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1. 08:35 AM - No clamps on ribs? (Michael Perez)
2. 08:58 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Jack T. Textor)
3. 09:03 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Isablcorky@aol.com)
4. 10:00 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Dave Abramson)
5. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: From print to jig...how? (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
6. 11:17 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (JERRY GROGAN)
7. 11:32 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
8. 11:33 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Phillips, Jack)
9. 11:40 AM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Phillips, Jack)
10. 12:00 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (TOM STINEMETZE)
11. 12:35 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (walt)
12. 01:35 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Richard Schreiber)
13. 01:38 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (HelsperSew@aol.com)
14. 01:54 PM - takeoff performance, Walt Evans (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
15. 02:45 PM - Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (Don Emch)
16. 02:52 PM - Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (walt)
17. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (gcardinal)
18. 03:21 PM - Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (Jack T. Textor)
19. 03:41 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Ryan Mueller)
20. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (Kirk Huizenga)
21. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (walt)
22. 05:35 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Skip Gadd)
23. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (gcardinal)
24. 06:46 PM - Re: No clamps on ribs? (Glenn Thomas)
25. 07:10 PM - Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (Don Emch)
26. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
27. 09:16 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (Ryan Mueller)
28. 09:22 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (walt)
29. 09:26 PM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (gcardinal)
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
I started a prototype rib just to get familular with procedures and methods. I
bought some Craftsman, 3/4" mini clamps to hold the gussets. I see on the T-88
bottles it states to use minimal clamping force as too much clamping will starve
the joint. I believe these clamps are too tight. I am thinking about finger
pressing the gussets in place and let set...no clamps. What say you?
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
Mike,
This is what I did; see my site for more pictures.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
Get some coated nails, a comfortable sized long nosed pliers, a good heavy
headed small hammer and forget about clamps.
Nathan and Levi
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
Remember, you want ALL the ribs identical!!! Use blocks over rib dwg. to
hold all the wood. I even cut 2 pieces of my spar and put them on my rib
print. Then used the glue coated nails from ACS, small spring loaded needle
nose pliers. and small hammer and nailed the gussets down. Let dry over
night.... then do other side. 1 rib per day.......... got-em done in no
time.
dave
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael Perez
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:35 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
I started a prototype rib just to get familular with procedures and
methods. I bought some Craftsman, 3/4" mini clamps to hold the gussets. I
see on the T-88 bottles it states to use minimal clamping force as too much
clamping will starve the joint. I believe these clamps are too tight. I am
thinking about finger pressing the gussets in place and let set...no clamps.
What say you?
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| Subject: | Re: From print to jig...how? |
Go raid your wife's dressmaking supplies, you are looking for a "tick wheel"
its a little handle with a thin wheel on it with notches, it is used for
transferring a dress pattern to material, we use colored wax transfer papers
between the patterns and the cloth and trace with the tick wheel, it leaves
colored dotted lines on the cloth.
Use carbon paper instead. Any fabric store should sell tick wheels for less
the $2.
Regards, Chrissi
(fabricating our Cozy engine cowls now)
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
The clamps that Jack used work good if the ply pcs are made a little big
so you can route off the excess. Because the Plywood can move around a
little from the pressure from the clamp if the clamp is not on straight.
But you can glue two sides at once. When we build ribs we do one side at
a time and use 2 pound weights on each pc of ply wood. Its about the
right amount of pressure. You still have to make the ply pcs a little
big on the outside of the rib so you can route them off for a very nice
finished product.
Jerry Grogan
Sky Classic Aircraft
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
Mike,
This is what I did; see my site for more pictures.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
Them damned southern boys always got to copy us yankees.....
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Isablcorky@aol.com <Isablcorky@aol.com> wrote:
From: Isablcorky@aol.com <Isablcorky@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
Get some coated nails, a comfortable sized long nosed pliers, a good heavy
headed small hammer and forget about clamps.
Nathan and Levi
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
Like Nathan (or is it Corky?) said, use the AN501 nails from AS&S and just
nail the little suckers down. For Resorcinol you need the nails spaced clo
sely together (about every =BD" to =BE") but for T-88 just one at each corn
er is sufficient. Or staple them down and remove the staples later. Don't
obsess over it.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JERRY GROGAN
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
The clamps that Jack used work good if the ply pcs are made a little big so
you can route off the excess. Because the Plywood can move around a little
from the pressure from the clamp if the clamp is not on straight. But you
can glue two sides at once. When we build ribs we do one side at a time and
use 2 pound weights on each pc of ply wood. Its about the right amount of
pressure. You still have to make the ply pcs a little big on the outside of
the rib so you can route them off for a very nice finished product.
