---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/20/08: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:11 AM - Re: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US (HelsperSew@aol.com) 2. 04:50 AM - Re: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US (H RULE) 3. 05:00 AM - Re: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US (Ryan Mueller) 4. 05:05 AM - Greensboro, NC Pietenpols (Gene Rambo) 5. 05:50 AM - Re: Greensboro, NC Pietenpols (Lloyd Smith) 6. 05:58 AM - Re: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US (amsafetyc@aol.com) 7. 06:13 AM - Re: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 8. 06:39 AM - Paper cutter source (Ryan Mueller) 9. 06:50 AM - Re: Paper cutter source (Michael Silvius) 10. 07:10 AM - Re: Paper cutter source (Kip and Beth Gardner) 11. 07:32 AM - Re: Paper cutter source (Jose Soto) 12. 08:34 AM - Re: Paper cutter source (Michael Perez) 13. 10:48 AM - Re: Paper cutter source (Ryan Mueller) 14. 11:01 AM - Re: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US (Jonathan Ragle) 15. 04:13 PM - Re: Paper cutter source (Pieti Lowell) 16. 04:31 PM - Paper cutter source/rib question (Ryan Mueller) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:34 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US Hi Guys, Just today I was trying to carve my prop. The first step is to horse most of the material off with an electric chain saw. So I bought a Chinese model from Harbor Freight. After only about 30 minutes of use, the thing came to a screeching halt. Investigation revealed that the bearings got so hot that the plastic housing melted. What a bunch of crap! I should have listened to my old A&P instructor, L.B. Applegate, when he said "there is nothing more expensive than cheap tools". Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:48 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US I had something like that happen to me but it was because I forgot to put o il in the gas. =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "HelsperSew@ aol.com" =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sa turday, September 20, 2008 6:10:54 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US=0A=0AHi Guys,=0A=0AJust today I was trying to carve my prop. The first step is to horse most of the material off with an electric -chain saw. So I bought a Chinese model from Harbor Freight. After only a bout 30 minutes of use, the thing came to a screeching halt. Investigation revealed that the bearings got so hot that the plastic housing melted. What a bunch of crap! I should have listened to my old A&P instructor, L.B. App legate, when he said "there is nothing more expensive than cheap tools". =0A=0ADan Helsper=0APoplar Grove, IL.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________ _________=0ALooking for simple solutions to your real-life financial cha540 686/aol?redir=http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001" hrr =http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001" target="_blank" >Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculat ========= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:51 AM PST US From: "Ryan Mueller" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US Dan, We had a similarly frustrating experience with one of their crappy tools. We picked up the 40 lb pressurized blaster they sell. We needed to do (still need to do) some blasting of various engine parts; it was on sale, so I thought we'd give it a shot. I knew everything they sold was pretty well throw away stuff, but how bad could a blaster be? No moving parts, no motors, etc. Just a valve to turn it off and on. It came disassembled. No big deal. I put it together using plenty of teflon tape, and applying more than enough torque to the numerous valve bodies, manifolds, fittings, hoses, etc. I put the air to it and it leaked like a seize from damn near everywhere. It even leaked air profusely from around the bell jar shaped housing that attached to the main body of the air separator (because of being so poorly manufactured). I could try to chase all the leaks out of it, but the air separator was still completely junk and was not going to seal up. I boxed the whole mess back up and we returned it. Very frustrating day. Good luck on your search for a decent saw. Have a good morning, Ryan On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:10 AM, wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Just today I was trying to carve my prop. The first step is to horse most > of the material off with an electric chain saw. So I bought a Chinese