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1. 05:38 AM - Interesting Piet cargo pod (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 06:39 AM - Officially a Piet owner! (Jonathan Ragle)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com)
4. 06:53 AM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
5. 08:18 AM - IKE update (hvandervoo@aol.com)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
7. 09:06 AM - Re: IKE Update (Lynn Knoll)
8. 09:27 AM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Ed G.)
9. 09:45 AM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
10. 11:47 AM - Officially a Piet owner! (Oscar Zuniga)
11. 01:38 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (walt)
12. 02:12 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Gene & Tammy)
13. 02:39 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
14. 03:07 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Jonathan Ragle)
15. 04:32 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (John Hofmann)
16. 05:20 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Jonathan Ragle)
17. 06:46 PM - will the real Pietenpol please stand up (Oscar Zuniga)
18. 07:46 PM - Re: will the real Pietenpol please stand up (Jonathan Ragle)
19. 08:05 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Ryan Mueller)
20. 08:07 PM - Re: will the real Pietenpol please stand up (Roy Brooks)
21. 08:34 PM - Re: Officially a Piet owner! (Steve Ruse)
22. 08:37 PM - Fly-In at McCaslin Field, Slaughterville, OK (Steve Ruse)
23. 09:32 PM - Re: IKE update (Javier Cruz)
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| Subject: | Interesting Piet cargo pod |
>It is not a cargo pod. In fact, I am quite sure it's a jettison fuel cell.
>How else is he going to get to Texas to dogfight Oscar?
No worries with the fast guys... they can only zoom by, helpless to get close enough
long enough to take a shot. It's the slow ones that can hang on your tail
that you have to worry about.
And I thought the nose of that pod swung away to reveal six insulated recesses
about the size of longneck bottles but I could be wrong.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
Well I cut a check on Saturday and for the first time in my life I own an a
irplane. I'm quite proud. My dad and I built an RV but it was the parents
' money. My dad and I went 1/2 and 1/2 on this little blue Piet. I've got
a really big grin on my face that I just can't wipe off. Now I have to ge
t checked out for a tailwheel. Luckily my old flight instructor owns a Cha
mp. Should be a lot of fun.
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Now the parents can see what a real airplane is haha!
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Congratulations, she looks great, best of luck and enjoy! By all means enjoy!
John
In a message dated 9/16/2008 9:40:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jon95gt@hotmail.com writes:
Well I cut a check on Saturday and for the first time in my life I own an
airplane. I'm quite proud. My dad and I built an RV but it was the parents'
money. My dad and I went 1/2 and 1/2 on this little blue Piet. I've got a
really big grin on my face that I just can't wipe off. Now I have to get
checked out for a tailwheel. Luckily my old flight instructor owns a Champ.
Should be a lot of fun.
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Pietenpol AirCamper NX15KV survived IKE without a Scratch.
Both house and hangar escaped damage too.
Water and power got restored last night, Internet is still down.
(message send from work)
I hope the other Pietenpolers around and in Houston fared as well as I
did.
Hans
NX15KV, Waller Texas
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
John--
Congratulations on your new GN-1 Aircamper !
Mike C. in Ohio
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Great News Hans!
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
Very observant Mikey....I looked at the pics but didn't catch the fact that
it was a GN1.....
>From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Officially a Piet owner!
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:59:31 -0500
>
>John--
>
>Congratulations on your new GN-1 Aircamper !
>
>Mike C. in Ohio
>
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
Thank you Ed G. I figured I'd jump on it before Larry Williams did:)
Still no matter Piet or Grega, it gets us in the air having fun in an
open
cockpit on not a lot of money so I say go for it. We can all read
Trade
A Plane during the foul weather.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
Hey, nice! Now maybe I missed it in your post, but where are you located? Other
low and slow fliers are interested to know so we can network.
And Mike wrote-
>We can all readTrade A Plane during the foul weather.
What's foul weather? Is that when the geese are on instruments? We don't get
much of that down here, but every now and then we get a swirly thing come in from
the Gulf...
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Jonathan,
Congratulations,
Isn't it a great feeling?
Just my 2 cents...If you're learning in a Champ, fly from the back.