Jerry Grogan
Sky Classic Aircraft
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor <mailto:jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
Mike,
This is what I did; see my site for more pictures.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
Copy, Hell - I notice you Yankees are still using needle-nose pliers,
when any good Southerner knows to go to Radio Shack and get some of
those little spring-loaded electronics probes for 99 cents. You just
squeeze the plunger and a little hook extends from the probe. You hook
that over the nail then release the plunger and the nail is held
securely whilst you whop it into place with a tack hammer.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
But born and raised in Tennessee
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide,
BA, CPO, FAAOP
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
Them damned southern boys always got to copy us yankees.....
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Isablcorky@aol.com <Isablcorky@aol.com> wrote:
From: Isablcorky@aol.com <Isablcorky@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
Get some coated nails, a comfortable sized long nosed pliers, a good
heavy headed small hammer and forget about clamps.
Nathan and Levi
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
I wish I'd have read about those spring-loaded electronics probes before
I whopped the dickens (technical term) out of my fingers nailing my
gussets in place.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS - neither North, South, East or West according to the
weather people. (central being somewhere between Chicago and New York)
>>> "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com> 8/20/2008 1:40
PM >>>
Copy, Hell I notice you Yankees are still using needle-nose pliers,
when any good Southerner knows to go to Radio Shack and get some of
those little spring-loaded electronics probes for 99 cents. You just
squeeze the plunger and a little hook extends from the probe. You hook
that over the nail then release the plunger and the nail is held
securely whilst you whop it into place with a tack hammer.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
But born and raised in Tennessee
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
I'm with Corky,
Use aircraft nails, but I used a tack hammer.
Magnet on one tip to pick up the nail, then with a little practice, set
the nail and turn the hammer over, and hammer home.
Nothing flew off yet.
PS I'm 210# and took up a 190#'er. with 10 gallons aboard.
Next plan is to take me and a 230#'er up.
No white knuckles so far
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
Get some coated nails, a comfortable sized long nosed pliers, a good
heavy headed small hammer and forget about clamps.
Nathan and Levi
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
It has been mentioned before, but probably bears repeating. What I used was light
weight staples. Buy a light weight staple gun and use either 1/4" staples (on
1/16" gussets) or 3/16" on thicker gussets. After the adhesive cures, use small
end nippers to grip and remove the staples. I also used aircraft nails and
nailing strips on thicker plywood surfaces such as the fuselage sides. Once
you get a system down using the hand staple gun works real well. I think I picked
up my gun at Home Depot for less than $10 and 1,000 staples only costs a couple
of bucks.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
Sent: 8/20/2008 2:06:19 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
I wish I'd have read about those spring-loaded electronics probes before I whopped
the dickens (technical term) out of my fingers nailing my gussets in place.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS - neither North, South, East or West according to the weather people.
(central being somewhere between Chicago and New York)
>>> "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com> 8/20/2008 1:40 PM >>>
Copy, Hell I notice you Yankees are still using needle-nose pliers, when any
good Southerner knows to go to Radio Shack and get some of those little spring-loaded
electronics probes for 99 cents. You just squeeze the plunger and a little
hook extends from the probe. You hook that over the nail then release the
plunger and the nail is held securely whilst you whop it into place with a
tack hammer.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
But born and raised in Tennessee
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
Use nails, and a wire-stripping pliers, with the small serrations in the
jaws, to hold the nail straight.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
PS I'm 210# and took up a 190#'er. with 10 gallons aboard. Next plan
is to take me and a 230#'er up.
Walt--that is AMAZING. You've got a 65hp right ? Can I ask things
like your runway length, obstacle heights at runway
ends, were there any winds, and what was the OAT ? I used to be able
to take 200 pound passengers when my engine
was tight but now....not so much. I wait until I get a nice 70 F day
with some wind down the runway and then still
restrict my passenger weight to around 160, 170 max. My empty weight
is 632lbs.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Mike,
I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about 180lbs. I've
gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's Brodhead trip this year he carried
himself and Nigel Hitchman on a couple of flights. One of which was for
a TP cutting routine out of the hayfield. I would imagine that makes for a total
passenger weight of about 430lbs or so. A bit much for my taste, but they
seemed to make out just fine. Don't really know other conditions.
