. I hope to hear if I can just
change the ribs...everything else stays as drawn on the BHP plans. (locatio
ns of fittings, rib spacing, wing length, mounting to fuse., etc.
--- On-Fri, 7/25/08, Gary Boothe-<gboothe@calply.com>-wrote:
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe@calply.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Riblett install
To:-pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Michael,
-
I have not seen the =93Riblett=94 design, so cannot comment on that. I will
say, though, that making ribs according to BHP is not difficult, though so
mewhat tedious. To break the tedium, I simply have a board set aside with t
he rib template and work in ribs in conjunction with everything else. At my
present rate it will probably take about a year to complete the ribs, whil
e completing tail and fuselage. The scraps of mahogany plywood from fuselag
e construction work great to make into gussets!
-
Happy Building,
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(10 ribs down=85)
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Sent:-Friday, July 25, 2008 6:15 AM
To:-pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject:-Pietenpol-List: Riblett install
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Curious: what are the pros/cons, or if it is even worth considering, to mak
ing the Riblett design wing ribs and leave the rest as per the Pietenpol pl
ans. Make the Riblett ribs, then use the Pietenpol plans to make the wing,
mount the fittings, place on plane , etc. Everything would be Pietnpol, exc
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I have a friend in Wyoming that has a Corvair engine he diss-assembled and cleaned
up and boxed up a while back.he also bought a Wynn manual to go with it.he
will never do anything with it I don't think and is interested in selling it.if
anyone is interested send me an E-mail and I will put you in touch with him.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engine |
Where in wyoming? my father in law travels out there from time to time and might
be able to pick it up if the price is right?
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"Be who you are and say what you think, those that mind don't matter, and
those that matter don't mind" Dr. Seuss
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| Subject: | Re: Waldo Pepper - One More Time |
I would love to get one.
Roman Bukolt
6505 Urich Ter.
Madison, wi.53719
On Jul 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Tim Verthein wrote:
> >
>
> I haven't seen this movie since it was new in the theatre probably
> 30 years ago. My quest to find a copy turned up nothing locally.
>
> Then, it turns out my Mom had it on VHS. She actually wrote an
> article about it 25 years or so ago. Since my folks don't even HAVE
> a VHS player anymore, she gave it to me.
>
> I have dubbed it to DVD. If there is anyone on the list who hasn't
> seen the movie who would like to I sell send a DVD to anyone who
> wants one for no charge at all. Just don't expect any fancy
> packaging.
>
> And yes, to those of you with scruples who worry about such things
> I'm sure this is some horrid copyright violation. but since it's
> not available for purchase new, used copies are hard to come by (and
> often expensive) and I really doubt anyone at the studio, or any of
> the performers gets much for it when a used copy changes hands at
> some insane collector price anyway, and heck, I'm offering them
> FREE, I'm not gonna worry about it. If Mr. Redford would like to
> call me and ask for his share, more power to him.
>
> So, that's the offer. Probably best to e-mail me of list if you'd
> like one:
>
> minoxphotographer@yahoo.com
>
> Tim in Bovey
>
>
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| Subject: | First flight in a Piet |
YaHoo, I took my first flight in a Pietenpol. I cannot thank Oscar Zuniga enough.
I am sold. I hope that I can convince the Household Six to let me get an aircamper.
Probably a few years in the future.
Oscar took me up and I was very impressed by the performance. It seemed to outclimb
my friends Aeronca Champ with the same 65 horse engine, even with my 204
LB carcass wedged aboard at 90+ degrees. . It handled quite well considering I
was wedged in the front cockpit. It is certainly a blast to fly. I am sold. The
Perfect plane to indulge one's passion for flying for fun.
Oscar did a great landing considering the wind was whipping from straight down
the runway to 90 degrees. I esd impressed.
Again, Many thanks to Oscar.
Blue Skies and Bright Eyes
Steve D
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