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1. 04:31 AM - Re: Practice prop (Gene & Tammy)
2. 04:50 AM - practice prop (Lawrence Williams)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: practice prop (Gene & Tammy)
4. 06:43 AM - Re: Practice prop (walt)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: practice prop (Ryan Mueller)
6. 07:57 AM - Re: practice prop (Lagowski Morrow)
7. 08:29 AM - Re: Practice prop (amsafetyc@aol.com)
8. 08:45 AM - prop strikes (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
9. 09:46 AM - Re: prop strikes (Gary Boothe)
10. 10:17 AM - Re: prop strikes (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
11. 10:29 AM - Re: prop strikes (bike.mike)
12. 10:57 AM - Beach Boys (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
13. 11:38 AM - Re: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet (Tim Willis)
14. 12:21 PM - Re: prop strikes (Gary Boothe)
15. 02:02 PM - Re: Homemade Turnbuckles (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
16. 02:14 PM - inspection holes (skellytown flyer)
17. 04:42 PM - My Piet has wings! (Ben Charvet)
18. 04:58 PM - Vicksburg, MS (Chet's Mail)
19. 05:09 PM - Re: My Piet has wings! (HelsperSew@aol.com)
20. 05:44 PM - Using motercycle chain links (shad bell)
21. 06:17 PM - Re: Using motercycle chain links (skellytown flyer)
22. 11:03 PM - Re: My Piet has wings! (Joser)
23. 11:36 PM - Re: Using motercycle chain links (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Practice prop |
Jim, for what it's worth, I completely agree wdith Ryan.
If your not already doing this on landing your Piet, try this next
time...Before the wheels touch add 50 to 100 rpms above idle. Makes a
HUGE difference in landing a Piet.
Gene
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Practice prop
Maybe instead of investing in an expendable prop in case it gets
pranged again, it would be better to spend that money for some more
flight training. Murphy states that if you spend money on an expendable
prop you will then damage everything but the prop the next time you do
something.
Figure out why your incident happened, and resolve the issue. If it's
a problem with the aircraft, fix that. If it was a problem with the
pilot, fix that.
Just out of curiosity, how was the prop destroyed without damaging the
engine? If the prop is bent while it is not turning, that could still
transmit a tremendous amount of force to the crankshaft. Make sure
nothing was damaged before taking to the skies again....
Ryan
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
wrote:
I'm looking for a used wood prop with which I can gain experience in
good takeofs and landings. My first real landing resulted in a damaged
left gear and destroyed metal prop. Repairs are in progress and I hope
to be back in the air in Sept. No damage to the wings, fuselage and it
appears to the engine ( no abrupt prop stop ). One more engine check to
go.
I have a gorgeous wood, custom prop given to me by a friend, but am
reluctant to use it until I get better at this landing thing. The
embarassing part is I got my taildragger rating on a Friday and smacked
my plane the following Monday.
Something in the low 70's in dia and low 40's pitch. Is there
anything out there??
Jim Lagowski, NX221PT
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I'd much rather help a Piet pilot in need than page through message after m
essage dealing with old tv shows and movies. Much of those discussions shou
ld be one-on-one imho.
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Blowing off someone in need with a "fix the pilot" line doesn't get his Pie
t (or snowflake) back into the air. I have broken two props many hundreds o
f miles from home and would not have gotten back so quickly if kindred spir
its not helped me out.
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So... I have an unused spare that we could talk about if you are still in n
eed. Please email me off site for details.
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Larry W.
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ps. breaking a wood prop usually does nothing bad to the engine.=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: practice prop |
Larry, not sure how anyone can be "blowing off someone" when they are
suggesting the Pilot fix the problem that led to the crash that broke
the prop. Don't know how you broke two props but perhaps if you had
"fixed the problem" it would have been only one prop. Just my thoughts.
It is wonderful of you to help him out with the spare prop. It just
goes to show what great folks are here on this site.
Gene (and yes, I have broken a prop. ONCE)
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams
To: Pietlist
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: practice prop
I'd much rather help a Piet pilot in need than page through
message after message dealing with old tv shows and movies. Much of
those discussions should be one-on-one imho.
