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1. 03:35 AM - Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts (HelsperSew@aol.com)
2. 04:27 AM - Re: Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts (gcardinal)
3. 04:34 AM - Re: Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts (Phillips, Jack)
4. 05:36 AM - Brodhead 2009 (Lawrence Williams)
5. 05:42 AM - Kurt Shipman's Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 05:46 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (Phillips, Jack)
7. 06:40 AM - Re: New Piet pics (Jonathan Ragle)
8. 07:02 AM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (Ryan Mueller)
9. 07:28 AM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (TOM STINEMETZE)
10. 07:49 AM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (Ryan Mueller)
11. 08:04 AM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 08:21 AM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (HelsperSew@aol.com)
13. 08:33 AM - Corvair Cowls (Gary Boothe)
14. 08:55 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
15. 08:57 AM - Spar on 3 piece wing plan (Michael Perez)
16. 08:58 AM - newspaper article (RBush96589@aol.com)
17. 09:04 AM - Re: Corvair Cowls (TOM STINEMETZE)
18. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Motorcycle master links (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
19. 09:36 AM - Re: Corvair Cowls (Gary Boothe)
20. 09:59 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (Barry Davis)
21. 10:13 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (Gene Rambo)
22. 10:32 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (Steve Eldredge)
23. 11:06 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (Jack T. Textor)
24. 11:16 AM - Re: Spar on 3 piece wing plan (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
25. 11:18 AM - Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
26. 11:23 AM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
27. 11:34 AM - Re: Spar on 3 piece wing plan (Jack T. Textor)
28. 11:55 AM - Re: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? (Gene Rambo)
29. 12:48 PM - Re: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
30. 01:15 PM - Re: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? (Gene Rambo)
31. 02:20 PM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (Ryan Mueller)
32. 02:27 PM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (Ryan Mueller)
33. 02:38 PM - Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet (TOM STINEMETZE)
34. 03:09 PM - Re: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? (Steve Eldredge)
35. 03:32 PM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (jimd)
36. 06:20 PM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (gcardinal)
37. 06:41 PM - Re: Brodhead 2009 (airlion@bellsouth.net)
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| Subject: | Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts |
Hi all,
I am hooking up all my control cables and primarily using clevis pins with
cotter pins for safety. Looking at those connections bothers me a little bit.
All that is between me and disaster is one little teenie weeny cotter pin. It
especially bothers me when the configuration is horizontal and not vertical,
so I don't even have the piece of mind of having gravity help me hold that
pin in there. Anybody done any different?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts |
On NX18235 all hinge pins and cable assemblies at the tail and ailerons
are secured with a clevis pin / washer / cotter pin.
Cable terminations inside the cockpit are secured with a bolt / castle
nut / cotter pin assembly.
Greg Cardinal
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From: HelsperSew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts
Hi all,
I am hooking up all my control cables and primarily using clevis pins
with cotter pins for safety. Looking at those connections bothers me a
little bit. All that is between me and disaster is one little teenie
weeny cotter pin. It especially bothers me when the configuration is
horizontal and not vertical, so I don't even have the piece of mind of
having gravity help me hold that pin in there. Anybody done any
different?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts |
Put a thin washer (AN960-10L) on the clevis pin before inserting the
cotter pin to keep rotation of the clevis from abrading the cotter pin.
If you wish, you can always replace all cotter pins during your annual
condition inspection.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HelsperSew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Clevis pins vs. clevis bolts
Hi all,
I am hooking up all my control cables and primarily using clevis pins
with cotter pins for safety. Looking at those connections bothers me a
little bit. All that is between me and disaster is one little teenie
weeny cotter pin. It especially bothers me when the configuration is
horizontal and not vertical, so I don't even have the piece of mind of
having gravity help me hold that pin in there. Anybody done any
different?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the
latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com
<http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014> .
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Speaking of 2009..that's the 80th birthday of the Pietenpol Air Camper!!! H
as there been any talk about a special celebration at B'head? How about ano
ther mass fly-in to OSH??
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I know Bill Rewey was instrumental in getting the 70th bash a reality and n
ow that we have Doc Mosher in our camp maybe he could lend his skills and n
etworking abilities to further the cause.
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Something special should happen for such a special airplane.
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Larry Williams=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Kurt Shipman's Piet |
Wow, Ryan- Kurt's airplane is a beauty! What a clean, simple cockpit. Is he in
test-flight phase, or-? And where are he and the airplane located?
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Maybe Doc Mosher could pull a few strings at EAA headquarters and get
permission for a mass fly-in of Pietenpols into OSH to land at Pioneer
Airport and be on display there.
If we can do that, I'll try to fly my Pietenpol to Brodhead again next
year.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Williams
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
Speaking of 2009..that's the 80th birthday of the Pietenpol Air
Camper!!! Has there been any talk about a special celebration at B'head?
