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1. 07:59 AM - Re: Pietenpol-- Front Cockpit cover (Tim Willis)
2. 09:15 AM - Turnbuckles (skellytown flyer)
3. 04:58 PM - Turnbuckles (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 05:15 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (walt)
5. 05:30 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (Gary Boothe)
6. 05:45 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (Michael Silvius)
7. 06:34 PM - Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 (Dick Navratil)
8. 06:43 PM - cowling (airlion@bellsouth.net)
9. 08:32 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (amsafetyc@aol.com)
10. 09:47 PM - Minimum changes from original plans? (charles loomis)
11. 11:50 PM - Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 (Ryan Mueller)
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-- Front Cockpit cover |
Chuck Gantzer did an aluminum cover on his front cockpit for his large cross-country
trip to the east coast and circling way back to KS. He would likely share
drawings, but I know he has been inactive, instead busy building his Tailwind.
(FYI, he also removed his front windshield for extended cross-country, but
took it with him in the front pit.)
My winter flying accommodation will be long pants. Of course, we don't have winter--
only summer and 3 months of "other."
Tim in central TX
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I am getting my Piet rigged up and want to use the larger 1/4" thread turnbuckles
in the wing strut cross brace cables.I know it may be overkill but I am going
to use 1/8" cables and cannot see using the light ones there since it will
be a somewhat redundant wing load path with the aluminum struts.I have 3 short
and one long 1/4" barrel and 4 short left hand cable eyes for them. I would like
to buy 4 short 1?4" thread right hand forkends and maybe a short barrel if
I could find it.anybody got some they would sell me? I'd appreciate a e-mail
off-line or whatever.Raymond.Skellytown,TX.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1615#201615
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Raymond;
I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the calipers
on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and the
turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the aileron
cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane except the tail
brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for the braces).
Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and despite
the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the airplane
off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and I came back
around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped down to the grass
at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the airplane.
Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their boats, skis,
jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to Medina River Ranch,
a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95 MPH on this airplane).
Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy, nothing to really
stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance for my airplane.
Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was laying down
bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck me as odd but
I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get calm. Landed on
the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and there, and put the airplane
away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor Day flying. This is what
Pietenpoling is all about.
I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Hey Oscar,
Looks like Corky built a pretty tuff airplane..
Sure hope he makes it thru the big blow comming his way.
do not archive
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
>
>
> Raymond;
>
> I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put
> the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are
> 1/8" and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane
> braces, the aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on
> the airplane except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller
> (smaller cable for the braces).
>
> Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and
> despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched
> the airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely
> smooth and I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on
> and dropped down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell
> off the airplane.
>
> Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their
> boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to
> Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline
> (95 MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime
> bumpy, nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max
> performance for my airplane.
>
> Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was
> laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck
> me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get
> calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and
> there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet
> Labor Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about.
>
> I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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Oscar,
...love your pilot reports!
Me? After a few honey-do's, I had a good day working on metal parts...
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(11 ribs down.)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
Raymond;
I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the
calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and
the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the
aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane
except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for
the braces).
Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and
despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the
airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and
I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped
down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the
airplane.
Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their
boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to
Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95
MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy,
nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance
for my airplane.
Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was
laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck
me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get
calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and
there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor
Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about.
I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Mr. You sure have a sweet way of spinning a yarn.
got to love that.
Kinky Friedman aint got nuthing on ya!!
:-)
Michael in Maine
Who got 2 hrs of Bonanza B36TC time in the clouds today, loads of bells and
whistles and dials lights undecipherable menus and flight directors and
techy stuff with coupled approaches and sharp barking controllers from the
Boston class B upside-down wedding cake all at 18 gph. Thank god I did not
have to pay for it either. I did wear my Pientenpol hat though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
>
>
> Raymond;
>
> I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put
the calipers on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8"
and the turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the
aileron cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane
except the tail brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for
the braces).
>
> Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and
despite the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the
airplane off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and
I came back around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped
down to the grass at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the
airplane.
>
> Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their
boats, skis, jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to
Medina River Ranch, a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95
MPH on this airplane). Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy,
nothing to really stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance
for my airplane.
