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1. 04:41 AM - Re: Safe, Successful journy (gcardinal)
2. 05:08 AM - Re: Waldo Pepper (Ron Franck)
3. 05:36 AM - Bummer (tbyh@aol.com)
4. 05:41 AM - new ford motor (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 04:16 PM - I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! (Marc Davis)
6. 04:34 PM - wing struts (Marc Davis)
7. 05:09 PM - Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
8. 06:01 PM - Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! (Gene & Tammy)
9. 07:01 PM - Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! (Chet's Mail)
10. 10:57 PM - Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! (Marc Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: Safe, Successful journy |
Well done, Shad!
I enjoyed our brief formation flight. Hopefully next year we can do it
again with passengers and cameras for some good air-to-air footage.
Dick Navratil and I made it home around 3:00pm to the Minneapolis area.
Cheers!
Greg Cardinal
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From: shad bell
To: Pietenpol Discussion
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Safe, Successful journy
Hello Guys, and Gals,
N92GB made it 432 miles to Brodhead, and 432 miles back from
Brodhead with out a hitch. Tailwinds graced us on the way home and cut
about an hour off the trip home. Thank you for the inspiration
throughout the past Brodhead fly-ins, when all we did was watch Piets
fly. I was able to give a couple rides at Brodhead but due to aging
bungees wasn't able to give rides to "average weight" adults.
Wife is calling, and I have been gone for 4 days,
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Waldo Pepper |
I've got a new, unopened DVD of "The Great Waldo Pepper" that I'm willing
to trade for a completed and flying Pietenpol.
If I get multiple offers I'll consider the Piet with the better engine
installation.
OK, before anybody flames me, this is just a little tongue-in-cheek, but I
do have a new, unopened copy on DVD. Just for kicks, I checked ebay and
found this listing: 120255960384
The guy wants $125.00 for a used DVD. I about fell out of my chair. I
better put my copy inside a fireproof safe!
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My oldest son and I headed out at 5:00 a.m. sharp (from La Crosse) this past Saturday
morning headed for Brodhead for the day. Just as we were going by?Wisconsin
Dells about 6:30 a.m.the truck started acting up and then it just plain died
-- the alternator went kablooey! Of course, no parts house anywhere around
had an alternator on hand for a '98 Nissan Frontier. So, the garage we found
charged the battery to the max and we turned around and went home (I suppose we
could have gone on to Brodhead, but coming home at night would have required
lights and the battery just wouldn't have made that.)
Tonight I am installing a new alternator?(found one at the Autozone in Winona,
MN, and since the wife and I were going to Rochester MN Sunday afternoon we swung
through and picked it up). Anyway, what an absolute ?bummer, especially for
my son Billy who has never been to Brodhead for the Piet reunion. All afternoon
as I was removing the old alternator I thought about the fly-bys and activity
and workshops, and at supper time I thought about you all enjoying the pork
chops together. Torture!
Well, there's always next year.?I hope those of you who were there had a terrific
time and will post some pics and reports soon!?
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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Ken Perkins was talking about a new model A motor being made in a small run.
Does anybody have info or a link about that?
It was great to see you all!
Douwe
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| Subject: | I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! |
Hello All
Well I've had the plans for some time and followed the list off and on but
=2C a piet came for sale on
craigslist and I had to jump.
Here are a few photos of it. http://picasaweb.google.com/sandy.n.marc/Piet
enpol
It has two problems (at least) The tail wheel was poorly installed and I t
hink the two lower longerons are broken.
The plane had a corvair at first and later had a a65 installed. With the a
65 it was VERY aft CG. The elevator was about 50% deflected in level fligh
t and that way with 50 lbs of lead bolted to the engine mount.
I don't know what the fuselage length is but I will measure tonight. I ass
ume I will have to build a longer motor mount.
Once I have the tail uncovered I will be looking for suggestions un how to
improve things.
I am not buying the motor or prop with the plane because I have a couple a6
5's already.
I'll have more photos and more questions later
Marc
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One question right off the bat. The wing strut fittings seem to built to p
lans but....
It seems like a strange design. In compression the strut ends sort of kink
sideways in the strut.
Are people flying with this arrangement? I see come are using he aluminum
strut material.
