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1. 04:08 AM - Weight and balance question (HelsperSew@aol.com)
2. 06:25 AM - Re: From print to jig...how? (Joser)
3. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: From print to jig...how? (Rob Stapleton, Jr.)
4. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: My Piet has wings! (Rob Stapleton, Jr.)
5. 08:52 AM - Re: From print to jig...how? (Joser)
6. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: From print to jig...how? (Rick Holland)
7. 09:51 AM - Re: From print to jig...how? (Joser)
8. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: From print to jig...how? (Roman Bukolt)
9. 12:42 PM - Re: From print to jig...how? (Joser)
10. 01:17 PM - Re: Weight and balance question (walt)
11. 01:17 PM - Re: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet (H RULE)
12. 01:19 PM - Re: prop strikes (H RULE)
13. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: From print to jig...how? (Roman Bukolt)
14. 03:38 PM - Re: prop strikes (Gary Boothe)
15. 04:10 PM - Re: From print to jig...how? (Joser)
16. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: My Piet has wings! (Ben Charvet)
17. 04:53 PM - Re: Weight and balance question (airlion@bellsouth.net)
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| Subject: | Weight and balance question |
Good people,
I have not covered my plane yet, but it is almost fully assembled. I am
trying to estimate the CG of the fabric and paint. I know the approximate weight
of all this, but I need some guesses from you guys as far as what the "arm"
is, when doing my W&B calculations. Please help. Thanks.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
I am in the process of building my Corvair 110 and soon to start on the Piet, where
can I learn more about the Riblett airfoil and where can I obtain the drawing?
Thank you all for all of your help, Joser.
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Jose,
How is the Corvair engine project going? What exactly did you do to the
engine? Did you follow William Wyne's manuals? I am curious here in Alaska
aobut what I need to do the additional engine project---I am also building a
Piet with Corvair.
As for the Riblett airfoil I can't help...I am using the traditional
Pietenpol airfoil.
Regards,
Rob
Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist
Anchorage, Alaska
907-230-9425
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joser
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: From print to jig...how?
I am in the process of building my Corvair 110 and soon to start on the
Piet, where can I learn more about the Riblett airfoil and where can I
obtain the drawing? Thank you all for all of your help, Joser.
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199236#199236
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet has wings! |
Yes, nice--but pretty hefty looking struts..actually a good idea for setting
the wing in place.
RS
Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist
Anchorage, Alaska
907-230-9425
KL2AN
Skype:rob.stapleton.jr
IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska.net
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joser
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet has wings!
Great Work Ben!!!
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Hi Rob, after speaking at length with scores of builders, I will build my corvair
strictly to WW's manual and recommendations. I have read many articles involving
the Corvair conversion and without a doubt no one is better qualified than
WW. I have disassembled the engine and will clean, powdercoat, paint and assemble
with a nitrided crank, the recommended cam and all of the gold products
that WW offers. Will post pictures as I complete the work, hope to see your project
soon, right now I am preparing for a major storm, later, Joser.
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Thats what I am doing Jose. Needed more than 65 HP due to my high altitude.
Rebuilding a run out O-200 would have run around $9500. Will end up costing
me around $5500 with all of William's part but the exhaust manifold.
Rick
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Joser <jsoto5@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob, after speaking at length with scores of builders, I will build my
> corvair strictly to WW's manual and recommendations. I have read many
> articles involving the Corvair conversion and without a doubt no one is
> better qualified than WW. I have disassembled the engine and will clean,
> powdercoat, paint and assemble with a nitrided crank, the recommended cam
> and all of the gold products that WW offers. Will post pictures as I
> complete the work, hope to see your project soon, right now I am preparing
> for a major storm, later, Joser.
>
> --------
> Jose R. Soto
> Apopka, Florida
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199295#199295
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Rick,
I need the 100hp because I am 6'2" 260# Hahahaha. I have used this opportunity
to remove the weight from the body, I was over three hundred at the beginning
of the year! So I am on the Pietenpol lifestyle plan!
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Check the archives for info on the Riblett airfoil, in particular
emails from Pieti Lowell.
The prints are available from me for $10.00.