How about another mass fly-in to OSH??
I know Bill Rewey was instrumental in getting the 70th bash a reality
and now that we have Doc Mosher in our camp maybe he could lend his
skills and networking abilities to further the cause.
Something special should happen for such a special airplane.
Larry Williams
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Wow. You never expect one to look so finished. Definately not the norm.
The wood is rediculous. Nice.
ol-list@matronics.comSubject: Pietenpol-List: New Piet pics
Well=2C I guess Matronics doesn't care for my attachments. Ah well. I uploa
ded four pics of Kurt Shipman's newly completed Pietenpol to Flickr. You ca
n see those at:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/I sent off many more
pics to Chris Tracy=2C so they should be up on Westcoastpiet sometime in t
he near future. Have a good night=2CRyan
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
I don't really have much more info on Kurt or his Piet, unfortunately. Kurt
used to flight instruct at Poplar Grove Airport a number of years ago, and I
believe he's flying for a regional airline now. William Wynne introduced him
along with the other Corvair Piet flyers at Brodhead this year, and that was
the first time I had seen him since then (or heard that he had built a
Piet). I believe he lives in Rockton, IL, which is about 25 miles from
Brodhead. I have no idea where he is keeping his Piet. I would assume he is
still flying off his 40 hrs, since he had 30 on the tach. Unfortunately we
never did run into him while we were at the airport, so I can't fill in the
details.
Ryan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wow, Ryan- Kurt's airplane is a beauty! What a clean, simple cockpit. Is
> he in test-flight phase, or-? And where are he and the airplane located?
>
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
>Wow, Ryan- Kurt's airplane is a beauty! >
I agree that Kurt's plane is a beauty. That's one of the cleanest Corvair
cowls that I have seen yet. Does anyone know if the Corvair valve cover
has to be exposed in order to be adequately cooled? It appears that
properly installed fences inside the cowl would force air through the
cylinders but leave the entire head outside of the internal airflow. Has
anyone tried a second, internal passage to cool the head but leave it
entirely inside the cowl?
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
Sorry Ryan, your last message came in blank screen.
Tom Stinemetze
>>> "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com> 9/10/2008 9:49 AM >>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
I know Kurt was building it at Poplar Grove because I talked to him. I would
assume it is still based there. He had it over at "Grassroots" fly-in (MAAC,
Midwest Antique Airplane Club, over the weekend at Brodhead.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Tom,
The Corvair can certainly be fully enclosed by cowling as in the 601's and
KR's. On the other extreme is the Corvair powered Piet that William Wynn
owned. You can see it at www.westcoastpiet.com
<http://www.westcoastpiet.com/> . Many, including myself, try to keep the
nose as slender as possible for an 'older' look.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(11 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Kurt Shipman's Piet
>Wow, Ryan- Kurt's airplane is a beauty! >
I agree that Kurt's plane is a beauty. That's one of the cleanest Corvair
cowls that I have seen yet. Does anyone know if the Corvair valve cover has
to be exposed in order to be adequately cooled? It appears that properly
installed fences inside the cowl would force air through the cylinders but
leave the entire head outside of the internal airflow. Has anyone tried a
second, internal passage to cool the head but leave it entirely inside the
cowl?
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS
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Both Doc Mosher and Bill Rewey have good connections at EAA headquarters
but as others
have said, Bill Rewey is not do e-mail or computers.
I'm sure both of those guys would be in our camp on this issue for an
80th Anniversary
Gathering of Pietenpols at Oshkosh.
Personally I'm all about it. Count me in.
Mike C. in Ohio
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| Subject: | Spar on 3 piece wing plan |
Hello list people, what is!?
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The 3 piece wing print I have shows the spar with routed sections. Is this
for both front and rear spars? Are they saying you can route both? I only s
ee one spar shown so I guess both are the exact same. Trying to get my head
around this...solid front, routed, routed rear...not sure.
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| Subject: | newspaper article |
hey Gene and Jack,
thanks for the congrats. on the jackson sun article. and yes Jack I know
Wimpy, he did some work on our 150 and also does all the annuals on a friends
150 that flies off the same strip that I use.he is a good guy.
keep working on your wife for next years Brodhead trip.
Randy Bush
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Cowls |
>>> "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> 9/10/2008 10:31 AM >>>
>>>Many, including myself, try to keep the nose as slender as possible
for an older look.>>>
Gary:
True but others, like myself, want a newer look so that observers don't
see how old the pilot is.
Tom Stinemetze
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| Subject: | Re: Motorcycle master links |
Up here in god's fly over cold country....Fleet Farm has every kind of chai
n and chain links if you have one of these stores close by. Orders anyone?