Blowing off someone in need with a "fix the pilot" line doesn't
get his Piet (or snowflake) back into the air. I have broken two props
many hundreds of miles from home and would not have gotten back so
quickly if kindred spirits not helped me out.
So... I have an unused spare that we could talk about if you are
still in need. Please email me off site for details.
Larry W.
ps. breaking a wood prop usually does nothing bad to the engine.
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| Subject: | Re: Practice prop |
Ryan,
I agree.
Next it'll be a broken neck.
If a certified plane, any prop strike is a manditory engine teardown
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Practice prop
Maybe instead of investing in an expendable prop in case it gets
pranged again, it would be better to spend that money for some more
flight training. Murphy states that if you spend money on an expendable
prop you will then damage everything but the prop the next time you do
something.
Figure out why your incident happened, and resolve the issue. If it's
a problem with the aircraft, fix that. If it was a problem with the
pilot, fix that.
Just out of curiosity, how was the prop destroyed without damaging the
engine? If the prop is bent while it is not turning, that could still
transmit a tremendous amount of force to the crankshaft. Make sure
nothing was damaged before taking to the skies again....
Ryan
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
wrote:
I'm looking for a used wood prop with which I can gain experience in
good takeofs and landings. My first real landing resulted in a damaged
left gear and destroyed metal prop. Repairs are in progress and I hope
to be back in the air in Sept. No damage to the wings, fuselage and it
appears to the engine ( no abrupt prop stop ). One more engine check to
go.
I have a gorgeous wood, custom prop given to me by a friend, but am
reluctant to use it until I get better at this landing thing. The
embarassing part is I got my taildragger rating on a Friday and smacked
my plane the following Monday.
Something in the low 70's in dia and low 40's pitch. Is there
anything out there??
Jim Lagowski, NX221PT
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| Subject: | Re: practice prop |
Larry,
The comment was not meant to be flippant, or blowing him off. I'm sorry if
it came across that way.
I'm just saying that before throwing another prop on and giving it a second
shot, make sure to address the issue that caused the accident in the first
place (be that plane or pilot). In addition, in Jim's original post he
mentions that the prop he destroyed was a metal prop, not a wood prop. I
would want to make absolutely sure the engine was not damaged before flying
it again. At the very least take a runout measurement on the crank.
Depending upon how exactly it was damaged, maybe even a teardown.
And as Gene mentioned, thanks for offering up a prop for Jim. Have a good
day,
Ryan
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'd much rather help a Piet pilot in need than page through message after
> message dealing with old tv shows and movies. Much of those discussions
> should be one-on-one imho.
>
> Blowing off someone in need with a "fix the pilot" line doesn't get his
> Piet (or snowflake) back into the air. I have broken two props many hundreds
> of miles from home and would not have gotten back so quickly if kindred
> spirits not helped me out.
>
> So... I have an unused spare that we could talk about if you are still in
> need. Please email me off site for details.
>
> Larry W.
>
> ps. breaking a wood prop usually does nothing bad to the engine.
>
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| Subject: | Re: practice prop |
Larry Williams, Thanks for the offer to help out with a prop.!! What is
your personal e-mail address?--Jim Lagowski
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams
To: Pietlist
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: practice prop
I'd much rather help a Piet pilot in need than page through
message after message dealing with old tv shows and movies. Much of
those discussions should be one-on-one imho.
Blowing off someone in need with a "fix the pilot" line doesn't
get his Piet (or snowflake) back into the air. I have broken two props
many hundreds of miles from home and would not have gotten back so
quickly if kindred spirits not helped me out.
So... I have an unused spare that we could talk about if you are
still in need. Please email me off site for details.
Larry W.
ps. breaking a wood prop usually does nothing bad to the engine.
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Nothing is mandatory on an experimental, amateur built airplane. I used
drywall screws in several places where they
were not only appropriate but totally safe and functional and had no
qualms about doing it even though they were not AN
certified hardware.
