---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/23/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans (amsafetyc@aol.com) 2. 09:39 AM - Re: Walnut shell blasting (Joser) 3. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Walnut shell blasting (Kip and Beth Gardner) 4. 01:27 PM - Re: Walnut shell blasting (Joser) 5. 05:33 PM - extruded vs. rolled hinges (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 06:31 PM - Re: extruded vs. rolled hinges (Tim White) 7. 07:22 PM - Re: extruded vs. rolled hinges (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans From: amsafetyc@aol.com Wow that's a familiar phrase, especially when looking for Williamson Pa airport and the FSS John ------Original Message------ From: walt Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Aug 21, 2008 12:21 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans Guess you guys never heard the phrase, "yeah, just follow the ridge" :^) walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "gcardinal" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans > > Yes, it is Stanton (SYN) on a Sunday evening about a week and a half ago. > Gave rides to five teenagers. They all loved it. > > Greg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk Huizenga" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans > > >> >> Greg, >> >> Is that Stanton? >> >> Kirk >> On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:07 PM, gcardinal wrote: >> >>> With a 200# pilot, 160# passenger and 85# of fuel, NX18235 flies very >>> nicely on an 80 degree evening. >>> Here is the view on short final. >>> >>> Greg Cardinal >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:44 PM >>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: takeoff performance, Walt Evans >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> I regularly carry my Dad. He is about 225lbs. or so. I go about >>>> 180lbs. I've gone with full fuel several times. On Andrew's Brodhead >>>> trip this year he carried himself and Nigel Hitchman on a couple of >>>> flights. One of which was for a TP cutting routine out of the >>>> hayfield. I would imagine that makes for a total passenger weight of >>>> about 430lbs or so. A bit much for my taste, but they seemed to make >>>> out just fine. Don't really know other conditions. >>>> >>>> Don Emch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199703#199703 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Walnut shell blasting From: "Joser" Thanks Ryan, I will send these heads out and will take your advise to hand scrub the case. This one is going flying and I will be behind it, the one that I have in the rail (VW) only flies for a couple of seconds and then we are back in the bumps! I am having a blast doing this one but I really want all the input from my fellow builders, I am not into re-inventing the wheel. Thanks you for all your help, Joser. -------- Jose R. Soto Apopka, Florida Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0096#200096 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:08 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Walnut shell blasting Jose, For what it's worth, I got good results scrubbing the case with a 1:1 mix of kerosene and MEK in a plastic tote big enough to hold one case half. I used a stiff, nonmetallic brush & all the oily gunk & "varnishy'" stuff just kind of melted off - left a very nice, shiny case. Kip On Aug 23, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Joser wrote: > > Thanks Ryan, I will send these heads out and will take your advise > to hand scrub the case. This one is going flying and I will be > behind it, the one that I have in the rail (VW) only flies for a > couple of seconds and then we are back in the bumps! I am having a > blast doing this one but I really want all the input from my fellow > builders, I am not into re-inventing the wheel. Thanks you for all > your help, Joser. > > -------- > Jose R. Soto > Apopka, Florida > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0096#200096 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Walnut shell blasting From: "Joser" Kip, thanks for the great tip! -------- Jose R. Soto Apopka, Florida Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0132#200132 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:29 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: extruded vs. rolled hinges Well, I rolled 41CC out of the hangar this afternoon, dreading what I would find when I checked to see what type of piano hinges Corky used on the ailerons. The light of day revealed rolled hinges and my heart sank (sunk?). I was so disappointed, so fearful that the airplane is unsafe, that I fired up the engine and went out to fly! Folks, the airplane flies just fine with rolled hinges. There are a couple of feet of hinge on each side, and if you get flutter going so badly that the hinges open up enough to cut the aileron loose, you've got more to worry about than losing an aileron. I was so dismayed, in fact, that I flew out to Castroville to top off with fuel and then set out to the west, to Hondo. On the way, I attacked and took out the old steel railroad bridge that crosses the creek. Just to make sure that the supply trains didn't make it past the bridge somehow, I went ahead and strafed the long train that was making the loop on the tracks that go around Dunlay on Hwy. 90, and the one behind it coming out of Hondo. They must have sent word that I was coming in to Hondo because when I landed, there was not a single solitary soul to be found, nobody came out to even watch me land, so I never even shut down... I taxied back out and made an intersection takeoff and they all stayed hidden till I left. I'll tell you, the sight of 41CC and the roar of the 65 send them scattering for cover. I'll have to scout that bridge again soon to make sure they don't rebuild it, and if they do... look out! Peace reigns over the San Geronimo landscape, and Steve Dortch's newly-painted red Suburban got a little wash job a while later as a squall line passed over our little runway. The airplane with the rolled hinges was safely in the hangar. Don't worry about the hinges. Go fly! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:46 PM PST US From: "Tim White" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: extruded vs. rolled hinges Wonderful! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: extruded vs. rolled hinges > > > Well, I rolled 41CC out of the hangar this afternoon, dreading what I > would find when I checked to see what type of piano hinges Corky used on > the ailerons. The light of day revealed rolled hinges and my heart sank > (sunk?). I was so disappointed, so fearful that the airplane is unsafe, > that I fired up the engine and went out to fly! > > Folks, the airplane flies just fine with rolled hinges. There are a > couple of feet of hinge on each side, and if you get flutter going so > badly that the hinges open up enough to cut the aileron loose, you've got > more to worry about than losing an aileron. > > I was so dismayed, in fact, that I flew out to Castroville to top off with > fuel and then set out to the west, to Hondo. On the way, I attacked and > took out the old steel railroad bridge that crosses the creek. Just to > make sure that the supply trains didn't make it past the bridge somehow, I > went ahead and strafed the long train that was making the loop on the > tracks that go around Dunlay on Hwy. 90, and the one behind it coming out > of Hondo. They must have sent word that I was coming in to Hondo because > when I landed, there was not a single solitary soul to be found, nobody > came out to even watch me land, so I never even shut down... I taxied back > out and made an intersection takeoff and they all stayed hidden till I > left. I'll tell you, the sight of 41CC and the roar of the 65 send them > scattering for cover. I'll have to scout that bridge again soon to make > sure they don't rebuild it, and if they do... look out! > > Peace reigns over the San Geronimo landscape, and Steve Dortch's > newly-painted red Suburban got a little wash job a while later as a squall > line passed over our little runway. The airplane with the rolled hinges > was safely in the hangar. > > Don't worry about the hinges. Go fly! > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:58 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: extruded vs. rolled hinges Good one! When you think about how much metal is in that piano hinge and how much less is in the original strap hinges, well, there shouldn't be any question. Right? :-) Forget that wimpy smoke stuff; http://nieuports.com/index.asp?page=accessories http://www.foxflier.com/lewis/lewis.htm http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org/machine-gun.htm Clif On the way, I attacked and took out the old steel railroad bridge that crosses the creek. Just to make sure that the supply trains didn't make it past the bridge somehow, I went ahead and strafed the long train that was making the loop on the tracks that go around Dunlay on Hwy. 90, and the one behind it coming out of Hondo. > Don't worry about the hinges. Go fly! > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.