Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 08/30/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 07:59 AM - Re: Pietenpol-- Front Cockpit cover (Tim Willis)
     2. 09:15 AM - Turnbuckles (skellytown flyer)
     3. 04:58 PM - Turnbuckles (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 05:15 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (walt)
     5. 05:30 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (Gary Boothe)
     6. 05:45 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (Michael Silvius)
     7. 06:34 PM - Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 (Dick Navratil)
     8. 06:43 PM - cowling (airlion@bellsouth.net)
     9. 08:32 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (amsafetyc@aol.com)
    10. 09:47 PM - Minimum changes from original plans? (charles loomis)
    11. 11:50 PM - Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:59:35 AM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol-- Front Cockpit cover
    Chuck Gantzer did an aluminum cover on his front cockpit for his large cross-country trip to the east coast and circling way back to KS. He would likely share drawings, but I know he has been inactive, instead busy building his Tailwind. (FYI, he also removed his front windshield for extended cross-country, but took it with him in the front pit.) My winter flying accommodation will be long pants. Of course, we don't have winter-- only summer and 3 months of "other." Tim in central TX


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    Time: 09:15:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Turnbuckles
    From: "skellytown flyer" <rhano@att.net>
    I am getting my Piet rigged up and want to use the larger 1/4" thread turnbuckles in the wing strut cross brace cables.I know it may be overkill but I am going to use 1/8" cables and cannot see using the light ones there since it will be a somewhat redundant wing load path with the aluminum struts.I have 3 short and one long 1/4" barrel and 4 short left hand cable eyes for them. I would like to buy 4 short 1?4" thread right hand forkends and maybe a short barrel if I could find it.anybody got some they would sell me? I'd appreciate a e-mail off-line or whatever.Raymond.Skellytown,TX. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1615#201615


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    Time: 04:58:43 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Turnbuckles
    Raymond; I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for the braces). Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the airplane. Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95 MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy, nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance for my airplane. Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about. I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 05:15:53 PM PST US
    From: "walt" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Turnbuckles
    Hey Oscar, Looks like Corky built a pretty tuff airplane.. Sure hope he makes it thru the big blow comming his way. do not archive walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles > > > Raymond; > > I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put > the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are > 1/8" and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane > braces, the aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on > the airplane except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller > (smaller cable for the braces). > > Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and > despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched > the airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely > smooth and I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on > and dropped down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell > off the airplane. > > Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their > boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to > Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline > (95 MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime > bumpy, nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max > performance for my airplane. > > Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was > laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck > me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get > calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and > there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet > Labor Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about. > > I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > >


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    Time: 05:30:35 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Turnbuckles
    Oscar, ...love your pilot reports! Me? After a few honey-do's, I had a good day working on metal parts... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (11 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles Raymond; I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for the braces). Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the airplane. Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95 MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy, nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance for my airplane. Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about. I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 05:45:00 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Silvius" <silvius@gwi.net>
    Subject: Re: Turnbuckles
    Mr. You sure have a sweet way of spinning a yarn. got to love that. Kinky Friedman aint got nuthing on ya!! :-) Michael in Maine Who got 2 hrs of Bonanza B36TC time in the clouds today, loads of bells and whistles and dials lights undecipherable menus and flight directors and techy stuff with coupled approaches and sharp barking controllers from the Boston class B upside-down wedding cake all at 18 gph. Thank god I did not have to pay for it either. I did wear my Pientenpol hat though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles > > > Raymond; > > I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for the braces). > > Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the airplane. > > Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95 MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy, nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance for my airplane. > > Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about. > > I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 06:34:10 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200
    Jonathan When a post like yous goes unanswered for a couple of days, it's not that you are being ignored. It is a collective, "I don't know and don't feel qualified to comment". I do know that an A-65 mounts differently than an O-200, but I have no further info on that. I also don't know about a C-90. You need to talk with an A&I who works with those models. Good luck Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Ragle To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 Do these all use the same engine mount? Anyone know roughly the dimensional difference? Jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows=AE. Game with Windows


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    Time: 06:43:59 PM PST US
    From: airlion@bellsouth.net
    Subject: cowling


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    Time: 08:32:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Turnbuckles
    From: amsafetyc@aol.com
    Sounds perfect John ------Original Message------ From: Oscar Zuniga Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Aug 30, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles Raymond; I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for the braces). Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the airplane. Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95 MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy, nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance for my airplane. Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about. I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 09:47:40 PM PST US
    From: charles loomis <rameses32@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Minimum changes from original plans?
    What are the minimum changes recomended for safety from the original plans? I am building the steel fuselage, mild steel, Model A engine, Aircraft grade Hoop pine, and marine plywood, and original Jenny style landing gear, and three piece wing. The only changes I could think of was a stearable tail wheel, and 4-point harnesses, besides some minor engine changes, such as Aluminium head, different carby, and inscerts instead of babbits. Charley


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    Time: 11:50:25 PM PST US
    From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200
    Jonathan, This information came from Ron Wanttaja's Fly Baby page: http://www.bowersflybaby.com/ Another influential homebuilt, and a very informative website. He says the engine info came from Harry Fenton, who was/is an A&P who posted to their mailing list. ---------------------------------- Motor Mount Adaptability Question: I'm now looking at a KR2 with a C65 engine which means hand-propping <frown>. The external looks prettygood (in the picture) and should be getting some interior pics and answers to lots of other questions soon. I do like having the Continental motor. Do you happen to know if the motor mount for a C65 will work with a C85 or 0200? I'd like to work towards the engine with a starter and more HP if possible. Answer: The motor mount for the A-65 and C85 series is the same in that conical rubber bushings are used. As such, the overall dimensions from the engine mount lugs on the engine to the prop flange shaft remain the same. The C-90-12, -14, 16 and O-200 have different mounts and the lugs are set further forward on the engine case. These engines can be mounted on the A-65 mount but require about a 2" spacer to position the prop flange in the same location as the A-65. the C-85-12 will be your best choice for a low-hassle installation. That's what I was able to find thus far. Maybe that will help give you an idea. Ryan On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Jonathan Ragle <jon95gt@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Do these all use the same engine mount? Anyone know roughly the dimensional difference? > > > Jonathan




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