I view prop strikes in a similar fashion where if you know (not second
hand) the circumstances of the prop strike you can
logically determine if the engine really warrants a tear down or not.
Things like having a wood prop strike are far different
from having a metal prop strike as the wood is so much more forgiving
and absorbs great forces upon impact that help
buffer the blow to the prop hub and crankshaft. Low idle vs. run up
rpm would be another big factor as well as the
report of the dial gauge results on crankshaft runout. If the engine
is weak in compression numbers the past year or
two and high time.....a prop strike, even if the dial numbers show a
true crank, might be a good reason to take a winter
to major an engine. There are cases where I would (personally) not
perform a teardown
but if there is any doubt......tear it out.
Mike C.
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Mike,
What is "winter?"
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(11 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes
. might be a good reason to take a winter
to major an engine.
Mike C.
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What is "winter?"
Gary Boothe
Gary,
What are mudslides, earthquakes, and wild fires ?
Mike C:)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: prop strikes |
Mike,
I am a fourth-generation Californian, and I have never had to drive to
work through a mudslide, earthquake, or wild fire.
I have never had to de-mud my wings. I have never had to scrape ashes
off the windshield. The earthquake plow has never left a pile in my
driveway.
I guess we Californians just can't answer your question.
Now, excuse me while I walk down to the beach...in the fog.
Mike Hardaway
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes
What is "winter?"
Gary Boothe
Gary,
What are mudslides, earthquakes, and wild fires ?
Mike C:)
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One thing some sing when not from California is..... I wish they all
could be.....
But Wisconsin ladies aren't bad either. They know how to drive
tractors and shift manual gear vehicles:)
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet |
Harvey, Yes, good idea, and one I had already followed. The software is free,
but 55 mbytes, too much since I am on dial-up here at the end of the earth.
No chance that I can download that big a file intact. It cost me $10 to get Olympus
to send me a disc, no charge for two-day delivery. And then, too, I have
the uncorrupted disc.
Billy M., thanks for the card reader idea. I will look into that as well, but
the near-term solution is on the way.
Tim
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-----Original Message-----
>From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
>Sent: Aug 16, 2008 3:34 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet
>
>You can get software from the internet ,just google it and trace it out.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:35:25 PM
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet
>
>
>Rob,
>
>I've got pix of the set in my camera, but now I discover that the Olympus software
will not load in my new PC (with Vista). I am ordering Olympus Master 2,
and should get it next week.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Rob Stapleton, Jr." <foto@alaska.net>
>>Sent: Aug 14, 2008 2:15 PM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet
>>
>>
>>Tim,
>>I am going for the steel cub type gear with bungees. Do you have photos of
>>the wheels and bearings and photos of your set up? There is nothing up here
>>for sale, or to scrounge!I appreciate the reply...regards.RS
>>
>>Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist
>>Anchorage, Alaska
>>907-230-9425
>>KL2AN
>>Skype:rob.stapleton.jr
>>IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska.net
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis
>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:57 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet
>>
>><timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>>
>>Robert,
>>
>>Are you going for Jenny style or Cub-style gear? If the latter, I can help.
>>
>>
>>My bearings require a 1.5 inch shaft, the wheels are 6 inch, and the brake
>>hardware is set up for discs. I have no brakes, but if I used these as
>>planned two years ago, I would use mechanical go-cart brakes. (I also have
>>go-cart brake pedals.) OTOH, all this gear looks exactly like the same
>>hardware components as on my project, which also has aircraft hydraulic
>>brakes.
>>
>>Let me know if you are interested.
>>
>>Tim in central TX
>>do not archive
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
>>>Sent: Aug 13, 2008 7:56 AM
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet
>>>
>>>Try:
>>>
>>>http://www.airdromeairplanes.com/HeavyDutyWheels.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Looks like I'm going to get mine there.
>>>
>>>Bob
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rob
>>>Stapleton, Jr.
>>> Sent: August 13, 2008 3:29 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet
>>>
>>>
>>> It time to put the Piet on wheels.
>>>
>>> OK guys-anybody out there have wheels or brakes for a 1" axle, I can't
>>>find anything but new stuff here in Anchorage and it is really spendy.
