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1. 06:12 AM - Re: built-up spar (Robert Gow)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: built-up spar (Phillips, Jack)
3. 06:52 AM - Re: Waldo Update (David Jones)
4. 06:55 AM - Re: built-up spar (Peter W Johnson)
5. 07:04 AM - Re: built-up spar (Robert Gow)
6. 07:04 AM - Re: built-up spar (Jack T. Textor)
7. 08:42 AM - Re: built-up spar (JohnC)
8. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: built-up spar (Jack T. Textor)
9. 04:19 PM - Re: (Roy Brooks)
10. 05:50 PM - Sky King (Tim Verthein)
11. 06:31 PM - Re: Sky King (Ben Charvet)
12. 07:06 PM - Re: Sky King (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
13. 10:29 PM - Re: Waldo Update (Clif Dawson)
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In my case I've decided to use a built up spar (3 piece wing) I do not
have enough material to fill in the sections that were supposed to be solid.
Should I get more spar material or just use something local like #1 pine or
ash or oak?
Bob
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I you use Ash, you will probably set a record for the heaviest Pietenpol
spar ever built. Sitkas Spruce weighs 27 lbs/cu. ft. Ash weighs 42
lbs/ cu. ft.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Gow
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: built-up spar
In my case I've decided to use a built up spar (3 piece wing) I do not
have enough material to fill in the sections that were supposed to be
solid. Should I get more spar material or just use something local like
#1 pine or ash or oak?
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Waldo Update |
Clif,
Good Job! Thanks, How did you get this info?
David
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Anything with a Grumman Goose Bug Smasher in it has
> got to be good!
>
> I've kicked myself many times for not taping it.
>
>
> http://www.goldmonkey.com/
>
>
> http://www.warlockvideos.com/talesofthegoldmonkey.html?gclid=CNqK_diQj5UCFREUiQodAj4Ugw
>
> http://www.scifi2k.com/monkey/monkey.html
>
>
> http://dvd.search.ebay.com/Tales-Of-The-Gold-Monkey_DVDs-Movies_W0QQbsZSearchQQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZV3RQ204B8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZ11232QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsatitleZQ22TalesQ20OfQ20TheQ20GoldQ20MonkeyQ22QQsofocusZunknown
>
> I've never used anything like this myself but here it is.
>
>
> http://www.downloadnova.com/member-files/Tales%2Bof%2Bthe%2BGold%2BMonkey%2B-%2BSeason%2B1.html
>
> http://members.aol.com/thegneech/goose.htm
>
> Have fun!
>
> Clif
>
> So why did bush operators like the goose?
>
>
> --- Original Message -----
> *From:* David Jones <planecrazy2020@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:11 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Waldo Update
>
> Michael,
>
> Yes, that's the series. It was set at Key West or somewhere in the
> Caribbean and they would fly from one island to another with their
> adventures. I spoke to the people at Amazon about the subject, but never
> heard anything.
>
> Take care,
> David
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net> wrote:
>
>> David:
>>
>> Was'nt that one the one with the Grumman Mallard and the little black eye
>> Jack Russel terrier.
>>
>> Michael in Maine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* David Jones <planecrazy2020@gmail.com>
>>
>> I've been trying to find the old TV series "The Tales of the Golden
>> Monkey" which Linda is working on. Does anyone remember this series about
>> 25 years ago?
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> David
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Bob,
I used spruce for my "blocking in" sections, ash or oak may be a bit heavy.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com <http://www.cpc-world.com/>
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gow
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: built-up spar
In my case I've decided to use a built up spar (3 piece wing) I do not
have enough material to fill in the sections that were supposed to be solid.
Should I get more spar material or just use something local like #1 pine or
ash or oak?
Bob
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Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter W
Johnson
Sent: August 15, 2008 9:55 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: built-up spar
Bob,
I used spruce for my "blocking in" sections, ash or oak may be a bit
heavy.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gow
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 11:08 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: built-up spar
In my case I've decided to use a built up spar (3 piece wing) I do not
have enough material to fill in the sections that were supposed to be solid.
Should I get more spar material or just use something local like #1 pine or
ash or oak?
Bob
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Bob,
I built...built up spars, take a look at my site and the attached
drawing. I used 7 ply marine plywood and Douglas fir.