Roman Bukolt
6505 Urich Terrace
Madison, Wi. 53719
On Aug 18, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Joser wrote:
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> I am in the process of building my Corvair 110 and soon to start on
> the Piet, where can I learn more about the Riblett airfoil and where
> can I obtain the drawing? Thank you all for all of your help, Joser.
>
> --------
> Jose R. Soto
> Apopka, Florida
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199236#199236
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Hi Roman, I need two copies, how do I pay you? jsoto5@cfl.rr.com
Thanks, Joser.
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and balance question |
Dan,
In my layman's terms,,,The arm is the length, from the pivot point, a
certain weight that is figured in. And what effect the weight has at
that distance.
So a 5 lb weight at the C/G has no "moment" effect, while that 5 lbs at
the tail (which is a long "arm" has lots of effect.)
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque
also I have a nifty program that I figured in my wt/bal for my Piet.
Whould you like it?
It's in Excel format
Very simple to use, click a box, and change the value. The final C/G
automatically changes
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: HelsperSew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 7:07 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weight and balance question
Good people,
I have not covered my plane yet, but it is almost fully assembled. I
am trying to estimate the CG of the fabric and paint. I know the
approximate weight of all this, but I need some guesses from you guys as
far as what the "arm" is, when doing my W&B calculations. Please help.
Thanks.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet |
I take for granted everybody is in my situation and can download anything,s
orry bout that.I'm glad you were able to get the software anyway.=0Ado not
archive=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Tim Willis <timothyw
illis@earthlink.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, Aug
ust 17, 2008 2:38:17 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels a
<timothywillis@earthlink.net>=0A=0AHarvey,- Yes, good idea, and one I ha
d already followed.- The software is free, but 55 mbytes, too much since
I am on dial-up here at the end of the earth.- No chance that I can downl
oad that big a file intact.- It cost me $10 to get Olympus to send me a d
isc, no charge for two-day delivery.- And then, too, I have the uncorrupt
ed disc.- =0A=0ABilly M., thanks for the card reader idea.- I will look
into that as well, but the near-term solution is on the way.=0A=0ATim=0Ado
not archive=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0A>From: H RULE <harvey.rul
e@rogers.com>=0A>Sent: Aug 16, 2008 3:34 PM=0A>To: pietenpol-list@matronics
.com=0A>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my P
iet=0A>=0A>You can get software from the internet ,just google it and trace
it out.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>----- Original Message ----=0A>From: Tim Willis <ti
mothywillis@earthlink.net>=0A>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Sat
urday, August 16, 2008 2:35:25 PM=0A>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking f
or wheels and brakes for my Piet=0A>=0A>--> Pietenpol-List message posted b
y: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>=0A>=0A>Rob,=0A>=0A>I've got pix
of the set in my camera, but now I discover that the Olympus software will
not load in my new PC (with Vista).- I am ordering Olympus Master 2, and
should get it next week.- =0A>=0A>Tim=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----
=0A>>From: "Rob Stapleton, Jr." <foto@alaska.net>=0A>>Sent: Aug 14, 2008 2:
15 PM=0A>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List:
Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet=0A>>=0A>>--> Pietenpol-List mess
age posted by: "Rob Stapleton, Jr." <foto@alaska.net>=0A>>=0A>>Tim,=0A>>I a
m going for the steel cub type gear with bungees. Do you have photos of=0A>
>the wheels and bearings and photos of your set up? There is nothing up her
e=0A>>for sale, or to scrounge!I appreciate the reply...regards.RS=0A>>=0A>
>Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist=0A>>Anchorage, Alaska=0A>>907-230-9425=0A>>
KL2AN=0A>>Skype:rob.stapleton.jr=0A>>IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska
.net=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>-----Original Message-----=0A>>From: owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com=0A>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.co
m] On Behalf Of Tim Willis=0A>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:57 AM=0A>>
or wheels and brakes for my Piet=0A>>=0A>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted
by: Tim Willis=0A>><timothywillis@earthlink.net>=0A>>=0A>>Robert,=0A>>=0A>
>Are you going for Jenny style or Cub-style gear?- If the latter, I can h
elp.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>My bearings require a 1.5 inch shaft, the wheels are 6 i
nch, and the brake=0A>>hardware is set up for discs.- I have no brakes, b
ut if I used these as=0A>>planned two years ago, I would use mechanical go-
cart brakes.- (I also have=0A>>go-cart brake pedals.)- OTOH, all this g
