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1. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (Michael Silvius)
2. 07:27 AM - aileron hinge question (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 07:46 AM - Re: Aileron hinge question (Dick Navratil)
4. 10:32 AM - Re: Interesting Piet cargo pod (Patrick Panzera)
5. 10:56 AM - Re: Interesting Piet cargo pod (Gene & Tammy)
6. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (airlion@bellsouth.net)
7. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (H RULE)
8. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (boilerup@ndwave.com)
9. 04:54 PM - Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (boilerup@ndwave.com)
10. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
11. 06:31 PM - Re: Interesting Piet cargo pod (Bob Hassel)
12. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: Vinyl Ester Resin (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
13. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank (Isablcorky@aol.com)
14. 09:17 PM - Re: Interesting Piet cargo pod (Gary Boothe)
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
Harvey:
A great majority of epoxies and polyesters suffer degradation when in
contact with modern ethanol blends. But the key to building a composite
fuel tank that is compatible with todays etahnol blend fuels is to use
vinylester resin as this is impervious to alcohols. It is also a litle
more tolerant of deviations in mix proportions and thus a bit easier to
use.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/vinylester.php
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: H RULE
Please be aware that a fiber glass tank will be eaten in todays
gasoline types with ethonal in it.I was talking to a friend of mine and
he said that if you line the inside with a resistant coating that it
will last against it but I have as yet not been successful at this on my
N3Pup tanks.
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Subject: | aileron hinge question |
>you are going to cover them with a gap seal aren't you?
The continuous piano hinge the full length of the aileron IS the gap seal.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: Aileron hinge question |
A piano hinge becomes a gap seal.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: BScott116@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron hinge question
you are going to cover them with a gap seal aren't you?
In a message dated 9/14/2008 2:54:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
horzpool@goldengate.net writes:
Jack
My opinion is that lowering the hinge a bit makes for a better
bearing surface on the back side of the ailereon beam. The nuts willl be
right at the beveled edge. My hinge tops are right at the top of the
covering, but going 1/4" lower wouldnt hurt anything.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron hinge question
Hi all,
Wanting to hang my aileron hinge today and would appreciate your
thoughts. I=99m using a piano hinge. Do I align the top of the
hinge with the upper wing surface or should I raise it a bit so the
actual pin is aligned with the upper surface, which would result in the
rolled portion of the hinge to ride above the top surface.
Thanks!
Jack
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Subject: | Interesting Piet cargo pod |
The canard guys have had good luck with it.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/74/201693948_fd0ad08858.jpg?v=0
Pat
> Was just surfing the web for Pietenpol photos and came across an
> interesting idea. This Pietenpol has what looks like a torpedo, but is
> actually a cargo pod mounted below the fuselage. The description says it
> is made of carbon fiber. Looks like a great way to carry a tent or any
> other odd shaped items, for those trying to make the Air Camper live up to
> its name. Here's a link to the photo:
>
> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/223082.html
>
> Of course, one would have to accept the fact that such an attachment would
> add a bit of drag to an otherwise sleek aircraft.
>
> Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Interesting Piet cargo pod |
That's more like it!! I sure wouldn't want a non streamlined cargo pod
slowing my Piet down!
Gene N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Piet cargo pod
> <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>
>
> The canard guys have had good luck with it.
>
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/74/201693948_fd0ad08858.jpg?v=0
>
> Pat
>
>> Was just surfing the web for Pietenpol photos and came across an
>> interesting idea. This Pietenpol has what looks like a torpedo, but is
>> actually a cargo pod mounted below the fuselage. The description says it
>> is made of carbon fiber. Looks like a great way to carry a tent or any
>> other odd shaped items, for those trying to make the Air Camper live up
>> to
>> its name. Here's a link to the photo:
>>
>> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/223082.html
>>
>> Of course, one would have to accept the fact that such an attachment
>> would
>> add a bit of drag to an otherwise sleek aircraft.
>>
>> Bill C.
>
>
> --
> Checked by AVG.