Cause when you switch to the Piet, it's like flying from the back of a
loaf of bread, with very limited forward sight.
And secondly, The Champ is very doscile <sp> compared to the Piet when
it comes to working the rudder upon landing.
So when you switch to the Piet, you have to be very quick on the rudder.
"Learn to Toe dance,,Fly a Pietenpol"
Good Luck!
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Ragle
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Officially a Piet owner!
Well I cut a check on Saturday and for the first time in my life I own
an airplane. I'm quite proud. My dad and I built an RV but it was the
parents' money. My dad and I went 1/2 and 1/2 on this little blue Piet.
I've got a really big grin on my face that I just can't wipe off. Now
I have to get checked out for a tailwheel. Luckily my old flight
instructor owns a Champ. Should be a lot of fun.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/210649/7
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Jonathan, Congrats and welcome to the "club".
Gene in Tennessee
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Ragle
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Officially a Piet owner!
Well I cut a check on Saturday and for the first time in my life I own
an airplane. I'm quite proud. My dad and I built an RV but it was the
parents' money. My dad and I went 1/2 and 1/2 on this little blue Piet.
I've got a really big grin on my face that I just can't wipe off. Now
I have to get checked out for a tailwheel. Luckily my old flight
instructor owns a Champ. Should be a lot of fun.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/210649/7
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Jonathan........
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Yaa-whooooo. Great feeling owning your first plane! I congratulate you on y
our drive to own a plane.
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Jonathan Ragle <jon95gt@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Jonathan Ragle <jon95gt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Officially a Piet owner!
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Well I cut a check on Saturday and for the first time in my life I own an a
irplane.- I'm quite proud.--My dad and I built an RV but it was the p
arents' money.- My dad and I went 1/2 and 1/2 on this little blue Piet.
- I've got a really big grin on my face that I just can't wipe off.- No
w I have to-get checked out for a tailwheel.- Luckily my old flight ins
tructor owns a Champ.- Should be a lot of fun.
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/210649/7
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
Now the parents can see what a real airplane is haha!
Agreed! The 'ol man just bought a Bearhawk kit meaning if I ever
ditch the Piet in a field longer than 200ft we can cut it up with a sawzal
l=2C load it up and bring it home in one trip.
John--
Congratulations on your new GN-1 Aircamper !
Mike C. in Ohio
Mike C=2C what is a GN-1? Long fuselage? And thanks!
Hey=2C nice! Now maybe I missed it in your post=2C but where are you locate
d? Other low and slow fliers are interested to know so we can network.
Based in Mineral Wells=2C TX. BTW=2C that M-19 looks like a real
ly cool piece. Wouldn't mind building one of those myself. :)
Jonathan=2C
Congratulations=2C
Isn't it a great feeling?
Just my 2 cents...If you're learning in a Champ=2C fly from the back. Caus
e when you switch to the Piet=2C it's like flying from the back of a loaf o
f bread=2C with very limited forward sight.
And secondly=2C The Champ is very doscile <sp> compared to the Piet when it
comes to working the rudder upon landing.
So when you switch to the Piet=2C you have to be very quick on the rudder.
"Learn to Toe dance=2C=2CFly a Pietenpol"
Good Luck!
walt evansNX140DL
Thanks for the tips Walt. I have been talking a bit to the fello
w that purchased the piet from and he told me that while the Champ is a be
tter flying machine the Piet is easier to lan and handles better on the gro
und. He mentioned that he has a lot of champ time. It is interesting and
helpful to hear some conflicting views. I'll make sure to hop in the back
of the Champ. Good info. And yes... it is a great feeling. I'm quite ple
ased.
Kenneth=2C Gene=2C Tammy.... Thanks guys. :)
Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Jonathan Ragle wrote:
What Mikee is saying is that it is not a Pietenpol, but is a Grega
GN-1. Nothing wrong with that at but it ain't a Bernard Pietenpol type
Aircamper. Congrats on ownership. I jumped in the fray a few months
ago with a J-3.
TakeCare,
-john-
> Mike C. in Ohio
>
> Mike C, what is a GN-1? Long fuselage? And thanks!