Jack
www.textors.com
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Subject: | Re: built-up spar |
Hey Jack, did you use okoume, mahogany, or birch? What types and sizes of plywood
have others used as web for spars? I am looking to go pick up some spruce next
week and place an order for plywood. Thanks in advance for any suggestion
or comments.
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I just hope when it's my turn to reach up and touch the face of God, I don't poke
him in the eye on accident.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198729#198729
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Subject: | Re: built-up spar |
John,
If I remember correctly it was Meranti BS1088 which is heavier and more
solid than Okume. About 28# for a 4x8 sheet.
Jack
www.textors.com
Hey Jack, did you use okoume, mahogany, or birch? What types and sizes
of plywood have others used as web for spars? I am looking to go pick up
some spruce next week and place an order for plywood. Thanks in advance
for any suggestion or comments.
--------
I just hope when it's my turn to reach up and touch the face of God, I
don't poke him in the eye on accident.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198729#198729
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Sorry for the delay. I've had some
problems and asked Oscar to help post some info about my project and
parts. My hands are injured=2C and hard to type=2C sorry for the "form
letter" but the below info basically states the "Who=2C What=2C When and
Why"... I am sending this to all who have inquired. If you see it again
as posted by Oscar=2C I apologize. Also=2C I won't be much help in loading
this stuff=2C so I would advise to bring a friend and a suitable trailer.
Oscar:
I'm having fits responding to people on the Piet list who have asked off-li
ne questions about my engine and Piet project.
Can you send this out=2C with my apology that I've turned into an old fart
on a farm that is binary challenged? I just can't get my poop out on the Pi
etenpol list for some reason and I've had a lot of e-mail about this stuff.
Part
of the reason I can't respond individually to each inquiry is I am in
so much pain from arthritis and I jumped into break up a SECONDdog
fight in May=2C and my hands are injured and shoulder hurts. The
first dog fight sent me to the emergency room. I learned it's best to
pull off one dog at a time and lock them up somewhere=2C rather than jump
in the middle and try to stop 7 dogs! ( i rescue abandoned dogs... See
YouTube and type in "Winters Texas" and look for the abandoned mother
dog and her pups... I have 10 dogs and am trying to find homes for most
of them.)
I got a shot of
Decadron and Medrol today=2C I start Predisone tomorrow and Celebrex
after the Predisone=2C so I hope to be feeling much better in a couple of
weeks... It just hurts to type and I haven't been up to sending out
individual=2C personal e-mails. I'd starve to death if I were a homeless
person on a corner somewhere. I hurt too much to hold up a sign
'HOMELESS=2C NEED TACOS AND CORONA=2C GOD BLESS YOU'.
I plan on
cleaning up my hanger when I get back on my feet=2C and when it cools off
(and if the diverticulitis calms down with the Predisone) and I will
organize all my stuff I am selling=2C provide a better description and
I'll post everything on YouTube with commentary. This might not happen
until cooler weather hits=2C maybe in about 5 weeks. My hanger is like an
oven and I think the heat exacerbates the diveticulitis.
Prior
to getting the info out on YouTube=2C I'll invite any and all to come out
and take a sneak preview in the hanger BEFORE I put this all on EBAY=2C
if they wish to see it up-close and in person. I don't even know what
amount to ask=2C but I have to go through my engine receipts=2C see how
many THOUSANDS I have in rebuilding this engine (that was advertised to
me as having only 5 hours SMOH=2C he should have said the SWWO=2C 'WORLD'S
WORST OVERHAUL')
I think by putting this on Ebay with an honest
description=2C the goods will bring fair-market-value=2C and I won't have
to dicker with the price.
I also will be selling my Cessna
150/150 having a 160 horsepower Lycoming 0-320 E2D that CAN EMBARRASS
any Cessna 172 out there. More on the Cessna later when I get it on
YouTube. The farm more than likely (my paradise with a grass strip=2C
5TA6) will be the last thing to go.
But for now=2C I ask everyone to please be patient and understand I just ca
n't do much e-mail at this time.
From: speedbrake@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
Roy=2C I am sorry for the loss of your father and the drive to finish this
project. It is understandable...life will jack you pretty hard at times and
the unforseen futer is always changing. I wish you and yours the best and
hope that maybe someday=2C the "building bug" will visit you again.