> 1:24 PM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
Thanks for that information=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Mess
age ----=0AFrom: Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@mat
ronics.com=0ASent: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:55:57 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pi
etenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank=0A=0A=0AHarvey:=0A
-=0AA great majority of epoxies and-polyesters suffer degradation when
in contact with modern ethanol blends. But the key to building a composite
fuel tank that is compatible with todays etahnol blend fuels is to use viny
lester resin as this is impervious to alcohols. It is also a litle more tol
erant of deviations in mix proportions and thus a bit easier to use. =0A-
=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/vinylester.php=0A-=0AMic
hael- in Maine=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom:
H RULE =0A=0APlease be aware that a fiber glass tank will be eaten in today
s gasoline types with ethonal in it.I was talking to a friend of mine and h
e said that if you line the inside with a resistant coating that it will la
st against it but-I have as yet not been successful at this on my N3Pup t
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
I bought the plans also and my attempt at making the fiberglass tank was
not very successful. I have someone that will build me an aluminum tank
for the cost of materials. That is why I am inquiring about aluminum tank
plans.
Thanks,
Bart
>
> Hi
> I brought the plans for a fibreglass tank from Kerri-Ann Price they are
> very good and the tank should be quite a bit lighter just do a search on
> the name and you will find it.
> Carson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 4285#204285
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
Corvair.
>
> Are you using a Model A engine?
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <boilerup@ndwave.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 4:56 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank
>
>
>>
>> Does anyone have or now where to get a drawing for a wing mounted
>> aluminum
>> fuel tank?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
Being a large 270 lb 6'0" mass of water, tendons, muscle, fat, brains, look
s, gas and other humanoid characteristics, I went with a well built aluminu
m tank for ballast as a header tank. No stinking fiberglass in this plane!
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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--- On Mon, 9/15/08, boilerup@ndwave.com <boilerup@ndwave.com> wrote:
From: boilerup@ndwave.com <boilerup@ndwave.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank
I bought the plans also and my attempt at making the fiberglass tank was
not very successful. I have someone that will build me an aluminum tank
for the cost of materials. That is why I am inquiring about aluminum tank
plans.
Thanks,
Bart
<carsonvella@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Hi
> I brought the plans for a fibreglass tank from Kerri-Ann Price they are
> very good and the tank should be quite a bit lighter just do a search on
> the name and you will find it.
> Carson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 4285#204285
>
>
=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Interesting Piet cargo pod |
I'd want to make sure the laminar air-flow of the fuse wasn't messed up in
any way...
Bob
Santa Fe, NM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Piet cargo pod
That's more like it!! I sure wouldn't want a non streamlined cargo pod
slowing my Piet down!
Gene N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Piet cargo pod
> <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>
>
> The canard guys have had good luck with it.
>
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/74/201693948_fd0ad08858.jpg?v=0
>
> Pat
>
>> Was just surfing the web for Pietenpol photos and came across an
>> interesting idea. This Pietenpol has what looks like a torpedo, but is
>> actually a cargo pod mounted below the fuselage. The description says it
>> is made of carbon fiber. Looks like a great way to carry a tent or any
>> other odd shaped items, for those trying to make the Air Camper live up
>> to
>> its name. Here's a link to the photo:
>>
>> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/223082.html
>>
>> Of course, one would have to accept the fact that such an attachment
>> would
>> add a bit of drag to an otherwise sleek aircraft.
>>
>> Bill C.
>
>
> --
> Checked by AVG.
> 1:24 PM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Vinyl Ester Resin |
Michael,
I was considering a "wet centre section" fuel tank using fibreglass
but was concerned about alcohol reacting with the resin. I read that
epoxy vinyl ester resin does not react with alcohol, and many other
compounds, so my plans are back on track (as long as the tank
temperature stays below 150 degF).
Here is a link showing what chemical resistance epoxy vinyl ester
resin has.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/chemical-resistance-vinyl-ester-d_78
5.html
Regards,
JohnW
>But the key to building a composite fuel tank that is compatible
with todays etahnol blend fuels is to use vinylester resin as this is
impervious to alcohols.
Michael in Maine
>
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Wing Mounted Fuel Tank |
Sure am glad you exhibited those humanoid characteristics when we loaded
"Blue Boy" at 25 below in sunny, beautiful west Minnesota.
Thanks again
David and Corky
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Subject: | Interesting Piet cargo pod |
I think that you are all wrong about that picture. It is not a cargo pod. In
fact, I am quite sure it's a jettison fuel cell. How else is he going to get
to Texas to dogfight Oscar?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage
(11 ribs down.)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>> its name. Here's a link to the photo:
>>
>> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/223082.html
>>
>> Of course, one would have to accept the fact that such an attachment
>> would
>> add a bit of drag to an otherwise sleek aircraft.
>>
>> Bill C.
>
>
> --
> Checked by AVG.
> 1:24 PM
>
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