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| Subject: | Officially a Piet owner! |
That's all well and good=2C I'm just curious - what changes are there? Whe
n I looked it up on the FAA site I'm pretty sure it said Piet=2C but you ca
n pretty much call a homebuilt whatever you want on paper.
Thanks=2C
Jon
From: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Officially a Piet owner!
On Sep 16=2C 2008=2C at 5:07 PM=2C Jonathan Ragle wrote:
What Mikee is saying is that it is not a Pietenpol=2C but is a Grega GN-1.
Nothing wrong with that at but it ain't a Bernard Pietenpol type Aircamper.
Congrats on ownership. I jumped in the fray a few months ago with a J-3.
TakeCare=2C-john-
Mike C. in Ohio Mike C=2C what is a GN-1? Long fuselage? And th
anks!
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| Subject: | will the real Pietenpol please stand up |
Sigh... here we go again... "what's the difference between a Pietenpol and a GN-1?"
I won't get into it this time; I sent Doc Mosher a very nice and informative
letter on the subject and he wrote an editorial about my letter on the BPA
News website. Enough said from my corner. All I was trying to do was give
due respect to both Mr. Pietenpol and Mr. Grega for their respective contributions
to our most enjoyable sport in both Air Campers and Aircampers, but then
again some people call any yellow airplane a "Cub" no matter what it really is.
For now suffice it to say that N83887 is registered as a "Pietenpol GN-1". Now
you talk about a hermaphrodite-! That's just about the same as saying your party
affiliation is "Democratic Republican" ;o)
Low 'n' slow forever! And welcome to the Texas Air Camper Organization (TACO)!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC (all Piet and proud of it)
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | will the real Pietenpol please stand up |
Sorry man!! Definately not trying to start a debate or war of any type. :
) I just looked it up again before getting on here and sure enough it's a
Pietenpol GN-1. So it's a hermie=2C not to worried about it. I did a bit
of research and found a few things about the GN-1. I should have known it
was a newbie question and done a search. My mistake!
Jonathan Ragle
Pietenpol GN-1 N83887 (Bastard child and OK with it)
Watauga=2C Texas
> From: taildrags@hotmail.com> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: P
ietenpol-List: will the real Pietenpol please stand up> Date: Tue=2C 16 Sep
<taildrags@hotmail.com>> > > Sigh... here we go again... "what's the differ
ence between a Pietenpol and a GN-1?" I won't get into it this time=3B I se
nt Doc Mosher a very nice and informative letter on the subject and he wrot
e an editorial about my letter on the BPA News website. Enough said from my
corner. All I was trying to do was give due respect to both Mr. Pietenpol
and Mr. Grega for their respective contributions to our most enjoyable spor
t in both Air Campers and Aircampers=2C but then again some people call any
yellow airplane a "Cub" no matter what it really is.> > For now suffice it
to say that N83887 is registered as a "Pietenpol GN-1". Now you talk about
a hermaphrodite-! That's just about the same as saying your party affiliat
ion is "Democratic Republican" =3Bo)> > Low 'n' slow forever! And welcome t
o the Texas Air Camper Organization (TACO)!> > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX4
1CC (all Piet and proud of it)> San Antonio=2C TX> mailto: taildrags@hotmai
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Jonathan,
Check out the FAQs at WestCoastPiet for a quick explanation of the
differences:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/faq%27s.htm
Either way, you should have plenty of fun with your new airplane. Good luck
hunting down the bloody Red Baron!
Ryan
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Jonathan Ragle <jon95gt@hotmail.com> wrote:
> That's all well and good, I'm just curious - what changes are there? When
> I looked it up on the FAA site I'm pretty sure it said Piet, but you can
> pretty much call a homebuilt whatever you want on paper.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
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| Subject: | will the real Pietenpol please stand up |
Hey... Coke=2C Pepsi -- Mr. Pibb or Dr. Pepper.
I'll sit on a tailgate and drink a different-brand soda with anybody and I
don't criticize them for the flavor they prefer. (Oscar calls me a woosie c
ause I like Corona=2C but that's just between two amigos...:) This Piet vs
GN thing brings us apart. I just call 'em Aircampers and hope for the best.