model > from Harbor Freight. After only about 30 minutes of use, the thing came to a > screeching halt. Investigation revealed that the bearings got so hot that > the plastic housing melted. What a bunch of crap! I should have listened to > my old A&P instructor, L.B. Applegate, when he said "there is nothing more > expensive than cheap tools". > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:54 AM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greensboro, NC Pietenpols I keep forgetting, is anyone close to Greensboro NC? I have to sit there all day tomorrow and would like to find someone to visit. Gene ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:24 AM PST US From: "Lloyd Smith" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greensboro, NC Pietenpols jack Phillips isin Raleigh, but he may be in VA during the weekend working on his new home. On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Gene Rambo wrote: > I keep forgetting, is anyone close to Greensboro NC? I have to sit there > all day tomorrow and would like to find someone to visit. > > Gene > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US From: amsafetyc@aol.com VHJ1dGggaXMgeW91IGdvIGhhcmJvciBmcmVpZ2h0IGZvciB0aHJvdyBhd2F5IHRvb2xzLiBDaGVh cCBhbmQgbmV2ZXIgdGFrZSB1cCBzcGFjZSBpbiB5b3VyIHNob3AgZm9ydHVuYXRlbHkgdGhlIGFs c28gc2VsbCB0cmFzaCBjYW5zIHRvIHRyYW5zcG9ydCB0aGUgdG9vbHMgdG8gdGhlIGN1cmINCg0K Sm9obg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgQmxhY2tCZXJyeQ0KDQotLS0tLU9y aWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogIlJ5YW4gTXVlbGxlciIgPHJtdWVsbGVyMjNAZ21h aWwuY29tPg0KDQpEYXRlOiBTYXQsIDIwIFNlcCAyMDA4IDA2OjU5OjI1IA0KVG86IDxwaWV0ZW5w b2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPg0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBDaGlu YSBTa3lDYXRjaGVyIE9UIEJ1eSBVUw0KDQoNCkRhbiwNCg0KV2UgaGFkIGEgc2ltaWxhcmx5IGZy dXN0cmF0aW5nIGV4cGVyaWVuY2Ugd2l0aCBvbmUgb2YgdGhlaXIgY3JhcHB5IHRvb2xzLiBXZQ0K cGlja2VkIHVwIHRoZSA0MCBsYiBwcmVzc3VyaXplZCBibGFzdGVyIHRoZXkgc2VsbC4gV2UgbmVl ZGVkIHRvIGRvIChzdGlsbA0KbmVlZCB0byBkbykgc29tZSBibGFzdGluZyBvZiB2YXJpb3VzIGVu Z2luZSBwYXJ0czsgaXQgd2FzIG9uIHNhbGUsIHNvIEkNCnRob3VnaHQgd2UnZCBnaXZlIGl0IGEg c2hvdC4gSSBrbmV3IGV2ZXJ5dGhpbmcgdGhleSBzb2xkIHdhcyBwcmV0dHkgd2VsbA0KdGhyb3cg YXdheSBzdHVmZiwgYnV0IGhvdyBiYWQgY291bGQgYSBibGFzdGVyIGJlPyBObyBtb3ZpbmcgcGFy dHMsIG5vDQptb3RvcnMsIGV0Yy4gSnVzdCBhIHZhbHZlIHRvIHR1cm4gaXQgb2ZmIGFuZCBvbi4N Cg0KSXQgY2FtZSBkaXNhc3NlbWJsZWQuIE5vIGJpZyBkZWFsLiBJIHB1dCBpdCB0b2dldGhlciB1 c2luZyBwbGVudHkgb2YgdGVmbG9uDQp0YXBlLCBhbmQgYXBwbHlpbmcgbW9yZSB0aGFuIGVub3Vn aCB0b3JxdWUgdG8gdGhlIG51bWVyb3VzIHZhbHZlIGJvZGllcywNCm1hbmlmb2xkcywgZml0dGlu Z3MsIGhvc2VzLCBldGMuIEkgcHV0IHRoZSBhaXIgdG8gaXQgYW5kIGl0IGxlYWtlZCBsaWtlIGEN CnNlaXplIGZyb20gZGFtbiBuZWFyIGV2ZXJ5d2hlcmUuIEl0IGV2ZW4gbGVha2VkIGFpciBwcm9m dXNlbHkgZnJvbSBhcm91bmQNCnRoZSBiZWxsIGphciBzaGFwZWQgaG91c2luZyB0aGF0IGF0dGFj aGVkIHRvIHRoZSBtYWluIGJvZHkgb2YgdGhlIGFpcg0Kc2VwYXJhdG9yIChiZWNhdXNlIG9mIGJl aW5nIHNvIHBvb3JseSBtYW51ZmFjdHVyZWQpLiBJIGNvdWxkIHRyeSB0byBjaGFzZQ0KYWxsIHRo ZSBsZWFrcyBvdXQgb2YgaXQsIGJ1dCB0aGUgYWlyIHNlcGFyYXRvciB3YXMgc3RpbGwgY29tcGxl dGVseSBqdW5rIGFuZA0Kd2FzIG5vdCBnb2luZyB0byBzZWFsIHVwLiBJIGJveGVkIHRoZSB3aG9s ZSBtZXNzIGJhY2sgdXAgYW5kIHdlIHJldHVybmVkIGl0Lg0KVmVyeSBmcnVzdHJhdGluZyBkYXku DQoNCkdvb2QgbHVjayBvbiB5b3VyIHNlYXJjaCBmb3IgYSBkZWNlbnQgc2F3LiBIYXZlIGEgZ29v ZCBtb3JuaW5nLA0KDQpSeWFuDQoNCk9uIFNhdCwgU2VwIDIwLCAyMDA4IGF0IDU6MTAgQU0sIDxI ZWxzcGVyU2V3QGFvbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQo+ICBIaSBHdXlzLA0KPg0KPiBKdXN0IHRvZGF5 IEkgd2FzIHRyeWluZyB0byBjYXJ2ZSBteSBwcm9wLiBUaGUgZmlyc3Qgc3RlcCBpcyB0byBob3Jz ZSBtb3N0DQo+IG9mIHRoZSBtYXRlcmlhbCBvZmYgd2l0aCBhbiBlbGVjdHJpYyBjaGFpbiBzYXcu IFNvIEkgYm91Z2h0IGEgQ2hpbmVzZSBtb2RlbA0KPiBmcm9tIEhhcmJvciBGcmVpZ2h0LiBBZnRl ciBvbmx5IGFib3V0IDMwIG1pbnV0ZXMgb2YgdXNlLCB0aGUgdGhpbmcgY2FtZSB0byBhDQo+IHNj cmVlY2hpbmcgaGFsdC4gSW52ZXN0aWdhdGlvbiByZXZlYWxlZCB0aGF0IHRoZSBiZWFyaW5ncyBn b3Qgc28gaG90IHRoYXQNCj4gdGhlIHBsYXN0aWMgaG91c2luZyBtZWx0ZWQuIFdoYXQgYSBidW5j aCBvZiBjcmFwISBJIHNob3VsZCBoYXZlIGxpc3RlbmVkIHRvDQo+IG15IG9sZCBBJlAgaW5zdHJ1 Y3RvciwgTC5CLiBBcHBsZWdhdGUsIHdoZW4gaGUgc2FpZCAidGhlcmUgaXMgbm90aGluZyBtb3Jl DQo+IGV4cGVuc2l2ZSB0aGFuIGNoZWFwIHRvb2xzIi4NCj4gRGFuIEhlbHNwZXINCj4gUG9wbGFy IEdyb3ZlLCBJTA0KPg0KDQo ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:53 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US Tools burning up are common for Harbour Freight tools. That is why you can just take them back for a replacement so easy. Of course the next one may burn up also. Yeah they are cheep. Blue skies. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US > Truth is you go harbor freight for throw away tools. Cheap and > never take up space in your shop fortunately the also sell trash > cans to transport the tools to the curb > > John > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Ryan Mueller" < > > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:59:25 > To: < > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US > > > Dan, > > We had a similarly frustrating experience with one of their crappy tools. We > picked up the 40 lb pressurized blaster they sell. We needed to do (still > need to do) some blasting of various engine parts; it was on sale, so I > thought we'd give it a shot. I knew everything they sold was pretty well > throw away stuff, but how bad could a blaster be? No moving parts, no > motors, etc. Just a valve to turn it off and on. > > It came disassembled. No big deal. I put it together using plenty of teflon > tape, and applying more than enough torque to the numerous valve bodies, > manifolds, fittings, hoses, etc. I put the air to it and it leaked like a > seize from damn near everywhere. It even leaked air profusely from around > the bell jar shaped housing that attached to the main body of the air > separator (because of being so poorly manufactured). I could try to chase > all the leaks out of it, but the air separator was still completely junk and > was not going to seal up. I boxed the whole mess back up and we returned it. > Very frustrating day. > > Good luck on your search for a decent saw. Have a good morning, > > Ryan > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:10 AM, < wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Just today I was trying to carve my prop. The first step is to horse most > > of the material off with an electric chain saw. So I bought a Chinese model > > from Harbor Freight. After only about 30 minutes of use, the thing came to a > > screeching halt. Investigation revealed that the bearings got so hot that > > the plastic housing melted. What a bunch of crap! I should have listened to > > my old A&P instructor, L.B. Applegate, when he said "there is nothing more > > expensive than cheap tools". > > Dan Helsper > > Poplar Grove, IL > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:16 AM PST US From: "Ryan Mueller" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source I'm trying to locate a paper cutter, to use for cutting up gussets. I'm hoping to find a plain old used paper cutter along the lines of the simple, hefty units they used to have in schools, offices, etc. I would think there would be plenty of surplus used ones out there, but I'm coming up empty on where to find them. The office supply mega-stores have paper cutters, but usually only a handful of models. They're either ridiculously expensive, or not worth the cheap Chinese plastic they're made out of ($32 for a junk unit that is almost lighter than the box and styrofoam it is packed in). The used office supply places I've called around to seem to only deal with furniture (desks, filing cabinets, etc). Any suggestions? Ryan ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:10 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source Ryan: Try ebay for used ones?? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Mueller I'm trying to locate a paper cutter, to use for cutting up gussets. I'm hoping to find a plain old used paper cutter along the lines of the simple, hefty units they used to have in schools, offices, etc. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:53 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source Hi Ryan, I had the same problem - got one of the plastic ones & it only worked so-so to crappy. I think the only place to find one of the old, good ones is if you had an '"in" at a public school that had one squirreled away in storage. What I wound up doing was getting an old scroll saw (jigsaw?? - the benchtop thing, not the hand-held type) at a garage sale for $5 & clamping a straight piece of wood to it as a fence. Works really fast & you can stack 3-4 pieces of wood to make it go even faster. It's real easy to make short straight cuts on any odd-shaped pieces as well. Of course, if you already have a bandsaw, it can do the same job as the jigsaw. Kip Gardner On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > I'm trying to locate a paper cutter, to use for cutting up gussets. > I'm hoping to find a plain old used paper cutter along the lines of > the simple, hefty units they used to have in schools, offices, etc. > I would think there would be plenty of surplus used ones out there, > but I'm coming up empty on where to find