ear looks exactly like the same=0A>>hardware components as on my project, w
hich also has aircraft hydraulic=0A>>brakes.- =0A>>=0A>>Let me know if yo
u are interested.=0A>>=0A>>Tim in central TX=0A>>do not archive=0A>>=0A>>--
---Original Message-----=0A>>>From: Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>=0A>
>>Sent: Aug 13, 2008 7:56 AM=0A>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>>>Sub
ject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for wheels and brakes for my Piet=0A>>>
=0A>>>Try:=0A>>>=0A>>>http://www.airdromeairplanes.com/HeavyDutyWheels.html
=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Looks like I'm going to get mine there.=0A>>>=0A>>>Bob=0A
>>>- -----Original Message-----=0A>>>- From: owner-pietenpol-list-serve
r@matronics.com=0A>>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On B
ehalf Of Rob=0A>>>Stapleton, Jr.=0A>>>- Sent: August 13, 2008 3:29 AM=0A>
>>- To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>>>- Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lo
oking for wheels and brakes for my Piet=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>- It time to put
the Piet on wheels.=0A>>>=0A>>>- OK guys-anybody out there have wheels o
r brakes for a 1" axle, I can't=0A>>>find anything but new stuff here in An
chorage- and it is really spendy.=0A>>>=0A>>>- Not to choosy in Alaska.
=====================
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| Subject: | Re: prop strikes |
Come on up to my place mid February and I'll show you!Ottawa Canada.I'll ev
en supply the booze!Your gonna need it!=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A----- O
riginal Message ----=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo: piete
npol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:43:52 PM=0ASubje
ct: RE: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes=0A=0A=0AMike,=0A-=0AWhat is =93winte
r?=94=0A-=0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion
=0ATail done, working on fuselage=0A(11 ribs down=85)=0A-=0ADo not archiv
e=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-serv
er@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Beha
lf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]=0ASent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:46
AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: prop stri
kes =0A-=0A=85might be a good reason to take a winter=0Ato major-an eng
ine=85=0A-=0AMike C. =0A-=0A-=0A -=0A -=0Ahttp://www.matronics.co
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Just send a check $20
On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Joser wrote:
>
> Hi Roman, I need two copies, how do I pay you? jsoto5@cfl.rr.com
> Thanks, Joser.
>
> --------
> Jose R. Soto
> Apopka, Florida
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199344#199344
>
>
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How's the surfin'?
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes
Come on up to my place mid February and I'll show you!Ottawa Canada.I'll
even supply the booze!Your gonna need it!
do not archive
----- Original Message ----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:43:52 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes
Mike,
What is "winter?"
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(11 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop strikes
. might be a good reason to take a winter
to major an engine.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
10-4
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Jose R. Soto
Apopka, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet has wings! |
The struts in the picture were made from 2X4 stock ripped down the
middle. I cut an angle on one end where they fit against the fuselage,
and bolted the other end to the wing after getting a good estimate how
long they needed to be. As I raised the outboard end of the wing I had
my wife place the temp struts on top of the strut fittings. Then I
could place shims between the strut and the fuselage side to get the
wash in/out close to flat. After all that was done I made marks on the
lower end where the hole needs to be, so I can use these temporary
struts as a template for the actual struts. One other cool thing that
happened. A friend gave me a set of struts from a Piper Tripacer. The
shortest ones are exactly the right length for the forward struts. The
other piper struts are longer and have an angled end where they fit the
wing of the Tri-Pacer, so that end will need to be trimmed down. They
came complete with adjustable forks. They are a little wider than they
need to be. I'm wondering, the Tri-Pacer doesnt use strut braces with
these same struts, do you think I'll need them for the Piet?
Rob Stapleton, Jr. wrote:
>
> Yes, nice--but pretty hefty looking struts..actually a good idea for setting
> the wing in place.
> RS
>
> Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist
> Anchorage, Alaska
> 907-230-9425
> KL2AN
> Skype:rob.stapleton.jr
> IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joser
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:03 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet has wings!
>
>
> Great Work Ben!!!
>
> --------
> Jose R. Soto
> Apopka, Florida
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199218#199218
>
>
>
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