>>>
>>> Not to choosy in Alaska.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>==
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Touch=E9!
Good thing none of those three things affect the surfing=85.
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes
What is =93winter?=94
Gary Boothe
Gary,
What are mudslides, earthquakes, and wild fires ?
Mike C:)
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| Subject: | Re: Homemade Turnbuckles |
Sorry Jack for the lateness in catching up post-Brodeah/post-Oshkosh
Turnbuckles... uh that would be a firm NO at this time, too many fussy
operations for too small a return on the time invested.
... plus probably too many "advisors" on this one thank you =) Its not that
we mind helpful input from experienced builders, just there are some items
that will illicit as many variations as respondents and by the time you
incorporate everyone's wish lists the very next question asked is "why is it so
expensive?".
For the time being we'll stick to custom fabbed hardware and not compete
with products you can buy off the shelf.
It was a pleasure meeting everyone at Brodhead and we look forward to next
year!
Regards, Chrissi & Randi
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
===============================
In a message dated 8/5/2008 9:35:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
<Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
Maybe this would be an area for the CozyGirrrls to make some parts.
There are several dozen turnbuckles required to build a Pietenpol, and
they could offer a turnbuckle kit.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Willis
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Homemade Turnbuckles
<timothywillis@earthlink.net>
In theory, we should be able to build stronger turnbuckles than standard
aircraft ones. The A/C turnbuckles are made of brass. Their male
threads are rolled, making them stronger than the cut threads we would
make. However, I believe the female (tapped) threads are cut. That
would likely be the wekaer link, and more likely to strip in tension.
Moreover, brass is has less tensile and shering strength than either
steel or stainless steel.
Building our own turnbuckles out of stainless steel (female) and a cap
bolt (male) might be the best of all worlds. The high quality steel cap
bolt (socket head) has rolled threads and is case hardened, as well.
The mating female part (homemade) has cut threads, but the S.S. material
is much stronger than the brass. Moreover, the builder might experiment
with slightly undersize tap drills to achieve nearly interference fit
(more thread-to-thread surface). This last step might not be practical,
and a real tap-breaker, but perhaps a worthy experiment.
Also, as in the demontrated design, the homebuilder can make the straps
that carry the loads on the ends of the entire turnbuckle assembly as
thick and wide as needed.
Of course, as stated first in this note... this is only THEORY, and that
is why testing is so important.
If it works, the proper homemade turnbuckle would be not only cheaper,
but better than store-bought aircraft quality. It would also be more in
keeping with the barndoor hinge, baling wire, and oatmeal carton LE
heritage of the Piet itself. Note, though, that this is definitely NOT
an appeal for Home Depot turnbuckles.
Tim in central Texas
-----Original Message-----
>From: gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>
>Sent: Aug 5, 2008 6:22 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Homemade Turnbuckles
>
>Bill,
>
>Dale Johnson built a pull tester for testing the cables on NX18235. We
also used it to test some homemade turnbuckle barrels.
>Dale would be happy to do a test on one or more of your turnbuckles.
>Let me know if you are interested.
>
>Greg Cardinal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Church
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Homemade Turnbuckles
>
>
> Ken,
>
> I kind of got sidetracked away from the homemade turnbuckles for a
while, and I've actually been building my tailfeathers. So, the short
answer to your question is "No, I haven't".
> Having said that, here's the long answer.
> I didn't do any strength calculations, but I have a strong feeling
that the turnbuckles as I made them will be sufficient in strength, but
I have yet to do some real-world pull testing to see what they can
safely handle. Before I do the pull test I wanted to refine the design a
bit to make them a bit more user friendly. That way I'll be testing the
proper part, not just something similar. I still plan to do it, just not
right now. If you need an answer right now, I think just about anyone
could make up a set of these in a short period of time, and then do
their own testing using a simple apparatus (lever and pivot). When I do
get around to revising the design and doing the pull-testing, I'll share
the results with the list.
