Today's Message Index:
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1. 11:36 AM - Latex paint status report (Rick Holland)
2. 12:50 PM - Latex paint status report (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 12:59 PM - Re: Latex paint status report (Gary Boothe)
4. 03:33 PM - 3-Piece Wing Rib Question ()
5. 03:52 PM - Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question (Richard Schreiber)
6. 04:16 PM - Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question (Rick Holland)
7. 04:22 PM - Fw: Latex paint status report (Rick Holland)
8. 04:36 PM - Latex status report (again) (Rick Holland)
9. 04:39 PM - Latex status report pictures - 1 (Rick Holland)
10. 04:40 PM - Latex status report pictures - 2 (Rick Holland)
11. 04:42 PM - Latex status report pictures - 3 (Rick Holland)
12. 07:05 PM - elevator cables: in good company (Oscar Zuniga)
13. 08:20 PM - Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question ()
14. 08:37 PM - Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 (charles loomis)
15. 09:04 PM - Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question (Ryan Mueller)
16. 11:05 PM - Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 ()
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| Subject: | Latex paint status report |
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| Subject: | Latex paint status report |
Rick; there was nothing in your email. Inquiring minds want to hear your update
on latex paint; thanks.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Latex paint status report |
The server 'washed' it out...;<)
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!)
(12 ribs down.)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Latex paint status report
Rick; there was nothing in your email. Inquiring minds want to hear your
update on latex paint; thanks.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
If I am building the 3-piece wing, do I need to build 6 ribs with the
additional bracing, instead of two as called for on the plans?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
Thats what I did, with 1/16" ply sheeting on the outside of the butt ribs
of the two wing halves and the outside two ribs on the center section.
Rick Schreiber
> [Original Message]
> From: <catdesigns@att.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/5/2008 5:37:02 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question
>
>
> If I am building the 3-piece wing, do I need to build 6 ribs with the
> additional bracing, instead of two as called for on the plans?
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
Ditto. Some say the 1/16 ply on one side of the six "outside" ribs is not
needed but others say it makes covering the ends easier (and with very
little extra weight).
Rick
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>wrote:
> lmforge@earthlink.net>
>
> Thats what I did, with 1/16" ply sheeting on the outside of the butt ribs
> of the two wing halves and the outside two ribs on the center section.
>
> Rick Schreiber
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <catdesigns@att.net>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 10/5/2008 5:37:02 PM
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question
> >
> >
> > If I am building the 3-piece wing, do I need to build 6 ribs with the
> > additional bracing, instead of two as called for on the plans?
> >
> > Chris Tracy
> > Sacramento, Ca
> > Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Fwd: Latex paint status report |
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| Subject: | Latex status report (again) |
For anyone thinking of using Latex paint on their Piet - I screwed a test
panel to a fence post three years ago facing true South. The panel was
covered with medium weight fabric attached with polytak. One side was
finished with one coat of Poly Brush and three coats of Sherwin Williams
yellow gloss exterior house paint (the second from the highest quality
grade) the other side with four coats of latex only(all brushed on). I live
in Colorado which has over 300 sunny days a year at 6700 ft. That results in
about 25% more UV radiation than sea level.
Anyhow, a punch test was done a couple of weeks ago on both sides of the
panel, and the results:
Side with one coat poly brush and three latex - three punches went through
at around 80
Side with four coats of latex only - three punches would not punch through
at the max range of the punch tester.
In addition the finish on the panel looks just as good today as it did when
I put it out there three years ago.
Since this message doesn't come through when I attach the pictures I will
try sending them separately.
Rick
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Latex status report pictures - 1 |
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| Subject: | Latex status report pictures - 2 |
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| Subject: | Latex status report pictures - 3 |
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| Subject: | elevator cables: in good company |
Just getting around to reading some of my magazines and gazing at the gorgeous
Tiger Moth on the cover of the May issue of Sport Aviation, it dawned on me that
the elevator cables on that beautiful airplane are rubbing on the leading edge
of the horizontal stabilizer, just like the Pietenpol.
Who says Mr. Pietenpol made a mistake in the cable geometry?!!! ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC, with elevator cables proudly rubbing the LE of the HS
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
Thanks Guys, it sounds like I need to make 4 more. One clarification. I
think I only need the plywood on the two center section and the two
inner wing panel ribs. Basically the 4 new ones needed because if the
3-piece design. Is this correct?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question
Ditto. Some say the 1/16 ply on one side of the six "outside" ribs is
not needed but others say it makes covering the ends easier (and with
very little extra weight).
Rick
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Richard Schreiber
<lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote:
<lmforge@earthlink.net>
Thats what I did, with 1/16" ply sheeting on the outside of the butt
ribs
of the two wing halves and the outside two ribs on the center
section.
Rick Schreiber
> [Original Message]
> From: <catdesigns@att.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/5/2008 5:37:02 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question
>
>
> If I am building the 3-piece wing, do I need to build 6 ribs with
the
> additional bracing, instead of two as called for on the plans?
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 |
I'm very interested in this test, but the server kicked the pics again, what about
posting them in the Yahoo, Pietenpol group?
Charley
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Latex status report pictures - 3
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:40 AM
>
Message 15
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| Subject: | Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
Chris,
As I read it, 6 total ribs with the reinforcements for the 3-piece wing. One
at the end of each wing panel (total of 2), one at the root of each wing
panel (total of 2), one each at the outboard ends of the center section
(total of 2). If you choose to skin the wing root and center section ribs,
then you would be adding the plywood to 4 out of those 6 ribs. As viewed
from the pilot's seat, 2 ribs would have the plywood on the right side (for
the left wing panel root and the right side of the center section), and 2
ribs would have plywood on the left side (for the right wing panel root and
the left side of the center section). If that makes sense... :P
This may be a stupid question, but for clarification: if you decide to skin
the ribs you would omit the gussets from that side, and instead apply 3
large "skins". One from leading edge of the rib to the forward side of the
front spar, one from the rear side of the front spar to the front side of
the rear spar, and finally one from the rear side of the rear spar to the
trailing edge of the rib. If holes need to be cut for cables, etc, you would
do so. Would that be the correct basic procedure?
Ryan
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM, <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
> Thanks Guys, it sounds like I need to make 4 more. One clarification. I
> think I only need the plywood on the two center section and the two inner
> wing panel ribs. Basically the 4 new ones needed because if the 3-piece
> design. Is this correct?
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 |
Rick, send them to me and I will put them on my web page.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Latex status report pictures - 3
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