them. The office supply > mega-stores have paper cutters, but usually only a handful of > models. They're either ridiculously expensive, or not worth the > cheap Chinese plastic they're made out of ($32 for a junk unit that > is almost lighter than the box and styrofoam it is packed in). The > used office supply places I've called around to seem to only deal > with furniture (desks, filing cabinets, etc). Any suggestions? > > Ryan > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:19 AM PST US From: "Jose Soto" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source Hi Ryan, from my R/C modeling, I have some friends that have laser cutting equipment and I am going to try to set up all of the gussets on a CAD file to see how they turn out. I'll let you know, Jose ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Mueller To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:38 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source I'm trying to locate a paper cutter, to use for cutting up gussets. I'm h oping to find a plain old used paper cutter along the lines of the simple, hefty units they used to have in schools, offices, etc. I would think there would be plenty of surplus used ones out there, but I'm coming up empty on where to find them. The office supply mega-stores have paper cutters, but usually only a handful of models. They're either ridiculously expensive, or not worth the cheap Chinese plastic they're made out of ($32 for a junk un it that is almost lighter than the box and styrofoam it is packed in). The used office supply places I've called around to seem to only deal with furn iture (desks, filing cabinets, etc). Any suggestions? Ryan ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:11 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source Ryan, here is what I found real quick on the internet: - http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/330379/GBC-GT-II-Series-Trimmer-12/ I found out that thesetype cutters are called "Arm Cutters."- I don't kno w how much you want to spend, but this one looks to be a lot like the one I used in my HINT video with the wood base and steel arm. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:38 AM PST US From: "Ryan Mueller" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source Michael, Thanks for the link. As luck would have it, this is an online only item. I was hoping to find something locally. The two Office Depot's I've been to thus far only stock two cutters. They are made by the same company, GBC, and are absolutely worthless (one is at the same price point). I'm a bit hesitant to order one of their products sight unseen, especially with it being at the same price point as one of their other worthless products, and then have to send it back because it is also junk. In searching around since my initial email I actually did find one, in the style I am looking for. The Michigan State University Surplus Store has a website, where they dispose of their...well, surplus stuff. They had two used 16" cutters, the older heavy duty style, for $29.99 each. East Lansing is not too far away from Chicago, so after $11 for shipping I have what I wanted for about $40. Thanks for your help. Enjoy your weekend, Ryan On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > Ryan, here is what I found real quick on the internet: > > http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/330379/GBC-GT-II-Series-Trimmer-12/ > I found out that thesetype cutters are called "Arm Cutters." I don't know > how much you want to spend, but this one looks to be a lot like the one I > used in my HINT video with the wood base and steel arm. > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:10 AM PST US From: Jonathan Ragle Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US Oddly after building 2 aluminum airplanes the belt sander=2C 2 wheel grinde r=2C and drill press that my dad bought 10 years ago from HF are still goin g strong. Total investment: $150. Jon> From: steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com> D ate: Sat=2C 20 Sep 2008 08:13:18 -0500> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: China even D MAJ NG NG NGB" > > Tools burning up are common for Harbour Freight tools. That is why you can just take them back for a replacement so easy. Of course the next one may burn up also. Yeah th ey are cheep.> > Blue skies.