Don Emch
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Mike,
Yeah A-65
With the 190'er aboard I cleared the end of the 2500' runway at probably
300'. Not really any trees at the end. Just a lake in this direction.
It was a coolish morning, mayby 75 deg.
My fear is not making the trees, only that the engine won't quit.
Knock on wood, it hasn't burped yet.
This Youtube,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLrIDeDLR48
was last year, of me taking my friend Don, who's mayby 170/180 up in the
AM.
The runway is 2500' and we started at the end, not using the 500' grass
end. You can see how we did.
One BIG thing that I've found,,Is that with the P factor on the A-65,
It's textbook.
Have to hold right rudder on climbout.
I built my plane and engine mount right to the print. Except about 1
3/4" longer.
So it should fly like all the rest.
If you watch the ball on climbout, you see that by "stepping on the
ball" the climb increases, and all around performance goes up.
"step on the ball"
"step on the ball"
Just a note,,,
After I took Don flying, He persued his dream of taking glider lessons.
Ironically he is taking lessons from the guy who first showed me his
Fisher Celibrity, uncovered, on the gear, and I fell in love with
building a wooded airplane.
And my second project was my Piet, which I'm flying now.
Hopefully I was the inspiration for that!
Ain't Life Grand!
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
PS I'm 210# and took up a 190#'er. with 10 gallons aboard. Next
plan is to take me and a 230#'er up.
Walt--that is AMAZING. You've got a 65hp right ? Can I ask
things like your runway length, obstacle heights at runway
ends, were there any winds, and what was the OAT ? I used to be
able to take 200 pound passengers when my engine
was tight but now....not so much. I wait until I get a nice 70 F day
with some wind down the runway and then still
restrict my passenger weight to around 160, 170 max. My empty
weight is 632lbs.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies very nicely
on an 80 degree evening.
Here is the view on short final.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>
> Mike,
>
> I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about 180lbs.
> I've gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's Brodhead trip this
> year he carried himself and Nigel Hitchman on a couple of flights. One of
> which was for a TP cutting routine out of the hayfield. I would imagine
> that makes for a total passenger weight of about 430lbs or so. A bit much
> for my taste, but they seemed to make out just fine. Don't really know
> other conditions.
>
> Don Emch
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703
>
>
>
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| Subject: | takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Nice video Walt. While there I noticed the video by Grant McClaren,
Simple Light and Cheap, also a great video, about 4 minutes.
See it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ch9QhwyBY&NR=1
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
Jess says: "For me, at the wing rib building workshop at Oshkosh, using a
stapler to attach the gussets got me a finished rib far quicker than sitting
around yakking about it. Gentleman start your staplers! ;) "
Ryan
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> I started a prototype rib just to get familular with procedures and
> methods. I bought some Craftsman, 3/4" mini clamps to hold the gussets. I
> see on the T-88 bottles it states to use minimal clamping force as too much
> clamping will starve the joint. I believe these clamps are too tight. I am
> thinking about finger pressing the gussets in place and let set...no clamps.
> What say you?
>
> **
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Greg,
Is that Stanton?
Kirk
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:07 PM, gcardinal wrote:
> With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies
> very nicely on an 80 degree evening.
> Here is the view on short final.
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:44 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>
>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about
>> 180lbs. I've gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's
>> Brodhead trip this year he carried himself and Nigel Hitchman on a
>> couple of flights. One of which was for a TP cutting routine out
>> of the hayfield. I would imagine that makes for a total passenger
>> weight of about 430lbs or so. A bit much for my taste, but they
>> seemed to make out just fine. Don't really know other conditions.
>>
>> Don Emch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> <Short Final.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
nice picture!
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
> With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies very
> nicely
> on an 80 degree evening.
> Here is the view on short final.
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:44 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>
>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about 180lbs.
>> I've gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's Brodhead trip this
>> year he carried himself and Nigel Hitchman on a couple of flights. One
>> of
>> which was for a TP cutting routine out of the hayfield. I would imagine
>> that makes for a total passenger weight of about 430lbs or so. A bit
>> much
>> for my taste, but they seemed to make out just fine. Don't really know
>> other conditions.
>>
>> Don Emch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | No clamps on ribs? |
Charlie Rubeck who made over 5000 Piet and GN-1 ribs used ether an office stapler
with the bottom anvil part removed or nothing. He would use finger pressure
till the glue suction took over. When you use the no clamp method there can be
no stress in the joint trying to lift the gusset up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
Sent: 8/20/2008 11:41:26 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: No clamps on ribs?