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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--- On Tue, 9/9/08, charles loomis <rameses32@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: charles loomis <rameses32@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Motorcycle master links
<rameses32@yahoo.com>
Actually there are, go to a farm machinery dealer, I can't tell you what
type of machinery, but I do know they exist. Also check out some Half links
, I
bet there are some uses them as well.
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
> From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Motorcycle master links
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:59 AM
> Dick,
>
> I don't think there is such a thing as a cotter pin
> master link. But there
> are drilled AN393 clevis pins. You will need to determine
> the length you
> need, based on the application you have.
> Get some #50 roller chain (this chain has pins that are on
> 5/8" centers) ,
> and disassemble the chain into little bits. The only part
> you will want is
> the flat outer links (these are about 0.08" thick).
> These links have holes
> that are 0.20" diameter. The clevis pins are
> 0.19" diameter, which will
> result in a nice loose (non-binding) fit. Then get some #10
> flat washers and
> some 1/16" cotter pins, and put them together as shown
> in the attached
> image.
>
> Bill C.
=0A=0A=0A
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I recommend leather helmet, dark goggles, silk scarf.that will be my trick!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(11 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Cowls
>>> "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> 9/10/2008 10:31 AM >>>
>>>Many, including myself, try to keep the nose as slender as possible for
an 'older' look.>>>
Gary:
True but others, like myself, want a newer look so that observers don't see
how old the pilot is.
Tom Stinemetze
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2009 |
We are desperately trying to get the 6 - Big Piets ready to fly up to
Brodhead 09. Our goal was to hit the anniversary. We are in the covering
wings stage. Sounds like a party to me!
Barry Davis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams
To: Pietlist
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
Speaking of 2009..that's the 80th birthday of the Pietenpol Air
Camper!!! Has there been any talk about a special celebration at B'head?
How about another mass fly-in to OSH??
I know Bill Rewey was instrumental in getting the 70th bash a
reality and now that we have Doc Mosher in our camp maybe he could lend
his skills and networking abilities to further the cause.
Something special should happen for such a special airplane.
Larry Williams
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2009 |
I'm trying my best to make it!!!
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Davis<mailto:bed@mindspring.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
We are desperately trying to get the 6 - Big Piets ready to fly up to
Brodhead 09. Our goal was to hit the anniversary. We are in the covering
wings stage. Sounds like a party to me!
Barry Davis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams<mailto:lnawms@yahoo.com>
To: Pietlist<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
Speaking of 2009..that's the 80th birthday of the Pietenpol
Air Camper!!! Has there been any talk about a special celebration at
B'head? How about another mass fly-in to OSH??
I know Bill Rewey was instrumental in getting the 70th bash a
reality and now that we have Doc Mosher in our camp maybe he could lend
his skills and networking abilities to further the cause.
Something special should happen for such a special airplane.
Larry Williams
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My brother Andrew and I are planning to be there with the Pietenpol and Sti
nson. Watch for the twin "E"'s
Steve E
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
I'm trying my best to make it!!!
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Davis<mailto:bed@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
We are desperately trying to get the 6 - Big Piets ready to fly up to Brodh
ead 09. Our goal was to hit the anniversary. We are in the covering wings s
tage. Sounds like a party to me!
Barry Davis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams<mailto:lnawms@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
Speaking of 2009..that's the 80th birthday of the Pietenpol Air Camper!!! H
as there been any talk about a special celebration at B'head? How about ano
ther mass fly-in to OSH??
I know Bill Rewey was instrumental in getting the 70th bash a reality and n
ow that we have Doc Mosher in our camp maybe he could lend his skills and n
etworking abilities to further the cause.
Something special should happen for such a special airplane.
Larry Williams
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Boy, I sure wish mine was going to be ready, but I will be there in
spirit. Maybe the 85th!
Jack
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| Subject: | Spar on 3 piece wing plan |
Mike,
I would simply use whatever configuration spars you have decided on for
your wing panels as for what you use
in your center section.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? |
So Steve does that mean that The Green Hornet has been (or is being)
rebuilt to fly again ? Excellent !
Good to hear you're going to try to make it as well as Gene R. and the
Gaggle from Georgia. No slacking
until you get your planes signed off and time flown off:)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2009 |
If I work really hard, fast, diligently and without delays for divorce, I
think I could make the 85th with ya Jack!
John
In a message dated 9/10/2008 2:08:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jtextor@thepalmergroup.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor"
<jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
Boy, I sure wish mine was going to be ready, but I will be there in
spirit. Maybe the 85th!
Jack
www.textors.com
**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
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| Subject: | Spar on 3 piece wing plan |
Mike,
The 3 piece is shown as =BE inch which should not be routed. Mine were
built up 1" so I used 1" material for the center section.
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? |
Mike, are you volunteering to come and help one weekend? That would
help make sure I get finished in time.