Now get this=2C the example I have (in progress and soon to go on Ebay) is
a Piet fuselage and a GN wing) I didn't start this=2C an A&P/AI who has a M
aster's Degree in an aeronautical field did=2C and whom was in the Air Forc
e as a B1 and a B2 maintenance officer. (Has more brains than me=2C so I su
spect he knows someting I didn't ? )
I guess my "AirCamper" is part Baptist=2C part Lutheran? ..... Either way (
Piet/GN or Baptist/Lutreran) I suspect we all touch-down on the same grass
strip in the end and that's really all that matters.
Sterling
the original TACO from El Paso
From: jon95gt@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: will the real Pietenpol please stand up
Sorry man!! Definately not trying to start a debate or war of any type. :
) I just looked it up again before getting on here and sure enough it's a
Pietenpol GN-1. So it's a hermie=2C not to worried about it. I did a bit
of research and found a few things about the GN-1. I should have known it
was a newbie question and done a search. My mistake!
Jonathan Ragle
Pietenpol GN-1 N83887 (Bastard child and OK with it)
Watauga=2C Texas
> From: taildrags@hotmail.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: will the real Pietenpol please stand up
> Date: Tue=2C 16 Sep 2008 20:45:46 -0500
>
>
>
>
> Sigh... here we go again... "what's the difference between a Pietenpol an
d a GN-1?" I won't get into it this time=3B I sent Doc Mosher a very nice a
nd informative letter on the subject and he wrote an editorial about my let
ter on the BPA News website. Enough said from my corner. All I was trying t
o do was give due respect to both Mr. Pietenpol and Mr. Grega for their res
pective contributions to our most enjoyable sport in both Air Campers and A
ircampers=2C but then again some people call any yellow airplane a "Cub" no
matter what it really is.
>
> For now suffice it to say that N83887 is registered as a "Pietenpol GN-1"
. Now you talk about a hermaphrodite-! That's just about the same as saying
your party affiliation is "Democratic Republican" =3Bo)
>
> Low 'n' slow forever! And welcome to the Texas Air Camper Organization (T
ACO)!
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC (all Piet and proud of it)
> San Antonio=2C TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysq===============
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Piet owner! |
Jonathan,
Congratulations from another GN-1 owner! I still call mine a Pietenpol
because the way I figure it is 95% Piet, 5% Grega. Majority wins.
Heck, Bernard himself probably made more modifications to the original
Piet design than anyone else, I guess that makes him the worlds greatest
purist and greatest blasphemer at the same time. How many "original,
true Pietenpols" built in the last three decades have cotton cloth and
the same type paint Bernard used? Not many. Anyway, I'll shut up now,
probably should've done that several sentences ago.
I used to live in the DFW area, and kept my plane at Grayson County and
Meacham for a while. I flew it under the class B a lot, and at
Meacham's class D often. I stopped at MWL in it about 6 weeks ago to
see Darryl at Firebird Aviation. I have a good friend in Graham, so I
fly it down there fairly often.
There is a good group of local pilots at http://www.dfwpilots.com/board/
, you should check out the website sometime. We get together fairly
regularly for fly-ins and such. I'd love to see another GN-1 sometime.
They are a lot of fun. I bought mine in Indiana and flew it to Texas
about 3.5 years ago, and have put over 300 hours on it since. It is a
great plane.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Ragle
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Officially a Piet owner!
Well I cut a check on Saturday and for the first time in my life I own
an airplane. I'm quite proud. My dad and I built an RV but it was the
parents' money. My dad and I went 1/2 and 1/2 on this little blue Piet.
I've got a really big grin on my face that I just can't wipe off. Now
I have to get checked out for a tailwheel. Luckily my old flight
instructor owns a Champ. Should be a lot of fun.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/210649/7
Do not archive.
Jonathan - Happy to be part of the club. :)
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| Subject: | Fly-In at McCaslin Field, Slaughterville, OK |
Piet Folks,
There are two grass-strip fly-ins scheduled at McCaslin Field this fall,
one for breakfast on September 27th and Lunch November 15th. Follow the
link below for details. I'd really like to see some other Piets there.
If you think you might come, please let me know, I'm trying to get a
rough head count.
McCaslin is a few miles south of Norman, OK. Identifier is Oscar44
(O44).
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flyin
Steve Ruse
405-209-9010
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