I am new to this project and am just now getting my wing jigs made. I am al
ways looking to purchase what I will need in the future...engine included.
If the engine does not sell with the plane=2C I would be interested in talk
ing to you about purchasing it. Please let me know=2C when you know. Thanks
.
--- On Wed=2C 8/13/08=2C Roy Brooks <n900ml@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Roy Brooks <n900ml@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List:
As much as I hate to... I'll be selling my Piet project in a couple of week
s=2C probably putting it on Ebay starting the auction as some very low pric
e.
Several years ago=2C I bought a project from a guy who was an Air Force mai
ntenance officer on both the B-1 and B-2 aircraft. He also is an A&P/IA=2C
moved a few times=2C took a job with Cessna after getting out of the milita
ry...
I bought this about 5 years ago and had plans to finish it with my father
=2C but soon after I brought it home=2C my dad passed away=2C thus the proj
ect has been gathering dust in my hanger here in Central Texas.
It was originally set up for a Corvair=2C but I had planned on putting my C
ontinental A-80 on it. The fabric was pulled back off the front of the fuse
lage and probably needs to be completely replaced. It is a Piet fuselage wi
th Grega wings. The original builder wanted the Grega wings because of the
different stall characteristics=2C but he wanted the "looks" of
a Pietenpol and built the fuselage from the Piet plans.
The wings are covered and painted and it has an "number" already on the win
gs=2C but they can be easily painted over.
It has Honda CB 350 wheels (they look pretty cool) and I had them powder co
ated red (I had planned on painting a Texas flag design or total red for th
is project.)
The center section was already built=2C but I removed the fabric and lower
plywood with the intention of installing a small supplemental fuel tank...
I have new plywood and fabric to recover. My dad said there needs to be som
e washers welded onto the metal tabs that attach to the wings. I don't know
why these were omitted by the original builder.
The lift struts are ready to go and I have all the cables.
The instrument panel IS NOT INCLUDED. I have a small fortune in the panel a
nd I am keeping it (pilot and passenger both) I paid a lot of money for "pr
emium carpathian burl elm" veneer that I
laminated in a vacuum bag=2C and it looks like it belongs in a 1930-ish Ro
lls Royce. Again=2C the panel and gauges are not for sale=2C please don't a
sk.
If anybody is interested=2C please e-mail me off this list at "N900ML@HOTMA
IL.COM" and I can provide more info and pictures. I won't be able to send a
ny recent pictures anytime soon=2C but can do so sometime in mid September.
I'll also be selling the rebuilt A-80 engine FOR PARTS ONLY. I don't want t
he liability if someone goes flying and they nose in someday. My dad rebuil
t the engine (he had an A&P license) and I simply want the engine to go as
a "parts project" with the buyer signing a bill of sale stating this.
The engine case was sent to Divco for a rebuild. The accessory case went of
f for repair too. The cylinders were sent off and are Cermnil (the nickel b
ore process=2C vastly superior to channel chrome=2C satin chrome) The crank
was rebuilt I think M03 under. New bearings new=2C rod bolts=2C
new Slick mags with dual impulse couplers... Long story made short=2C this
engine looks like it just came out of the Twilight Zone as if being in a t
ime warp since 1941. I also have a rebuilt yellow tagged carb on this engin
e and the intake tubes are powder coated candy apple blue. The valve cover
s are powder coated in Continental yellow... I've never seen an A-65 or A-8
0 that is as pretty as this engine. This engine even has a new data plate t
hat looks incredible. All the info from the old data plate was PROFESSIONAL
LY engraved onto the new data plate. BUT AGAIN=2C I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE E
NGINE WILL BE SOLD ONLY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS A "PARTS ENGINE
=2C" not something that is ready to stab onto an airplane and go flying. Th
e engine will be sold separate from the airplane project.
If anybody wants a sneak preview=2C this project can be seen at the airport
in Ballinger=2C Texas (between San Angelo and Abilene.) I won't be able to
show it
until sometime in mid or late September (please don't ask to see it earlie
r).
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Long as we're talking about airplane shows, remember Sky King?
I'm not old enough to have seen it in it's original run, but I did watch in reruns
when I was a kid. Sky King and his niece Penny saving the west from evil doers.