Marc
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| Subject: | Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! |
Congrats on your find and purchase
John
In a message dated 7/28/2008 7:17:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
marcs_listreading@hotmail.com writes:
Hello All
Well I've had the plans for some time and followed the list off and on but,
a piet came for sale on
craigslist and I had to jump.
Here are a few photos of it.
_http://picasaweb.google.com/sandy.n.marc/Pietenpol_ (http://picasaweb.google.com/sandy.n.marc/Pietenpol)
It has two problems (at least) The tail wheel was poorly installed and I
think the two lower longerons are broken.
The plane had a corvair at first and later had a a65 installed. With the
a65 it was VERY aft CG. The elevator was about 50% deflected in level flight
and that way with 50 lbs of lead bolted to the engine mount.
I don't know what the fuselage length is but I will measure tonight. I
assume I will have to build a longer motor mount.
Once I have the tail uncovered I will be looking for suggestions un how to
improve things.
I am not buying the motor or prop with the plane because I have a couple
a65's already.
I'll have more photos and more questions later
Marc
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| Subject: | Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! |
Marc, moving the wing aft may be a better way to go rather than a longer
motor mount. Worked very well for me. I would suggest you take a deep
breath and don't do anything for a while. Once you have itemized what
you want to do I would put it out on this list for dicussion. So much
knowledge here. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Just my thoughts
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Davis
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo!
Hello All
Well I've had the plans for some time and followed the list off and on
but, a piet came for sale on
craigslist and I had to jump.
Here are a few photos of it.
http://picasaweb.google.com/sandy.n.marc/Pietenpol
It has two problems (at least) The tail wheel was poorly installed
and I think the two lower longerons are broken.
The plane had a corvair at first and later had a a65 installed. With
the a65 it was VERY aft CG. The elevator was about 50% deflected in
level flight and that way with 50 lbs of lead bolted to the engine
mount.
I don't know what the fuselage length is but I will measure tonight.
I assume I will have to build a longer motor mount.
Once I have the tail uncovered I will be looking for suggestions un
how to improve things.
I am not buying the motor or prop with the plane because I have a
couple a65's already.
I'll have more photos and more questions later
Marc
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| Subject: | Re: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! |
Marc,
Is the engine still for sale I would be interested in it.
Chet
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| Subject: | I just bought a Piet. Wahoo! |
I thought about moving the wing=2C and may do it. It would make it harder
for me to get in and out of the plane.
I did measure the Fuselage length and I have the short fuselage (Improved 1
933 plans=2C and 161 and 1/4").
I see that Chuck Gantzer (http://nx770cg.com/) moved the engine forward whe
n faced with the same problem.
I'm planning to email him to see if him plane has problems recovering from
a slip as BHP is reported to have suggested.
Maybe I should put a 3 blade constant speed prop on to help balance the pla
ne. (just joking).
I also noticed that the both elevators are warped=2C so I will have to rebu
ild those. Much of the hardware on the plane is of the hardware store verit
y so that will have to be fixed. And the tail wires are a but odd so I'll h
ave to look at those. Hmmm.. Should be flying Wednesday.
Thanks
Marc
From: zharvey@bellsouth.netTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Pie
tenpol-List: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo!Date: Mon=2C 28 Jul 2008 19:58:23
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Marc=2C moving the wing aft may be a better way to go rather than a longer
motor mount. Worked very well for me. I would suggest you take a deep bre
ath and don't do anything for a while. Once you have itemized what you wan
t to do I would put it out on this list for discussion. So much knowledge
here. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Just my thoughts
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Davis
Sent: Monday=2C July 28=2C 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I just bought a Piet. Wahoo!
Hello All Well I've had the plans for some time and followed the list off a
nd on but=2C a piet came for sale on craigslist and I had to jump. Here are
a few photos of it. http://picasaweb.google.com/sandy.n.marc/Pietenpol It
has two problems (at least) The tail wheel was poorly installed and I thi
nk the two lower longerons are broken.The plane had a corvair at first and
later had a a65 installed. With the a65 it was VERY aft CG. The elevator
was about 50% deflected in level flight and that way with 50 lbs of lead bo
lted to the engine mount. I don't know what the fuselage length is but I
will measure tonight. I assume I will have to build a longer motor mount.O
nce I have the tail uncovered I will be looking for suggestions un how to i
mprove things. I am not buying the motor or prop with the plane because I
have a couple a65's already. I'll have more photos and more questions late
r Marc
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