Gene
So Steve does that mean that The Green Hornet has been (or is being)
rebuilt to fly again ? Excellent !
Good to hear you're going to try to make it as well as Gene R. and the
Gaggle from Georgia. No slacking
until you get your planes signed off and time flown off:)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? |
Gene,
You never showed up to help when I was building so you're on your own
fella:)
Mike C.
(you can do it !)
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| Subject: | Re: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? |
Nice! You never asked . . .
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]<mailto:Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ?
Gene,
You never showed up to help when I was building so you're on your own
fella:)
Mike C.
(you can do it !)
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
Sorry about that Tom. I tried to attach one pic, and it didn't even want to
let that through. Strange....anywho, here is the text:
I don't believe the exposed valve covers are related to cooling. The valve
cover itself does not provide any cooling. According to William Wynne most
of the heat is shed through the cylinder heads, and the rest via the
cylinders. I think the exposed valve covers are just a function of having
the cowling be the same width as the fuselage. The fuselage is 24" wide, and
Corvair is somewhere around 28" wide, so you have a couple inches sticking
out on either side. Even though the valve covers are exposed, there is still
baffling on the engine to direct the airflow through the heads and
cylinders. You could completely enclose the engine, it will just make the
cowling more...bulbous, shall we say. Gary and Shad Bell's Piet has a
similar cowling:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/2846066861/
Ryan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
> *Sorry Ryan, your last message came in blank screen.*
> **
> *Tom Stinemetze*
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kurt Shipman's Piet |
Dan,
Thanks for the info. Grassroots is where we saw his Piet, but we didn't run
into him. Unfortunately we did not run into you either, but we did see you
depart in your Sedan. Have a good one,
Ryan
do not archive
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:20 AM, <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
> I know Kurt was building it at Poplar Grove because I talked to him. I
> would assume it is still based there. He had it over at "Grassroots" fly-in
> (MAAC, Midwest Antique Airplane Club, over the weekend at Brodhead.
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
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>>> "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com> 9/10/2008 4:20 PM >>>
>>>Sorry about that Tom. I tried to attach one pic, and it didn't even
want to let that through. Strange....anywho, here is the text:<<<
Ryan:
Thanks for that link. If there's anything that really makes one Piet
stand out from another it has to be the shape of the cowling. At the
moment I haven't the faintest idea what mine is going to look like but I
will bet you that I don't like the first one.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS
do not archive
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| Subject: | Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ? |
Yep. Work has started on the repairs! I had a sobering package show up on
my doorstep a week ago... it was the fuselage and rudder skins of my piet
. It was sorta painful, sorta great kinda feeling. Andrew is rebuilding t
he fuselage and our goal is to meet up somewhere and fly back together and
enjoy Brodhead with both planes. I've toyed with the idea of building anot
her piet, just for the occasion, but I just have too many projects ahead of
another piet. I've always wanted to see if I could build one is less tha
n a year.
One great thing to report:
Latex is very durable and I'd paint with it again. In real world testing
the fabric held up very well. Even after being rolled up tightly in the ma
iling tube, the 12 year old fabric didn't crack when I unrolled it. This
fabric and coatings had nearly 400 hours of flight time and 2 years in the
elements before I got a hangar. It also suffered through one significant r
epair. It still looks great and had lots of life left.
Best regards,
Stevee
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Comeback kid, Steve E 10 years later ?
So Steve does that mean that The Green Hornet has been (or is being) rebuil
t to fly again ? Excellent !
Good to hear you're going to try to make it as well as Gene R. and the Gagg
le from Georgia. No slacking
until you get your planes signed off and time flown off:)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2009 |
[quote="bed(at)mindspring.com"]We are desperately trying to get the 6 - Big Piets
ready to fly up to Brodhead 09. Our goal was to hit the anniversary. We are
in the covering wings stage. Sounds like a party to me!
Barry Davis
> ---
Are you talking about the Piets being built around Atlanta? I am working in Atlanta
area and ready to start covering the wings on my GN-1 Biplane, would love
to get a look at the 6.
My project is on the westcoastpiet site under Jim D
Jim
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3701#203701
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2009 |
I sent an e-mail to Doc Mosher a week and a half ago enquiring about an
OSH gathering. No word back yet.
How many of us could commit to flying to OSH?
NX18235 is a probable attendee.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams
To: Pietlist
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2009
Speaking of 2009..that's the 80th birthday of the Pietenpol Air
Camper!!! Has there been any talk about a special celebration at B'head?
How about another mass fly-in to OSH??
I know Bill Rewey was instrumental in getting the 70th bash a
reality and now that we have Doc Mosher in our camp maybe he could lend
his skills and networking abilities to further the cause.
Something special should happen for such a special airplane.
Larry Williams
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