In the first season or so he flew a Cessna T-50, which was made of wood
(the Bamboo Bomber, as I recall). Great 50's TV. And between my interest in
aviation, the the fact that my Wife is from Montana, it makes for fun watching.
And episodes ARE available VERY cheaply on Amazon, eBay, etc.
I actually have an autographed 8x10 black and white glossy of Sky with "Songbird"
hanging in my office at work.
Tim in Bovey
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If you really like Sky King (or his niece Penny). Every episode is
available for free on this website:
http://www.americanflyers.net/entertainment/skyking.asp
Ben
Tim Verthein wrote:
>
> Long as we're talking about airplane shows, remember Sky King?
>
> I'm not old enough to have seen it in it's original run, but I did watch in reruns
when I was a kid. Sky King and his niece Penny saving the west from evil
doers. In the first season or so he flew a Cessna T-50, which was made of wood
(the Bamboo Bomber, as I recall). Great 50's TV. And between my interest
in aviation, the the fact that my Wife is from Montana, it makes for fun watching.
And episodes ARE available VERY cheaply on Amazon, eBay, etc.
>
> I actually have an autographed 8x10 black and white glossy of Sky with "Songbird"
hanging in my office at work.
>
> Tim in Bovey
>
>
>
>
>
>
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That's where I was going to send him, I watch the on occasion so I can feel
like a kid again too. I grew up on Sky King and Mike Nelson. I love the sky
and the water.....
John
In a message dated 8/15/2008 9:32:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bcharvet@bellsouth.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
If you really like Sky King (or his niece Penny). Every episode is
available for free on this website:
http://www.americanflyers.net/entertainment/skyking.asp
Ben
Tim Verthein wrote:
<minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
>
> Long as we're talking about airplane shows, remember Sky King?
>
> I'm not old enough to have seen it in it's original run, but I did watch
in reruns when I was a kid. Sky King and his niece Penny saving the west from
evil doers. In the first season or so he flew a Cessna T-50, which was made
of wood (the Bamboo Bomber, as I recall). Great 50's TV. And between my
interest in aviation, the the fact that my Wife is from Montana, it makes for
fun watching. And episodes ARE available VERY cheaply on Amazon, eBay, etc.
>
> I actually have an autographed 8x10 black and white glossy of Sky with
"Songbird" hanging in my office at work.
>
> Tim in Bovey
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Waldo Update |
Thanks, The Gneech I've had in my favourites for
years, Tales I found a while back and the others
came from a google search, " tales of the gold monkey".
There's a lot more sites out there.
There was an animated Saturday morning kiddies
takeoff on the Gold Monkey also.
So, no biters on the bushplane thing? :-)
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: David Jones
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Waldo Update
Clif,
Good Job! Thanks, How did you get this info?
David
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
wrote:
Anything with a Grumman Goose Bug Smasher in it has
got to be good!
I've kicked myself many times for not taping it.
http://www.goldmonkey.com/
http://www.warlockvideos.com/talesofthegoldmonkey.html?gclid=CNqK_diQj5
UCFREUiQodAj4Ugw
http://www.scifi2k.com/monkey/monkey.html
http://dvd.search.ebay.com/Tales-Of-The-Gold-Monkey_DVDs-Movies_W0QQbsZSe
archQQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZV3RQ204B8QQ
fsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZ11232QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ
2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsatitleZQ22TalesQ20OfQ20TheQ20GoldQ20MonkeyQ22QQsofocusZunk
nown
I've never used anything like this myself but here it is.
http://www.downloadnova.com/member-files/Tales%2Bof%2Bthe%2BGold%2BMonkey
%2B-%2BSeason%2B1.html
http://members.aol.com/thegneech/goose.htm
Have fun!
Clif
So why did bush operators like the goose?
--- Original Message -----
From: David Jones
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Waldo Update
Michael,
Yes, that's the series. It was set at Key West or somewhere in
the Caribbean and they would fly from one island to another with their
adventures. I spoke to the people at Amazon about the subject, but
never heard anything.
Take care,
David
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net>
wrote:
David:
Was'nt that one the one with the Grumman Mallard and the little
black eye Jack Russel terrier.
Michael in Maine
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From: David Jones
I've been trying to find the old TV series "The Tales of the
Golden Monkey" which Linda is working on. Does anyone remember this
series about 25 years ago?
Good Luck,
David
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