>
> Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was
laying down bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck
me as odd but I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get
calm. Landed on the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and
there, and put the airplane away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor
Day flying. This is what Pietenpoling is all about.
>
> I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 |
Jonathan
When a post like yous goes unanswered for a couple of days, it's not
that you are being ignored. It is a collective, "I don't know and don't
feel qualified to comment".
I do know that an A-65 mounts differently than an O-200, but I have no
further info on that. I also don't know about a C-90.
You need to talk with an A&I who works with those models.
Good luck
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Ragle
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200
Do these all use the same engine mount? Anyone know roughly the
dimensional difference? Jonathan
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Sounds perfect
John
------Original Message------
From: Oscar Zuniga
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Aug 30, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
Raymond;
I was out at the hangar this afternoon to work on a few things and I put the calipers
on the turnbuckles on 41CC. All the strut brace wires are 1/8" and the
turnbuckle ends are 1/8". So are the ones on the cabane braces, the aileron
cables, elevator cables, and most everything else on the airplane except the tail
brace wires, which are one size smaller (smaller cable for the braces).
Being worried that all of those turnbuckles might be a danger to me, and despite
the 90 degree x-wind at San Geronimo this afternoon, I launched the airplane
off the grass and flew it. The takeoff was exquisitely smooth and I came back
around, set up a circling approach with power on and dropped down to the grass
at redline and full throttle. Nothing fell off the airplane.
Went over to Medina Lake where a great many people were enjoying their boats, skis,
jet-skis, and probably quite a few beers. Continued on to Medina River Ranch,
a grass strip, and made a high-speed pass at redline (95 MPH on this airplane).
Nothing came apart again. It was summertime bumpy, nothing to really
stress the airplane, but it was close to max performance for my airplane.
Returned to my home field and passed over an aerial applicator who was laying down
bug juice perpendicular to the prevailing breeze, which struck me as odd but
I guess he had a job to do and couldn't wait for it to get calm. Landed on
the grass and taxied in, wiped off the oil from here and there, and put the airplane
away with about 0.7 hours of perfect Piet Labor Day flying. This is what
Pietenpoling is all about.
I think 1/4" turnbuckles may be overkill but it's your airplane.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Subject: | Minimum changes from original plans? |
What are the minimum changes recomended for safety from the original plans?
I am building the steel fuselage, mild steel, Model A engine, Aircraft grade Hoop
pine, and marine plywood, and original Jenny style landing gear, and three
piece wing. The only changes I could think of was a stearable tail wheel, and
4-point harnesses, besides some minor engine changes, such as Aluminium head,
different carby, and inscerts instead of babbits.
Charley
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Subject: | Re: A65 vs. C90 vs. O-200 |
Jonathan,
This information came from Ron Wanttaja's Fly Baby page:
http://www.bowersflybaby.com/
Another influential homebuilt, and a very informative website. He says the
engine info came from Harry Fenton, who was/is an A&P who posted to their
mailing list.
----------------------------------
Motor Mount Adaptability
Question:
I'm now looking at a KR2 with a C65 engine which means hand-propping
<frown>. The external looks prettygood (in the picture) and should be
getting some interior pics and answers to lots of other questions soon. I do
like having the Continental motor. Do you happen to know if the motor mount
for a C65 will work with a C85 or 0200? I'd like to work towards the engine
with a starter and more HP if possible.
Answer:
The motor mount for the A-65 and C85 series is the same in that conical
rubber bushings are used. As such, the overall dimensions from the engine
mount lugs on the engine to the prop flange shaft remain the same. The
C-90-12, -14, 16 and O-200 have different mounts and the lugs are set
further forward on the engine case. These engines can be mounted on the
A-65 mount but require about a 2" spacer to position the prop flange in the
same location as the A-65. the C-85-12 will be your best choice for a
low-hassle installation.
That's what I was able to find thus far. Maybe that will help give you an
idea.
Ryan
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Jonathan Ragle <jon95gt@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Do these all use the same engine mount? Anyone know roughly the
dimensional difference?
>
>
> Jonathan
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