> If you want more details about how I made the prototype, let me know.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
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> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide,
BA, CPO, FAAOP
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:37 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Homemade Turnbuckles
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Have you nailed down the materials (thickness, width, length,
rod size, etc) to manufacture the turnbuckles for the tail section?
After seeing the price for the turnbuckles on Aircraft Spruce and
others, I think making my own would be a great idea... any assistance?
>
>
> Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
>
>
>
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| Subject: | inspection holes |
I am about ready to cover my center section on the GN-1 I got from D.J. but am
concerned how I can rig my aileron cables and get to them once it is time to rig
up.i had intentions of running them through the top pulleys in the center section
and down in the open and install the turnbuckles where they are easily
reached and safety wired.but if I have much of anything on the end of the cables
I can't very well remove the cables and wings once they are rigged without
cutting them.so my only option I can see is to put openings under the center section
to reach in and complete the hook-up ahead of the pulleys.that is - between
the wing root and pulley.is there any way to get two hands through two inspection
rings and connect and safety them up without amputation ? I'm thinking
about some large fabricated door for access under there that would allow pretty
well the whole width and at least 8 inches front to back to do it.anyone got
better ideas? also a simple connection to hook the top cross cables together
without the expense of another turnbuckle-I have thought of using something
like a motorcycle chain master link and go through the nico-pressed loops to link
them together.will this get by an inspection? seems like under Experimental
Amateur built it should.I hear about guys fabricating home made turnbuckles
with wire and allen screws and it for sure should be strongest than that.just
wouldn't allow for adjustment so the final connections would need to be at the
aileron horns and set right.Raymond
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| Subject: | My Piet has wings! |
I passed a real milestone this afternoon. Finally got the wings
temporarily hung on the fuselage to do the final fittings on the aileron
cables. Now I can move the wings out to my hangar and make the final
preps to start covering. Between this afternoon, and all the great
stuff I saw at Brodhead, I'm really excited that the end is in sight (or
maybe within a year)
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
P1010097.JPG
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Anyone in the Vicksburg, MS area that has or is building a Piet. If so I
would like to take a look see the week of the 25th. Please drop me a
note and lets see if we can get togeather.
Chet
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet has wings! |
Ben,
Congratulations on your milestone!! How sweet it is to finally see an
airplane!! I know the feeling, as I was at your stage last November. Keep going!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Using motercycle chain links |
We have chain links in the control system of 92GB, work fine.- I know all
about hooking up the aileron cables in the C/S, it sucks!- We have 2 rou
ghly 6inchx 6 inch square aluminum inpection covers right behind where the
ail cables go through the C/S.- When the wings are removed the lower ail
cables stay with the outboard wing panels,- The balence cable is split vi
a motorcycle chain link and also stays with the outboard panels.-
not sure if this helps or not for the question of routing aileron cables?
Shad=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Using motercycle chain links |
yes it does help-thanks.I will start trying to frame the inspection area in tomorrow.do
you sleeve the pins on the master link with short pieces of tubing or
just let the cable thimble ride on the pins?Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet has wings! |
Great Work Ben!!!
--------
Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: Using motercycle chain links |
Okay, let's see if I got this right. :-)
1-The pulleys are in the center section.
2-The cable has to come apart at or near the junction between
the center section and outer wing.
3-The turnbuckles are on the horn down at your feet.
So it appears to me you need one small opening ten to
twelve inches outboard of the pulley.
You make the connection six inches outboard of the pulley
when the system is in neutral ( aileros flat ).
You unhook the turnbuckle connection and pull the cable
and connector down through the hole. Since the connection is
six inches outboard and the hole is twelve inches then this
places the connector below the wing by six inches. Easy to
get at now, isn't it. :-)
Once those two connections are undone then unhooking the
top connections at both horns allows you to pull the entire
top cable turnbuckle assembly out the inspection hole
you've added in the middle of the center section far enough
to easily work on it.
My kids don't call me Crowdad for nothin' !
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: Pietenpol Discussion
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Using motercycle chain links
We have chain links in the control system of 92GB, work fine. I
know all about hooking up the aileron cables in the C/S, it sucks!
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