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1. 07:57 AM - welding (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 08:29 AM - Re: my project ()
3. 08:58 AM - Re: my project (Ben Ramler)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: welding (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
5. 08:59 AM - Re: my project (Rick Holland)
6. 09:10 AM - Re: my project (walt)
7. 10:39 AM - Re: my project (Ben Ramler)
8. 11:26 AM - Re: my project (walt)
9. 06:07 PM - Piets in Hawaii (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
10. 07:55 PM - Re: Inspection holes (wing) (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
11. 09:39 PM - Re: Piets in Hawaii (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
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Thanks for the welding tips.
Bill, I am welding the flange on the top before attaching to the tank. I
think I may have gotten sloppy and let the flange move away from the sheet
as I tacked it.
Jake, great tip!! i had thought something like that might soak up the heat
but hadn't thought of such a clean solution.
Love this forum!!
Douwe
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Ben,
Why do you need to modify the wing rib jig? I thought the recommended method
of construction was to build the ailerons in-place and then cut them free.
As I understand it this helps the ailerons line up perfectly with the rest
of the wing. This would mean all the ribs are built the same.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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I wish I had an answer for you chris. This is just what my dad wants to do. Maybe
in his mind it might be easier not sure on that!
----- Original Message ----
From: "catdesigns@att.net" <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 10:26:11 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
Ben,
Why do you need to modify the wing rib jig? I thought the recommended method
of construction was to build the ailerons in-place and then cut them free.
As I understand it this helps the ailerons line up perfectly with the rest
of the wing. This would mean all the ribs are built the same.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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Douwe,
I would also avoid cutting the hole till your finished.
Jake
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Thanks for the welding tips.
Bill, I am welding the flange on the top before attaching to the tank. I
think I may have gotten sloppy and let the flange move away from the sheet
as I tacked it.
Jake, great tip!! i had thought something like that might soak up the heat
but hadn't thought of such a clean solution.
Love this forum!!
Douwe
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Correct, you build the ailerons as part of the wing and saw it out later,
makes aileron construction very easy.
Rick
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:26 AM, <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
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> Ben,
>
> Why do you need to modify the wing rib jig? I thought the recommended
> method of construction was to build the ailerons in-place and then cut them
> free. As I understand it this helps the ailerons line up perfectly with the
> rest of the wing. This would mean all the ribs are built the same.
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Ben,
Yeah, you build the whole wing, in one piece,,,then you glue in the airleron
spars, and when done, cut out the airleron. Works great.
PS I would trammel the wing before glueing in the airleron stuff and
cutting. This makes sure all is parallel.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
>
> Ben,
>
> Why do you need to modify the wing rib jig? I thought the recommended
> method of construction was to build the ailerons in-place and then cut
> them free. As I understand it this helps the ailerons line up perfectly
> with the rest of the wing. This would mean all the ribs are built the
> same.
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
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what do you mean by trammel the wing?
Ben in MN
----- Original Message ----
From: walt <waltdak@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 11:05:27 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
Ben,
Yeah, you build the whole wing, in one piece,,,then you glue in the airleron
spars, and when done, cut out the airleron. Works great.
PS I would trammel the wing before glueing in the airleron stuff and
cutting. This makes sure all is parallel.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: <catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
>
> Ben,
>
> Why do you need to modify the wing rib jig? I thought the recommended
> method of construction was to build the ailerons in-place and then cut
> them free. As I understand it this helps the ailerons line up perfectly
> with the rest of the wing. This would mean all the ribs are built the
> same.
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
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Ben,
You can check the archives, and I'm sure others will jump in.
But it's a process, that has to be done on all wings, where, using a long
device that you can make yourself. consisting of a rod with 2 pins at right
angles. You pick points near both ends of the spar where the ribs cross. By
taking diagonal comparisons of each, you can tell if the "rectangle" is
square. This means pushing or pulling each spar slightly till the
criss-cross readings are equal. Usually done when the flying and drag wires
are installed. This way when you glue in the aierleron<sp> spars are glued
in,,,all will be square
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Ramler" <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
> <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
>
> what do you mean by trammel the wing?
> Ben in MN
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: walt <waltdak@verizon.net>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 11:05:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
>
>
> Ben,
> Yeah, you build the whole wing, in one piece,,,then you glue in the
> airleron
> spars, and when done, cut out the airleron. Works great.
> PS I would trammel the wing before glueing in the airleron stuff and
> cutting. This makes sure all is parallel.
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <catdesigns@att.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my project
>
>
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> Why do you need to modify the wing rib jig? I thought the recommended
>> method of construction was to build the ailerons in-place and then cut
>> them free. As I understand it this helps the ailerons line up perfectly
>> with the rest of the wing. This would mean all the ribs are built the
>> same.
>>
>> Chris Tracy
>> Sacramento, Ca
>> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Just back form a 10 day business trip that included Brodhead and I am out
again on Tuesday for Hawaii on business, I may be there for about a week.
Any Piets on the big island or any of the islands for that matter?
Ill be there soon enough and would love to visit a Piet Hawaiian style.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection holes (wing) |
"Wait till you get to the part about the empty oatmeal cardboard containers
;o)"
Oscar, oh great, that will be the one thing we obsess about till we know =)
On the road from Osh down to Brodhead right now, I don't expect to post this
till returning to Scholler.
Regards, Chrissi
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| Subject: | Re: Piets in Hawaii |
John,
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With all the travel you do..... I want your job! What is it that you do aga
in?.....airplane security agent inspecting flight attendant demeanors?.....
.lol
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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--- On Sat, 8/2/08, AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com> wrote:
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in Hawaii
Just back form a 10 day business trip that included Brodhead and I am out a
gain on Tuesday for Hawaii on business, I may be there for about a week.
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Any Piets on the big island or any of the islands for that matter?
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Ill be there soon enough and would love to visit a Piet Hawaiian style.
-
John
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