> Steve> > ----- Original Message -----> From: amsafetyc@aol.com> Date: Saturday=2C September 20=2C 2008 8:07> Subject: Re : Pietenpol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US> To: pietenpol-list@matronics. com> > > > Truth is you go harbor freight for throw away tools. Cheap and > > never take up space in your shop fortunately the also sell trash > > can s to transport the tools to the curb> > > > John> > Sent from my Verizon Wi reless BlackBerry> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: "Ryan Mueller" <> > > > Date: Sat=2C 20 Sep 2008 06:59:25 > > To: <> > Subject: Re: Piete npol-List: China SkyCatcher OT Buy US> > > > > > Dan=2C> > > > We had a sim ilarly frustrating experience with one of their crappy tools. We> > picked up the 40 lb pressurized blaster they sell. We needed to do (still> > need to do) some blasting of various engine parts=3B it was on sale=2C so I> > t hought we'd give it a shot. I knew everything they sold was pretty well> > throw away stuff=2C but how bad could a blaster be? No moving parts=2C no> > motors=2C etc. Just a valve to turn it off and on.> > > > It came disasse mbled. No big deal. I put it together using plenty of teflon> > tape=2C and applying more than enough torque to the numerous valve bodies=2C> > manifo lds=2C fittings=2C hoses=2C etc. I put the air to it and it leaked like a> > seize from damn near everywhere. It even leaked air profusely from around > > the bell jar shaped housing that attached to the main body of the air> > separator (because of being so poorly manufactured). I could try to chase > > all the leaks out of it=2C but the air separator was still completely j unk and> > was not going to seal up. I boxed the whole mess back up and we returned it.> > Very frustrating day.> > > > Good luck on your search for a decent saw. Have a good morning=2C> > > > Ryan> > > > On Sat=2C Sep 20=2C 2008 at 5:10 AM=2C < wrote:> > > > > Hi Guys=2C> > >> > > Just today I was trying to carve my prop. The first step is to horse most> > > of the materi al off with an electric chain saw. So I bought a Chinese model> > > from Ha rbor Freight. After only about 30 minutes of use=2C the thing came to a> > > screeching halt. Investigation revealed that the bearings got so hot that > > > the plastic housing melted. What a bunch of crap! I should have liste ned to> > > my old A&P instructor=2C L.B. Applegate=2C when he said "there is nothing more> > > expensive than cheap tools".> > > Dan Helsper> > > Pop ========================> _ ================> > > _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people=2C information=2C and fun that are part of your life. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Paper cutter source From: "Pieti Lowell" I found 2 cutters ( Old Style ) at St Vinnies, and put them on the shelf to sell for $3.00 each, they were sold in a day. will keep my eyes open for future donations, By the way I cut gussets with a heavy duty scissors Bent No 9 by Fiskars Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5321#205321 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:49 PM PST US From: "Ryan Mueller" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paper cutter source/rib question Lowell, My wife's grandmother has an old pair of scissors she uses to cut pizzas with. They are enormous, and sharp. Those (or in this case something along those lines) would have worked as well. I think the cutter I found will work well too, for a minimal investment. A question for you about the Riblett. I have Bill Rewey's print. I was double checking my gusset count last night, and came up with a question. There is a diagonal at the rear of the rib. It's between the "aileron beam" and the trailing edge. I would assume this only goes on aileron ribs. It looks like it was originally a top and bottom gusset on this diagonal member. These lines have been scratched out and Bill has drawn in one larger rectangular gusset to cover the whole shape. Am I reading that correctly? Then I wondered....if building the wing (and thusly the ailerons) to the plans when using the Riblett, what purpose does that aileron diagonal serve? The Piet plans show a 1/2" spruce brace that bolts to the aileron horn, that would be roughly in the same position as that aileron diagonal. What am I missing here? Ryan On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Pieti Lowell wrote: > Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> > > I found 2 cutters ( Old Style ) at St Vinnies, and put them on the shelf to > sell for $3.00 each, they were sold in a day. will keep my eyes open for > future donations, By the way I cut gussets with a heavy duty scissors Bent > No 9 by Fiskars > Pieti Lowell > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5321#205321 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.