I started a prototype rib just to get familular with procedures and methods. I
bought some Craftsman, 3/4" mini clamps to hold the gussets. I see on the T-88
bottles it states to use minimal clamping force as too much clamping will starve
the joint. I believe these clamps are too tight. I am thinking about finger
pressing the gussets in place and let set...no clamps. What say you?
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Yes, it is Stanton (SYN) on a Sunday evening about a week and a half ago.
Gave rides to five teenagers. They all loved it.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Huizenga" <kirkh1@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>
> Greg,
>
> Is that Stanton?
>
> Kirk
> On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:07 PM, gcardinal wrote:
>
>> With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies very
>> nicely on an 80 degree evening.
>> Here is the view on short final.
>>
>> Greg Cardinal
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about
>>> 180lbs. I've gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's Brodhead
>>> trip this year he carried himself and Nigel Hitchman on a couple of
>>> flights. One of which was for a TP cutting routine out of the
>>> hayfield. I would imagine that makes for a total passenger weight of
>>> about 430lbs or so. A bit much for my taste, but they seemed to make
>>> out just fine. Don't really know other conditions.
>>>
>>> Don Emch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> <Short Final.jpg>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: No clamps on ribs? |
Since everyone is going suggesting nails and you asked about clamps, and I used
clamps, thought I would chime in. The clamps barely need to supply any pressure.
I made mine very adjustable. The benefit of clamps is I can flip mine on
and off the gussets easily. After the glue is applied to both the capstrip
and the gussets I can pop all the gussets in place and be done with them in a
matter of a couple of minutes. Saved me a lot of time in the long run. Of course
the jig is a little over-engineered and took longer to make but made up the
time in building all the ribs and I think they came out exactly as I planned.
Here's a few links...
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=16&filter=0
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=8&filter=0
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=6&filter=0
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=12&filter=0
Leave a little overhang on the gusset and trim off later with a router and flush
trim bit.
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=17&filter=0
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199750#199750
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Greg,
Wow what a beautiful strip. I wish they made them like that in Northeast Ohio.
With some of my landings I could sure use nice wide flat runways like that!!!!
Don Emch
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199755#199755
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Greg.........
-
It is now my screen savior.........
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
<EmchAir@aol.com>
Greg,
Wow what a beautiful strip. I wish they made them like that in Northeast O
hio.
With some of my landings I could sure use nice wide flat runways like that
!!!!
Don Emch
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199755#199755
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Greg,
By any chance do you have a higher resolution picture available (something
at or above 1280x1024). We could use a big picture of heaven for our
desktop. Something to put in rotation with Jack's Piet over the river, and
Mike C on the way to Brodhead.
Have a good evening,
Ryan
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
> With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies very
> nicely on an 80 degree evening.
> Here is the view on short final.
>
> Greg Cardinal
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
Guess you guys never heard the phrase, "yeah, just follow the ridge"
:^)
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>
> Yes, it is Stanton (SYN) on a Sunday evening about a week and a half ago.
> Gave rides to five teenagers. They all loved it.
>
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk Huizenga" <kirkh1@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>
>
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> Is that Stanton?
>>
>> Kirk
>> On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:07 PM, gcardinal wrote:
>>
>>> With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies very
>>> nicely on an 80 degree evening.
>>> Here is the view on short final.
>>>
>>> Greg Cardinal
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:44 PM
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>>
>>>> I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about
>>>> 180lbs. I've gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's Brodhead
>>>> trip this year he carried himself and Nigel Hitchman on a couple of
>>>> flights. One of which was for a TP cutting routine out of the
>>>> hayfield. I would imagine that makes for a total passenger weight of
>>>> about 430lbs or so. A bit much for my taste, but they seemed to make
>>>> out just fine. Don't really know other conditions.
>>>>
>>>> Don Emch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Short Final.jpg>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans |
The original is 3872 X 2592
2.51 mb
Send request off line.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans
Greg,
By any chance do you have a higher resolution picture available
(something at or above 1280x1024). We could use a big picture of heaven
for our desktop. Something to put in rotation with Jack's Piet over the
river, and Mike C on the way to Brodhead.
Have a good evening,
Ryan
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>
wrote:
With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies
very nicely on an 80 degree evening.
Here is the view on short final.
Greg Cardinal
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